US nuclear bomb capability has fallen far behind Russia and China

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However, attacks from the Chinese DF-41 and Russian RS-28 ICBMs would both likely cause far more destruction than the B61-13 due to the MIRV warheads hitting multiple targets. For example, either missile has the potential to instantly transform all or most of the U.S. northeast into a nuclear wasteland.

And Russia just pulled out of a major nuclear treaty which some say is pushing us closer to nuclear war


 

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Russia Launches Intercontinental Missile From New Nuclear Submarine; Kremlin Warns Relations with U.S. 'Below Zero'

"Firing a ballistic missile is the final element of state tests, after which a decision will be made to accept the cruiser into the Navy," the defense ministry said in a statement.

Russian sources told Reuters that the Imperator Alexander III is the seventh of the project 955 Borel (Arctic Wind) class nuclear submarines and the fourth of the modernized Borei-A variant.

Borei class missiles include 16 Bulava missiles, and the 40-foot missiles have the capability of going 5,000 miles.

NATO considers the fleet the Dolgoruky class of submarines - named after the Yuri Dolgoruky - the first new generation of Russian nuclear submarines launched since the Cold War.

Russia and the West have been at odds with each other since the country invaded Ukraine last year. The war has continued since, with the United States and allies providing weapons and funding to Ukraine.

NATO countries have made a concerted effort not to get involved in direct fighting with Russian out of fears of a World War III beginning.

Despite avoiding direct conflict with Russia, the United States' view inside the country is unfavorable.

"Relations are at zero - or I would say below zero," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said, according to Reuters. "Putin has repeatedly stated that he is ready for any contacts."
 
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Yes this is what I worry about. That we are alienating Russia instead of trying to find peace. It's like all the roosters are crowing their loudest to be the king of the hen house instead of fighting off the true wolves.

I'm not as worried about Israel and Hamas although that has been a terrible problem for everyone over there.
 
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Yes this is what I worry about. That we are alienating Russia instead of trying to find peace. It's like all the roosters are crowing their loudest to be the king of the hen house instead of fighting off the true wolves.

I'm not as worried about Israel and Hamas although that has been a terrible problem for everyone over there.
The thing about nuclear war is deterrence as in making any such war too painful for either side of a conflict to use nukes.
The articles are saying US is dismantling their nuclear weapons and not building newer more dangerous ones while Russia and China have much more dangerous ones. The deterrence factor is much less than it was, we seem to be barely beyond Hiroshima type nuke capability in comparison. Our hypersonic missile tech is a failure while theirs is working just makes the chasm between us greater still.

Countries like them might consider first strikes against us and our response will be all the less and more of a nuisance to them.
While we would lose our country, they would lose a few cities. Just a few of their missiles with MIRV warheads will turn the entire eastern US into a nuclear waste zone.
 
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Story out now that US acknowledges they have fallen behind on nuclear bomb tech, Military seeks to develop new more powerful bombs

US shooting itself in foot? Nuclear mega-bomb program 'risks escalating Russia threat'​

EXCLUSIVE: America is developing a nuclear weapon 24 times more powerful than the bomb dropped on Hiroshima in 1945.​


The US development of a modernized nuclear arsenal while pushing Russia to move away from its hostile rhetoric could backfire, a former US Army intelligence analyst warned.
The Pentagon confirmed this week it will seek congressional funds and approval to start developing a new model of nuclear bombs – which are expected to be 24 times more powerful than the bomb dropped on Hiroshima in 1945.
The Department of Defense (DoD) insisted the move is part of US efforts to prepare for eventual threats and a show of its commitment to global security.
But the announcement came only days before Vladimir Putin signed a new law which officially withdrew Russia from the 1996 Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty.
The withdrawal comes at a time when the world remains on high alert after Putin and his allies repeatedly threatened to deploy nuclear weapons in the event of Ukraine and its allies threatening his country.

The DoD confirmed the new bombs will replace older models rather than add to American nuclear stocks. However, Kervin Aucoin warned the US must tread carefully to avoid pushing Russia into using nuclear weapons.

He told Daily Express US: "This could definitely complicate diplomatic efforts aimed at de-escalating tensions and preventing nuclear deployments in sensitive regions like Ukraine.

"These advancements can be seen as a dual strategy: strengthening deterrence while engaging in diplomatic efforts to prevent nuclear proliferation and military escalation in conflict zones.

"The overall effectiveness of this approach will depend on various factors, including the success of diplomatic negotiations and the ability to strike a balance between deterrence and nonproliferation objectives."
 
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Thing is though, US is way behind the curve with nuclear weapons tech, and you know it takes time, maybe years to develop things like this that work.
 

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Story out now that US acknowledges they have fallen behind on nuclear bomb tech, Military seeks to develop new more powerful bombs

US shooting itself in foot? Nuclear mega-bomb program 'risks escalating Russia threat'​

EXCLUSIVE: America is developing a nuclear weapon 24 times more powerful than the bomb dropped on Hiroshima in 1945.​


The US development of a modernized nuclear arsenal while pushing Russia to move away from its hostile rhetoric could backfire, a former US Army intelligence analyst warned.
The Pentagon confirmed this week it will seek congressional funds and approval to start developing a new model of nuclear bombs – which are expected to be 24 times more powerful than the bomb dropped on Hiroshima in 1945.
The Department of Defense (DoD) insisted the move is part of US efforts to prepare for eventual threats and a show of its commitment to global security.
But the announcement came only days before Vladimir Putin signed a new law which officially withdrew Russia from the 1996 Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty.
The withdrawal comes at a time when the world remains on high alert after Putin and his allies repeatedly threatened to deploy nuclear weapons in the event of Ukraine and its allies threatening his country.

The DoD confirmed the new bombs will replace older models rather than add to American nuclear stocks. However, Kervin Aucoin warned the US must tread carefully to avoid pushing Russia into using nuclear weapons.

He told Daily Express US: "This could definitely complicate diplomatic efforts aimed at de-escalating tensions and preventing nuclear deployments in sensitive regions like Ukraine.

"These advancements can be seen as a dual strategy: strengthening deterrence while engaging in diplomatic efforts to prevent nuclear proliferation and military escalation in conflict zones.

"The overall effectiveness of this approach will depend on various factors, including the success of diplomatic negotiations and the ability to strike a balance between deterrence and nonproliferation objectives."
Yes I saw that on fox news a few days ago. Not sure why they're developing nuclear bombs like that. Hmmm, well Russia did decide to match the effort on their side. Saw that on the news as well. This whole Ukraine war and the handling of it has turned into a disaster.
 

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Yes I saw that on fox news a few days ago. Not sure why they're developing nuclear bombs like that. Hmmm, well Russia did decide to match the effort on their side. Saw that on the news as well. This whole Ukraine war and the handling of it has turned into a disaster.
Fact is that Joe Biden is a total moron ! well sure he is looking after his Son and clearly his own interest. why is Biden not been exposed for being the most corrupt President in the history of the USA by far. His just like Hitler and Stalin etc, protected by the MSM !

Hey them people in east Ukraine were not allowed to have an open Voting rights in fact, now who was involved in disregarding such peoples Voting rights in the areas that ended up becoming a War Zone ! The Killing and destruction was all worth it ? for who ? well Joe Biden for one ! he is proud of such that he brought on ! but why ? well he is trying to hide and cover up his and Sonny boy's dealings that are as corrupt as one could be.
What about the Labs that Russia blew up ? Did Biden and Co create COVID in Ukraine and set it up against China ? could easy of been done by such in Ukraine and in fact, the most likely to be done, as the Laws regarding such things, it is Ukraine the only place in the world that such is the most free by far to conduct such insanity and get away with it !
So who most likely could of created COVID, Ukraine is in fact ! not one other Nation could get away with such regarding the Laws that all other Nations are bound to in fact !
Ukraine comes out as the number one suspect of cultivating COVID no other Nation comes close to get away with such a thing in fact !

What is wrong with Russia in fact ? Nothing truly, it was set on track to becoming a greater Nation under Putin in fact and everyone knows it was on the up and up from when Putin came on board ! Russia was a garbage dump from the Day that the Communist took over and it was all down hill and the peoples rights were undermined totally by such insanity ! But what did the West world say against such a Evil Political Party, Nothing !
Now what do we hear from when Putin came to power ? but who are they truly who paint him in such a light ? Lefty's ! like Biden in fact and his Co !
Putin has said years ago of such in the USA are heading down the same old rabbit hole as Russia did with Communism that turned Russia into a giant backward S hole garbage dump ! Putin did not want that on the Russian people anymore !
Biden and Co support Communist Party's in Russia and sexually depraved Party's !
All that we see with the Joe Biden's and Co is the workings of undermining of the USA, we have the same here in Australia mouthing off standing over the people demanding that depravity lords it over everyone or else they will use all of their Malice gods against anyone who stands up to them.

Putin is on a roll ! Russia is still set to excel in the future regardless of Joe Biden or the West does in fact, so is China and India and the whole West is going to crash badly down the track because it's so corrupt and stupid beyond belief ! No one could be so stupid ! they can not manage their economy's, No one could be so stupid ! Clearly They just do not care in fact ! We are being set up to fail ! from every angle, morally bankrupt and all !
We do not need a War to fail, when every step we take we tread on a rake !
 

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Nuclear Attack Worst-Case Scenario Would See 90% of Americans Wiped Out​


Yes, we will lose our country. Missile upgrades wont be in place till 2029. Dying a death of acute radiation poisoning is very bad way to go.


As if nuclear strikes on U.S. cities weren't potentially damaging enough, an attack on America's missile silos would kill millions due to acute radiation poisoning in a matter of days and spread radioactive fallout across the country, new modeling suggests.

A study published by Scientific American on Tuesday found that if the strategic launch bases were hit, most of the Midwest would be bathed in a more than lethal dose of radiation, with a worst-case scenario seeing most of the U.S. and Canada becoming uninhabitable.

Researchers at Princeton University's Program on Science and Global Security estimate that in the first four days after the silos were struck, between 340,000 and 4.6 million people would die—though the average death toll would be 1.4 million. They predicted that 300 million people would be at risk of a fatal dose of fallout.

The study comes after the U.S. Air Force said last year that it would be replacing its Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), which have been in operation since the 1970s, with the more modern Sentinel missile from 2029.

The $1.5 trillion plan will see all 400 of the older missiles replaced. Though the range and payload of the Sentinel ICBMs have not been officially released, they are thought to carry an equivalent explosive power of 800 kilotons of TNT and are expected to reach up to 6,000 miles and be capable of striking any target around the globe in 30 minutes.
 
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Malachi 4

The Great Day of God​


God's promise is this world and all the wicked will be ashes under the feet of the righteous, His people whom He justifies in Christ.
This world is going to burn on a Day known as the Day of the Lord.

1 “For behold, the day is coming,
Burning like an oven,
And all the proud, yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble.
And the day which is coming shall burn them up,”
Says the Lord of hosts,
“That will leave them neither root nor branch.
2 But to you who fear My name
The Sun of Righteousness shall arise
With healing in His wings;
And you shall go out
And grow fat like stall-fed calves.
3 You shall trample the wicked,
For they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet
On the day that I do this,
Says the Lord of hosts.
 

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Nuclear Attack Worst-Case Scenario Would See 90% of Americans Wiped Out​


Yes, we will lose our country. Missile upgrades wont be in place till 2029. Dying a death of acute radiation poisoning is very bad way to go.


As if nuclear strikes on U.S. cities weren't potentially damaging enough, an attack on America's missile silos would kill millions due to acute radiation poisoning in a matter of days and spread radioactive fallout across the country, new modeling suggests.

A study published by Scientific American on Tuesday found that if the strategic launch bases were hit, most of the Midwest would be bathed in a more than lethal dose of radiation, with a worst-case scenario seeing most of the U.S. and Canada becoming uninhabitable.

Researchers at Princeton University's Program on Science and Global Security estimate that in the first four days after the silos were struck, between 340,000 and 4.6 million people would die—though the average death toll would be 1.4 million. They predicted that 300 million people would be at risk of a fatal dose of fallout.

The study comes after the U.S. Air Force said last year that it would be replacing its Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), which have been in operation since the 1970s, with the more modern Sentinel missile from 2029.

The $1.5 trillion plan will see all 400 of the older missiles replaced. Though the range and payload of the Sentinel ICBMs have not been officially released, they are thought to carry an equivalent explosive power of 800 kilotons of TNT and are expected to reach up to 6,000 miles and be capable of striking any target around the globe in 30 minutes.
Funny how the Media portrayed Nuclear the threat in the 1960's 70's it was all a huge thing back then, but now it does not be regarded as anything much at all ?
The USA should of hit Russia with such directly before Russia made their own in fact. such were in fact on little bombs back then, to what we now have, but if you ask the majority of people about the place, do you know that this in the 2020's and have that any idea truly what we could be dealing with ? The Blind leading the blind, comes to mind.
Who is controlling the USA ? Joe Biden o_O :eek::oops::rolleyes:
 

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Are you ready?

Matthew 24
21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect's sake those days will be shortened.
 

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Are you ready?

Matthew 24
21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect's sake those days will be shortened.
It's about understanding.
This world is full of deceptions and delusions.
The Devil is in the detail ! but most are lead astray, regarding the workings of the Anti-Christ and his Satanist.
Such does not have to be ? if you all were bright enough to not fall into such a Trap that has been set for you all.
For you all will reap what you have sown ? Fore you all brought it all on ! Why because you did not pick up on Christ Jesus in fact !
So the gutless dupes who sit back and let such happen will all go to Hell in fact !

It's like a man of his own House, who tended for all such family and all with true regard to Christ Jesus first and foremost in his life ? Now if all men were worthy of such all would be good and fine but because most men nowadays a mice or rats with no regards Christ Jesus, well they will reap what they have sown in fact. Clearly they have swallowed the Bate of this world and turned their backs on God !
That's it in a nut shell.
So they who sat back like a mutt will be rewarded as a Mutt ! because they are not worthy of Christ Jesus are they ! for they never knew him ! Most people nowadays are not a Man but a Mouse, because they abide by the cancer of this world, for they are to gutless to challenge the rats !
 

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However, attacks from the Chinese DF-41 and Russian RS-28 ICBMs would both likely cause far more destruction than the B61-13 due to the MIRV warheads hitting multiple targets. For example, either missile has the potential to instantly transform all or most of the U.S. northeast into a nuclear wasteland.

And Russia just pulled out of a major nuclear treaty which some say is pushing us closer to nuclear war


So we can only destroy the world about 20 times over now! I won't worry or lose sleep over that fact.

Just on Ohio class subs we have 2,400, 500kt nuclear warheads! couple that with the minutemen and airborne bombs- we can insure thatr nothing survives on the planet.
 

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So we can only destroy the world about 20 times over now! I won't worry or lose sleep over that fact.

Just on Ohio class subs we have 2,400, 500kt nuclear warheads! couple that with the minutemen and airborne bombs- we can insure thatr nothing survives on the planet.
I think it is more about deterrence factors rather than ability to destroy x times over. Technologies keep on progressing. Other thing is shooting down and blowing up missiles before they fire off their nuclear bombs. Latest thing being Infared lasers. Maybe the other guy gets very good abilities to destroy incoming threats, now they have a big advantage.
 

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I think Hamas are the ones who want to destroy US. Why would China? They own 'our' politicians. lol
Maybe after destroying us, they could have a "build back better" plan to rebuild America in China's image.
I have no doubt Biden will want to do something like that in Gaza, and I'm sure he'll have tens of billions of dollars to make it happen too.
 
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I think it is more about deterrence factors rather than ability to destroy x times over. Technologies keep on progressing. Other thing is shooting down and blowing up missiles before they fire off their nuclear bombs. Latest thing being Infared lasers. Maybe the other guy gets very good abilities to destroy incoming threats, now they have a big advantage.
Well we are the leading country in laser technology for weapons use, so we can shoot down more than they can. also with Patriot, iron dome and other ABM asats we have we can shoot down whole tone. and does itt really matter if we land 200 or 4000 500kt warheads on Russia or chins?