Warning about vaccines from doctors and scientists

[Jim B]

Obey “unbiblical” ? No.
Obey “unConstitutional” Laws? No.

Acts 5:
[29] Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

The purpose of the US Constitution is to Limit the Power of the Government, NOT the People.

An UnConstitutional Law, is no Law at all.
Federalist Papers, Created and Established BY America Founders;
Federalist Essay #78 9th paragraph.
Federalist Essay # 45 9th paragraph.

And...NO ONE is claiming the US Government “created” an “UNConstitutional” Law regarding “Forcing of human experiments called Covid Vaccines”....
The “Forcing” was implemented by “Verbal Spoken Mandate”.....
NOT by a Congressional ACT of “Congress Creating a Legislative Law”.

There “IS” a Master / Servant relationship Biblically and Secularly...
If you do not KNOW what constitutes/establishes that Relationship and it’s LIMITATIONS, ‘YOU” can choose to “DO” what any man tells you to “DO”.

Same as I can “choose” to “IGNORE” what any man tells me to “DO”.

Yes, very familiar, God has “Established” every individual with Freewill “TO DO what they choose”.

Biden IS NOT in any way, shape, or form... My Master.

Since you describe yourself as living in the United States and Joe Biden is the President of the United States, he is your master. If you violate Federal law you will find out the hard way that he is the now the head of the executive branch and therefore legally your master.

Romans 13:1-4, " Let every person be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those authorities that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists authority resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct but to bad. Do you wish to have no fear of the authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive its approval, for it is God’s agent for your good. But if you do what is wrong, you should be afraid, for the authority[a] does not bear the sword in vain! It is the agent of God to execute wrath on the wrongdoer."

 

[dhh712]

Since you describe yourself as living in the United States and Joe Biden is the President of the United States, he is your master. If you violate Federal law you will find out the hard way that he is the now the head of the executive branch and therefore legally your master.

Romans 13:1-4, " Let every person be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those authorities that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists authority resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct but to bad. Do you wish to have no fear of the authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive its approval, for it is God’s agent for your good. But if you do what is wrong, you should be afraid, for the authority[a] does not bear the sword in vain! It is the agent of God to execute wrath on the wrongdoer."

Yeah, it doesn't matter if the law is "unconstitutional" or not--we as citizens of a country have to--are commanded by God--to obey it and pray for those in power. The apostles writing by the guidance of the Holy Spirit wrote these verses admonishing us to obey governing authorities at the time when Nero was in power--a far, far more despicable tyrant than Biden or most likely any other ruling figure the United States, at least probably in our lifetimes, will ever know.

Laws which go against God's laws God commands us not to obey as we are citizens of His kingdom first and are strangers here in this land. So, yes, those Christians who were living under Hitler's law should not have obeyed many of his laws, I would imagine (especially those ordering the deaths of other people. They should have been willing to die instead of commit those acts; of course, much easier said than done. I can only pray God will give me the grace to stand upon His word if I am ever to come into a similar situation).

 

[Jack]

Luke 4
5 Then the devil, taking Him up on a high mountain, showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
6 And the devil said to Him, "All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish.

Perhaps that's why governments are filled with filthy rich, lying thieves?

IOW, vote for the Devil's choice.

 

[dhh712]

Luke 4
5 Then the devil, taking Him up on a high mountain, showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
6 And the devil said to Him, "All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish.

Perhaps that's why governments are filled with filthy rich, lying thieves?

Of course! The Devil makes them believe that having everything is this world is all there is--the more you have, the better life is. Jesus says however, Those who love their life will lose it but whoever hates his life will have eternal life (John 12:25) (what do you know--a good verse for today, it being 12/25!).

 

[Taken]

Of course! The Devil makes them believe that having everything is this world is all there is--the more you have, the better life is. Jesus says however, Those who love their life will lose it but whoever hates his life will have eternal life (John 12:25) (what do you know--a good verse for today, it being 12/25!).

Seriously....??
Are you STILL as Jesus said...

Matt 15:
[16] And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding?

During the millennial reign.......THERE IS NO PRESENCE OF the “DEVIL” or other “EVIL” spirits!

 

[Taken]

Problem: Many of the "experts" are simply puppets of LYING politicians, and will soon be promoting the Mark of the Beast!

Mans marks, is the number of man...
They already are promoting “mans mark”... tats, implants, jabs with harmful concoctions, food dead in nutrients, 24-7 jabbering propaganda, filthy immoral crap they call art.....
Bottom line; if it enters into the body, by taste, eyes, ears, flesh, smell...it will effect the Body.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Well I did not advocate obeying without question. But if a govt. passes a law that is not unbiblical we as followers of Jesus are duty bound to obey.

while as humans we obey the laws of the lands God has placed us in, our law first and foremost is SCripture, and not a const9ituional republic or socialist democracy etc.

Remember God allowed Hitler to rule to serve His purposes.

Remember how God ? allowed Hitler to rule to serve his purposes ?

No !
I see that this was a human creation totally inspired by the Talmud. the workings of Man and such gods in fact.
Not to mention most people did and have not learnt a lesson at all from or of the likes of Hitler but have jumped right into bed with the likes of him, Joe Biden for one is a cunning conniving devil.
Look at all of the Socialist and Communist love Joe Biden and are totally blinded to such dominating idiots as Hitler and Joe Biden.
You can not sway such people because they are brainwashed.

When people say regarding the holocaust in WW2 they are giving praise to the Talmud gods for their burnt offering !
No worthy Christian calls such a Holocaust because we do not give accent to any burnt offerings, what did Moses say about the burnt offerings ? who were they offered up to ? Satan ?
Did Jesus look up to burnt offerings ?
What was it that the Talmud so called Jews and so called Zionist offering up ! too who ? It was all their creation in fact ! The stupid Germans and all fell for it all. and nowadays the majority do not know the difference between a burnt offering (Holocaust) and Genocide !
If one is a Christian you call such a Genocide! but if one is of Satan one would call such a Holocaust! Why Holocaust well it's because they are proud of their handy work in fact ! and they claim it their gods work in fact. They have offered the 6 million up to their gods in fact !

Just as this Mob of demonic trash that they have offered up Children to sacrifice, abortion on demand ! they demand child exploitation bastardisation of who and what they are, has been robbed from them and the parents have lost their rights to govern their own children in fact ! Well that Socialism for you where the lowest common denominator is held up above all, where you are all equal nothings.

 

[dad]

It's absurd that people post medical advice on forums such as this, adding the opinions of "experts" to bolster their arguments. I follow the advice of my personal physician, augmented by those who have specialized knowledge and training. I will never accept the opinions of biased people who have something to prove without the requisite credentials.

Is it medical advice to take so called medical advice with due diligence and suspicion, especially when doctors have different medical advice? Some people seem to think that all medical experts agree. No.

 

[Jim B]

Mans marks, is the number of man...
They already are promoting “mans mark”... tats, implants, jabs with harmful concoctions, food dead in nutrients, 24-7 jabbering propaganda, filthy immoral crap they call art.....
Bottom line; if it enters into the body, by taste, eyes, ears, flesh, smell...it will effect the Body.

Merry Christmas to you too! I'm truly sorry that life is so difficult for you!

 

[Jim B]

Is it medical advice to take so called medical advice with due diligence and suspicion, especially when doctors have different medical advice? Some people seem to think that all medical experts agree. No.

You have to trust someone. I trust my primary care physician, not a bunch of people on the internet spouting their favorite propaganda sources.

 

[dad]

You have to trust someone. I trust my primary care physician, not a bunch of people on the internet spouting their favorite propaganda sources.

Congrats on your blind faith. Some medical professionals that warn against the shots have more experience in these matters than family doctors or their patients with some grudge against modern means of communication.

 

[Jim B]

Congrats on your blind faith. Some medical professionals that warn against the shots have more experience in these matters than family doctors or their patients with some grudge against modern means of communication.

Congrats on your blind faith. Some medical professionals that warn against the shots have less experience in these matters than family doctors. Writing that patients have "some grudge against modern means of communication" is simply irrational.

 

[dad]

Congrats on your blind faith. Some medical professionals that warn against the shots have less experience in these matters than family doctors. Writing that patients have "some grudge against modern means of communication" is simply irrational.

No. I just have had enough of people acting as if they made a superior decision and anyone who looks for a second opinion is unintelligent or dishonest etc.

 

[Jim B]

No. I just have had enough of people acting as if they made a superior decision and anyone who looks for a second opinion is unintelligent or dishonest etc.

I also have had enough of people acting as if they made a superior decision and anyone who looks for a second opinion is unintelligent or dishonest etc.

 

[dad]

I also have had enough of people acting as if they made a superior decision and anyone who looks for a second opinion is unintelligent or dishonest etc.

No, but we can make them think twice about trying to offer their blind faith as superior information and morals.

 

[Peterlag]

Congrats on your blind faith. Some medical professionals that warn against the shots have more experience in these matters than family doctors or their patients with some grudge against modern means of communication.

You got that right. I would not say some but many professionals that warn against the shots have a lot more experience than the family Doc's. And they have been silenced from the federal government.

 

[dad]

You got that right. I would not say some but many professionals that warn against the shots have a lot more experience than the family Doc's. And they have been silenced from the federal government.

Face it there are experts on both sides. Like lawyers, you can hire one that says what you like. It only remains to believe who we like. The problem on the vaccine pushers side is not that they are not also experts. Ask yourself this, how many of the leaders like Trudeau or Biden who push vaccine also push child sex changes? Why would we need anything more?

Man and his medical system has gotten so depraved and sinister and dangerous that it behooves us to use the system sparingly and with real caution. The days of blind trust and ra ra ra cheerleading for any and everything the medical system may do gone forever.

 

[Peterlag]

Face it there are experts on both sides. Like lawyers, you can hire one that says what you like. It only remains to believe who we like. The problem on the vaccine pushers side is not that they are not also experts. Ask yourself this, how many of the leaders like Trudeau or Biden who push vaccine also push child sex changes? Why would we need anything more?

Man and his medical system has gotten so depraved and sinister and dangerous that it behooves us to use the system sparingly and with real caution. The days of blind trust and ra ra ra cheerleading for any and everything the medical system may do gone forever.

I'm not an expert, but I'm not a nobody either. Here's a clip from my very own website...

We can apply "active immunity" in addition to our body's natural immunity through procedures like vaccinations, which stimulate an immune response to a specific pathogen in the vaccine. Like the natural response, vaccination helps the body get ready for that pathogen in case it's attacked again. It's the strength of our immune response, whether natural or active, that determines whether one will survive an infection or succumb to it. However, we can only rely on the response of our natural immune system when we are exposed to viruses or bacteria that have mutated or that our bodies have never seen before.

The problem with applying active immunity through procedures like vaccination is we cannot be certain we have the right vaccination for the anticipated viral attack. Even if we think we know what the virus is on any given day may not help us if it has mutated before it gets to us. Therefore, the only sure way of protecting ourselves is to ensure that our immune system is as strong and healthy as possible. Our body can better defend itself from pathogens when all of its parts are acting in a natural balance, and therefore working in a partnership with one another. Keeping our body in balance through exercise along with a nutritious diet and proper supplementation with products that work with the body to support and maintain a balanced immune system will go a long way towards dealing with viruses and other infections.

 

[Jim B]

No, but we can make them think twice about trying to offer their blind faith as superior information and morals.

Does that apply to yourself? After all, you made this judgmental statement earlier -- post #474.

 

[dad]

I'm not an expert, but I'm not a nobody either. Here's a clip from my very own website...

We can apply "active immunity" in addition to our body's natural immunity through procedures like vaccinations, which stimulate an immune response to a specific pathogen in the vaccine. Like the natural response, vaccination helps the body get ready for that pathogen in case it's attacked again. It's the strength of our immune response, whether natural or active, that determines whether one will survive an infection or succumb to it. However, we can only rely on the response of our natural immune system when we are exposed to viruses or bacteria that have mutated or that our bodies have never seen before.

The problem with applying active immunity through procedures like vaccination is we cannot be certain we have the right vaccination for the anticipated viral attack. Even if we think we know what the virus is on any given day may not help us if it has mutated before it gets to us. Therefore, the only sure way of protecting ourselves is to ensure that our immune system is as strong and healthy as possible. Our body can better defend itself from pathogens when all of its parts are acting in a natural balance, and therefore working in a partnership with one another. Keeping our body in balance through exercise along with a nutritious diet and proper supplementation with products that work with the body to support and maintain a balanced immune system will go a long way towards dealing with viruses and other infections.

Some people say they should not even call it a vaccine. If some experimental shot causes the body to attack what it should not or some such, that is not good. There are experts who warn that the covid vaccines might be dangerous for some. You trust it is not so all you like. You do not speak for me.