Was judas Iscariot used by Satan ??

[Hiddenthings]

I've long found it amusing how Christians believe God's realm is full of darkness, sin and confusion.

The ignorance intensifies...

 

[VictoryinJesus]

@Hidden In Him
Which of these two have You chosen?
Luke 17:32-36 Remember Lot's wife. [33] Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it. [34] I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. [35] Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. [36] Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

What does the above mean to you?
which of these two has He chosen? The one taken or the one left?

 

[Hiddenthings]

@Hidden In Him
Which of these two have You chosen?
Luke 17:32-36 Remember Lot's wife. [33] Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it. [34] I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. [35] Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. [36] Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

What does the above mean to you?
which of these two has He chosen? The one taken or the one left?

An allusion!

A man purchases his lower life at the price of the higher life - he must be a loser in the bargain

The anomaly!

Death to this life gives birth to a future life

Both Noah and Lot were ‘taken’ and the others ‘left’

 

[amigo de christo]

I've long found it amusing how Christians believe God's realm is full of darkness, sin and confusion.

The ignorance intensifies...

It has intensified greatly and specially in these last hours .
Cause i sure seem to see many running around chasing hundred dollah bills , holding rainbows
walking in darkness sin and confusion and beleiving THIS IS actaully GOD and HIS LOVE .
When it clearly aint .
It is a love that is of the world that has come in to make rebellers of men
rebellers against that which is pure and holy , true and truth .
And to establish a lie that it calls love and considers to be loving and even cliams be of GOD . WHEN it clearly aint .
so yes many sure do seem to think this realm they think is of GOD
that is so tolerant of sins but VERY INTOLERANT against the TRUTH that would dare to expose that sin .

 

[Scott Downey]

It has intensified greatly and specially in these last hours .
Cause i sure seem to see many running around chasing hundred dollah bills , holding rainbows
walking in darkness sin and confusion and beleiving THIS IS actaully GOD and HIS LOVE .
When it clearly aint .
It is a love that is of the world that has come in to make rebellers of men
rebellers against that which is pure and holy , true and truth .
And to establish a lie that it calls love and considers to be loving and even cliams be of GOD . WHEN it clearly aint .
so yes many sure do seem to think this realm they think is of GOD
that is so tolerant of sins but VERY INTOLERANT against the TRUTH that would dare to expose that sin .

The Sadducees also denied a spirit of any kind, a resurrection, an afterlife.

 

[Scott Downey]

Satan did not just enter Judas on a whim. Judas was not a follower of Christ, not really a believer.

Read what John 6 says about the betrayer. People God did not GRANT to come to Christ, will not follow Christ or have eternal life.

59 These things He said in the synagogue as He taught in Capernaum.

Many Disciples Turn Away​

60 Therefore many of His disciples, when they heard this, said, “This is a [m]hard saying; who can understand it?”

61 When Jesus knew in Himself that His disciples [n]complained about this, He said to them, “Does this [o]offend you? 62 What then if you should see the Son of Man ascend where He was before? 63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. 64 But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him. 65 And He said, “Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.”

66 From that time many of His disciples went [p]back and walked with Him no more. 67 Then Jesus said to the twelve, “Do you also want to go away?”

68 But Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. 69 Also we have come to believe and know that You are the [q]Christ, the Son of the living God.”

70 Jesus answered them, “Did I not choose you, the twelve, and one of you is a devil?” 71 He spoke of Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon, for it was he who would betray Him, being one of the twelve.

 

[Scott Downey]

Acts 23​

1 Then Paul, looking earnestly at the council, said, “Men and brethren, I have lived in all good conscience before God until this day.” 2 And the high priest Ananias commanded those who stood by him to strike him on the mouth. 3 Then Paul said to him, “God will strike you, you whitewashed wall! For you sit to judge me according to the law, and do you command me to be struck contrary to the law?”
4 And those who stood by said, “Do you revile God’s high priest?”
5 Then Paul said, “I did not know, brethren, that he was the high priest; for it is written, ‘You shall not speak evil of a ruler of your people.’ ”
6 But when Paul perceived that one part were Sadducees and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, “Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee; concerning the hope and resurrection of the dead I am being judged!”
7 And when he had said this, a dissension arose between the Pharisees and the Sadducees; and the assembly was divided.

8 For Sadducees say that there is no resurrection—and no angel or spirit; but the Pharisees confess both. 9 Then there arose a loud outcry. And the scribes of the Pharisees’ party arose and protested, saying, “We find no evil in this man; [a]but if a spirit or an angel has spoken to him, let us not fight against God.”

10 Now when there arose a great dissension, the commander, fearing lest Paul might be pulled to pieces by them, commanded the soldiers to go down

 

[Hiddenthings]

Satan did not just enter Judas on a whim. Judas was not a follower of Christ, not really a believer.

Read what John 6 says about the betrayer. People God did not GRANT to come to Christ, will not follow Christ or have eternal life.

59 These things He said in the synagogue as He taught in Capernaum.

Many Disciples Turn Away​

60 Therefore many of His disciples, when they heard this, said, “This is a [m]hard saying; who can understand it?”

61 When Jesus knew in Himself that His disciples [n]complained about this, He said to them, “Does this [o]offend you? 62 What then if you should see the Son of Man ascend where He was before? 63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. 64 But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him. 65 And He said, “Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.”

66 From that time many of His disciples went [p]back and walked with Him no more. 67 Then Jesus said to the twelve, “Do you also want to go away?”

68 But Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. 69 Also we have come to believe and know that You are the [q]Christ, the Son of the living God.”

70 Jesus answered them, “Did I not choose you, the twelve, and one of you is a devil?” 71 He spoke of Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon, for it was he who would betray Him, being one of the twelve.

If you cannot discern the use of the word Satan (adversary) in relation to Judas' sin, then you will never know it's true meaning.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Paul speaks of a reprobate mind one which is bent on doing evil...that mind will not be entered!

Agree yet that is why
Ezekiel 36:26-27 And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. [27] And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to obey my rules.

Which is the reprobate mind one? What is the one when Paul told them “now I tell you to put out the evil one?”…put all these things without.

Concerning “Paul speaks of a reprobate mind one which is bent on doing evil...that mind will not be entered!” Yet God can penetrate through hard ground… the ground may need to be broken up and prepared first!
I do agree concerning the reprobate mind can’t be entered but then I don’t agree at the same time. I agree in respect to it’s not about keeping or holding into the reprobate mind and God dwells, or enters into the reprobate mind. Yet when Paul spoke to the Corinthians who called Paul and those with Paul reprobates. Paul spoke of their not knowing they(where Christ speaks) are not reprobates, how they are not as those who fail. Personally I think Paul is revealing it’s their mind calling them reprobates which fails. Yet Paul has hope and trust “you will see”. Even though they are the ones who have the reprobate mind which fails, Paul trust the Lord can enter in and sight be given to those who don’t yet see. What they don’t see is Christ lives in Paul, Christ speaking in Paul, Christ in Paul which they call weak and reprobate. It’s not Paul that they hate. Jesus Christ spoke of the same in go make friends with the unrighteousness of mammon, so that when it fails…the good news is at the end of what Jesus said but we hear it turned into the bad news.

Also concerning “that mind won’t be entered”
We have to acknowledge a double minded man is unstable in all his ways. Why? For the carnal mind wars against the mind of Christ? Now consider what Paul spoke of when they gloried in the one who had his fathers wife. How Paul told them to put out “the evil one” among them but before they became even more high minded from patting themselves on their backs over the failure among them…Paul spells out their own double minded ways. Listing those things that are put out. So what is Paul instructing needs to be put out? A brother only? Or the tempter among them all?

Do we fully recognize what was happening by their glorying in the one who had his fathers wife? Habakkuk 2:15-16 Woe unto him that gives his neighbour drink, that puts your bottle to him, and makes him drunken also, that you may look on their nakedness! [16] You are filled with shame for glory: drink you also, and let your foreskin be uncovered: the cup of the LORD'S right hand shall be turned unto you, and shameful spewing shall be on thy glory.

This happens often. It’s maybe why there is the saying ‘misery loves company’.

The above from Habakkuk is spiritual. The drunkenness so that your neighbor is as those in the night 1 Thessalonians 5:4-7 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. [5] You are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. [6] Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. [7] For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.

What’s the point? “You are filled with shame for glory.”

“Drink you also, and let your foreskin be uncovered.”
Does that mean go cut the foreskin off your pee pee? I do think this is regarding what you said about the veil (Covering) still remains over the heart and mind …if the evil one is the ways and thought of the reprobate mind it is God whose work is the circumcision made without hands, the circumcision made with our hands where the two are mind, the evil one is done away with. It’s not the reprobate mind that is sometimes good and teachable…it’s God who is long-suffering to endure the shame and suffering for that which is not yet seen. What did Paul see in the Corinthians that was not yet seen? Paul said “I trust you will see” ? For me that which is not yet seen goes from a fable to …hope and trust in that which is not yet seen. Like with my momma. I’m not as one without hope. But have hope in that which is unseen. That is what fills me with joy of expectation, and helps me endure.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

if the evil one is the ways and thought of the reprobate mind it is God whose work is the circumcision made without hands, the circumcision made with our hands where the two are mind, the evil one is done away with. It’s not the reprobate mind that is sometimes good and teachable…

Correction. I meant to write if the evil one is the ways and thoughts of the reprobate mind…who can not be in subjection to God…It is God whose work is (when the time comes) the circumcision made without hands. Only God knows the time. The circumcision made without hands where the two minds are separated, one kept and the other done away with. It’s not the reprobate mind that is sometimes good and teachable for the reprobate mind can not be taught of God. It fails. The severity of God is He will hand us over unto the reprobate mind so that when that rebate mind is destroyed, the spirit may be saved.
Love Proverbs 20:11-13 Even a child is known by his doings, whether his work be pure, and whether it be right. [12] The hearing ear, and the seeing eye, the LORD has made even both of them. [13] Love not sleep, lest thou come to poverty; open your eyes, and you shall be satisfied with bread.
We say that speaks of sleeping too much at night. There is something deeper. Even with the virgins “wake up you who sleep, and Christ will give you Light” and
1 Corinthians 11:28-30 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. [29] For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. [30] For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
Why not when we give to our neighbors to glory in the flesh, so they also are filled with drunkenness and sleep as those who sleep in the night.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

An allusion!

A man purchases his lower life at the price of the higher life - he must be a loser in the bargain

The anomaly!

Death to this life gives birth to a future life

Both Noah and Lot were ‘taken’ and the others ‘left’

I could go all kinds of sideways. Don’t get me started on Noah’s ark. 1 John 3:17 But whoso has this world's good, and sees his brother have need, and shuts up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwells the love of God in him?

It’s a good question? How did the love of God dwell in Noah’s ark? For if Noah’s Ark had been perfect, there would have been no need for the Ark of Christ.

 

[Hiddenthings]

Agree yet that is why
Ezekiel 36:26-27 And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. [27] And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to obey my rules.

Which is the reprobate mind one? What is the one when Paul told them “now I tell you to put out the evil one?”…put all those things without.

Concerning “Paul speaks of a reprobate mind one which is bent on doing evil...that mind will not be entered!” Yet god can penetrate through hard ground…even though the ground may need to be broken up and prepared first!

No Victory - you are returning to God forcing His Will and as I have said, He does not do this. To "till" the ground of the mind is to be a fellow-worker with the Lord - there is no other way.

Also concerning “that mind won’t be entered”
We have to acknowledge a double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

Correct

Why? For the carnal mind wars against the mind of Christ?

Agree

Now consider what Paul spoke of when they gloried in the one who had his fathers wife. How Paul told them to put out “the evil one” among them but before they became even more high minded from patting themselves on their backs over the failure among them…Paul spells out their own double minded ways. Listing those things that are put out. So what is Paul instructing needs to be put out? A brother only? Or the tempter among them all?

Do we fully recognize what was happening by their glorying in the one who had his fathers wife? Habakkuk 2:15-16 Woe unto him that gives his neighbour drink, that puts your bottle to him, and makes him drunken also, that you may look on their nakedness! [16] You are filled with shame for glory: drink you also, and let your foreskin be uncovered: the cup of the LORD'S right hand shall be turned unto you, and shameful spewing shall be on thy glory.

This happens often. It’s maybe why there is the saying ‘misery loves company’.

The above from Habakkuk is spiritual. The drunkenness so that your neighbor is as those in the night 1 Thessalonians 5:4-7 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. [5] You are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. [6] Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. [7] For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.

What’s the point? “You are filled with shame for glory.”

“Drink you also, and let your foreskin be uncovered.”
Does that mean go cut the foreskin off your pee pee? I do think this is regarding what you said about the veil (Covering) still remains over the heart and mind …if the evil one is the ways and thought of the reprobate mind it is God whose work is the circumcision made without hands, the circumcision made with our hands where the two are mind, the evil one is done away with. It’s not the reprobate mind that is sometimes good and teachable…it’s God who is long-suffering to endure the shame and suffering for that which is not yet seen. What did Paul see in the Corinthians that was not yet seen? Paul said “I trust you will see” ? For me that which is not yet seen goes from a fable to …hope and trust in that which is not yet seen. Like with my momma. I’m not as one without hope. But have hope in that which is unseen. That is what fills me with joy of expectation, and helps me endure.

Titus 1:16 "They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate"

You are speaking to a mind that is corrupt and, though unfit or useless in itself, can still be used by God in whatever way He chooses, whether for shame or honor.

I have shared with people in this forum clear, concise teachings about the future work of Christ and the Saints concerning Israel after the flesh. God will indeed regraft them back into His olive tree by writing the New Covenant on their hearts.

A mind that rejects the countless unfulfilled prophecies in the Bible is a reprobate mind, as it is closed off to the Word of God and only seeks the words of men. The Pharisees and Sadducees were part of this group. Christ himself said, "You cannot hear My Father's Word"

2 Corinthians 13:5 states, “Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves... except ye be reprobates?”

When examining ourselves, it’s important to remember not to take a verse out of its context. A verse without its surrounding context can easily become a pretext for false teaching. Paul is urging the Corinthians to examine themselves, to test whether Christ is truly in them. He didn’t say, “examine me” when the Corinthians questioned his apostleship and the proof of Christ speaking through him (v. 3). We cannot truly know another person’s heart; however, in our human nature, we often find ourselves examining others’ spiritual lives while neglecting our own, and this comes at a great cost.

Here are a few questions I ask myself. This list is far from exhaustive, and you might have your own, but it’s a good place to start:

1. Do I believe in Yahweh and the Bible, but fail to obey Yahweh or change my behavior as the Bible teaches?
2. Am I just a “pew sitter,” attending the Memorial Service every First Day of the Week, but living no differently once it’s over?
3. Do I open my Bible daily but embrace false teachings because I haven’t taken the time to seriously study and pray over what I read?
4. Do I claim to be born again, but fail to follow Yahweh or obey His commands, as taught by Jesus?
5. Do I profess belief in the Bible and its true interpretation, yet fail to show evidence that I’m truly born again in the way Jesus described?
6. I desire to be obedient to Yahweh’s commands, but do my actions reflect this desire as Jesus described in his teachings?
7. Do I have a close, personal relationship with Yahweh through Jesus, and do I submit to his guidance in every area of my life?

Truly born-again believers strive to live in submission to Yahweh’s guidance. They have a real relationship with the Father, and this is reflected in their practice of His commands. There is a noticeable difference in their lives: their words and actions align with their profession. Christ pointed out that the path to salvation is narrow, and few find it, because only a few live according to the narrow way (Matt. 7:13-14; 22:14). Simply knowing the Bible but not obeying it with our hearts will not lead to acceptance with Christ. What Christ seeks is not just right doctrine, but also sound practice (Ezekiel 33:31; 2 Tim. 3:5; Titus 1:16).

To be a disciple of Christ, we must be learners. A disciple was not only a pupil, but an adherent; hence they are spoken of as imitators of their teacher” (John 8:31; 15:8). We must repent and be converted (Luke 13:3-5; Acts 3:19; 11:18; 20:21; 2 Cor. 7:9-10). We must be learners, striving to adhere to and imitate our Master, these are essential qualifications to being his disciples.

May we be brutally honest with ourselves in self-examination, so that we are not “reprobates,” which means “not standing the test, rejected”. Our salvation depends on this (Psalm 139:23-24).

"Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts. And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting."

 

[Hiddenthings]

I could go all kinds of sideways. Don’t get me started on Noah’s ark. 1 John 3:17 But whoso has this world's good, and sees his brother have need, and shuts up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwells the love of God in him?

It’s a good question? How did the love of God dwell in Noah’s ark? For if Noah’s Ark had been perfect, there would have been no need for the Ark of Christ.

Yes, a good question

 

[Behold]

It’s a good question? How did the love of God dwell in Noah’s ark? For if Noah’s Ark had been perfect, there would have been no need for the Ark of Christ.

Sin was already in the world, before Noah's Ark was built.
How do you know?
Its becasue the entire would of Humans who were on the outside of Noah's Ark, were being Judged for theirs.
And God didn't miss even one.

Same as you find in Gen 19, with the Homosexuals - Perverts......being burned into black ash that you can see for yourself if you come to Israel and go to that exact place.
Its not a MYTH.. or an Allegory........and its not symbolic.
Its black ash.....where God Judged Perverted Sexuality, to DEATH.

Gay Pride Parade anyone?

Not a good idea to support it or be one of those.

Now......The Cross is where Jesus is judged for ALL our Sin., so that we will never be found judged in Eternity, if we are born again when we die.
And Being Born Again.... is not talking about being Water Baptised and Religious and trying to be like Christ.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Paul is urging the Corinthians to examine themselves, to test whether Christ is truly in them. He didn’t say, “examine me” when the Corinthians questioned his apostleship and the proof of Christ speaking through him

I have my grandchildren today. They are still sleeping but will wake up soon. I’ll have to revisit and read slower all you posted later.

You said “Paul is urging the Corinthians to examine themselves, to test whether Christ is truly in them. He didn’t say, “examine me” when the Corinthians questioned his apostleship and the proof of Christ speaking through him”

It’s the same thing. You will know them by their fruit? I never said Paul told them to examine him. It may come off as sounding that way. They are ALREADY examine Paul stick on his being reprobate. Paul is urging them to examine the actions not the words. He points out their actions towards their brother. That to me is Paul asking them to examine if they are the reprobates while they are fully convinced it’s not them who are reprobate in accusing their brother. Who is the accuser of the brethren? He is telling them to examine themselves. Good grief. Paul (their wanting proof Christ speaks in Paul) is telling them to examine whether they be in the faith. Paul is the one trusting and hoping in that they don’t yet see, yet Paul is hoping and trusting and yes praying “this we pray” for their being made complete and perfect in Christ. That is hope and faith in Christ that they be made whole in Christ. Paul is One(the Life I know Live, I Live in Christ) in whom Christ endures the hard ground …which hard ground is refusing the seed, their hard hearts. A hard heart, is that stony ground. The fowls that come and gobble up the seed I agree is men steal as a thief, as robbers (steal no more) are those devourers. It is them who Paul is urging James 2:18-20 But someone will say, "You have faith and I have works." Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. [19] You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe-and shudder! [20] Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless?

How much more does Paul have to reveal unto them hope and trust in (Christ) that which is not (yet) seen by them. Saying I trust it will be soon be in covered and you will see? When the blinders are removed and we see face to face what is unseen.

3). We cannot truly know another person’s heart; however, in our human nature, we often find ourselves examining others’ spiritual lives while neglecting our own, and this comes at a great cost.

Concerning Judas…we have yet to speak of Judas throwing the money down into the temple confessing “I have sinned against innocent blood.” and the Pharisees response is “what’s that got to do with us?” Yet I’ve read and heard countless judgments saying Judas didn’t mean it, his heart was gloating or ugly or manipulative…too late he says “I have sinned against innocent blood.” talk about judging the heart. If someone walked into any church and returned the money they received for murder confessing “I have sinned against innocent blood” and the church responds, “what’s that got to do with us?” That is a good question. “What’s that got to do with us Pharisees?” Had you known the peace given unto you, but now it is hidden from you ol’ righteous man.

 

[Hiddenthings]

Concerning Judas…we have yet to speak of Judas throwing the money down into the temple confessing “I have sinned against innocent blood.” and the Pharisees response is “what’s that got to do with us?” Yet I’ve read and heard countless judgments saying Judas didn’t mean it, his heart was gloating or ugly or manipulative…too late he says “I have sinned against innocent blood.” talk about judging the heart. If someone walked into any church and returned the money they received for murder confessing “I have sinned against innocent blood” and the church responds, “what’s that got to do with us?” That is a good question. “What’s that got to do with us Pharisees?” Had you known the peace given unto you, but now it is hidden from you ol’ righteous man.

Matthew 27:3 "Saw that he was condemned"

Judas’s motive was driven by personal gain. He failed to fully comprehend the consequences of his betrayal, never anticipating that the religious leaders would go to such extreme lengths.

"Repented" This is not the typical term for "godly repentance." The Greek word here is metamellomai, which means a change of feeling or regret, in contrast to metanoeo (as seen in Acts 2:38), which refers to a genuine change of heart and purpose. The difference is highlighted in 2 Corinthians 7:8 (metamellomai = regret) and 2 Corinthians 7:9-10 (metanoeo = repentance).

There is no case for Judas, Victory, I've looked.

Self-condemnation is the worst kind...no room for redemption - Cain did it after killing his brother...it's blasphemy against the Holy Spirit to not believe in the Grace and Mercy of God.

Self-condemnation and self-termination are why it states in Psalm 109:8 – “Let his days be few; and let another take his office.”

 

[Hiddenthings]

Notice in all the account of Judas there is no mention of a supernatural being moving Judas to do these things - all the text only ever speak to his sin.

 

[Hiddenthings]

Wouldn't you expect at least something said in the Acts record about this supernatural creature which possessed Judas?

Not one word!

 

[Hiddenthings]

Acts 5:3 – “But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?”

When Peter confronted Ananias with the question, "Why hath Satan filled thy heart...?" he fully understood the nature of "the satan." Peter's mind would have immediately recalled the words of his Master, Jesus: "Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men" (Matthew 16:23).

That which is of God aligns with the Truth, while the things "of men" are rooted in the flesh and thus stand opposed to God’s will. Peter, having experienced the humbling rebuke from Jesus, now grasped that "the Satan" represents the carnal mind—the mindset of the flesh, which constantly opposes the things of the Spirit. He used this understanding when addressing Ananias: “Why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart?” (Acts 5:4).

The flesh, being the greatest subverter of Truth, had strongly influenced Ananias and Sapphira in their deceit. They had deluded themselves into thinking they could deceive Yahweh. But this line of reasoning, rooted in self-deception, would always be futile. For any individual, attempting to trick God is a pointless exercise.

@David Lamb how did you go with the John 8 study?
Can you see the same truth here in Acts 5?

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Matthew 27:3 "Saw that he was condemned"

At least Judas recognized he was condemned.
2 Corinthians 12:21 And lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and that I shall bewail many which have sinned already, and have not repented of the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness which they have committed.

But see…with all due respect next you are going to define which “and Judas repented” it was. As if you know for certain which repented it was. You assume it was worldly sorrow, and not Godly sorrow. Why…because he went out and hung himself? Or did Judas fall headlong and his bowels gushed out? Who said it was his spleen? I’m being serious. Have I missed the verse the says spleen?

Forget Judas recognized he had sinned against innocent blood. 1 Corinthians 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Spirit.
How did Judas recognize he has sinned against innocent blood?

I’m not saying for certain Judas isn’t what you say. a lost cause. Maybe you are right. But I don’t see how anyone can be certain. I can think of tons of verses which at least cause me to not assume too quickly.

Judas’s motive was driven by personal gain

I’m not suggesting the motive was not driven by personal gain. Of course it was. We are liars if we say, we haven’t all gone after personal gain.

"Repented" This is not the typical term for "godly repentance." The Greek word here is metamellomai, which means a change of feeling or regret, in contrast to metanoeo (as seen in Acts 2:38), which refers to a genuine change of heart and purpose. The difference is highlighted in 2 Corinthians 7:8 (metamellomai = regret) and 2 Corinthians 7:9-10 (metanoeo = repentance).

Okay then Judas repentance was his loss of his position. His repentance wasn’t that he sinned against innocent blood.

There is no case for Judas, Victory, I've looked.

Ok. You seem resolved now and done looking. It won’t get me anywhere to prove Judas as forgiven.

I’m skeptical how people understand and know the heart of Judas so well.

Self-condemnation is the worst kind...no room for redemption - Cain did it after killing his brother...it's blasphemy against the Holy Spirit to not believe in the Grace and Mercy of God.

Do you mean suicide is a sure sign a person is condemned? Because self- termination is self-condemnation?

Self-condemnation and self-termination are why it states in Psalm 109:8 – “Let his days be few; and let another take his office.”

Same as the above.