we do not have revival because we do not see the need for it.

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. . . and when I point out that the quoted passages don't say what you assert, you resort to ad hominem

It is an observation, not an "ad hominem".

Haven't you figured out yet that I don't care? You though seem to care very much. Think about that. Why do you care so much to run me down in front of others? Pathology at work? Do you feel driven to do so? Can you see this yet?

I Am not the one obsessively commenting on someone else's post. If you do not want me addressing you, do not comment on my posts....
 

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I'm REALLY curious if you had something in mind there . . .

Much love!
I'm standing at the edge of the garden in my heart. The ground is my soul. The open space above the ground is my spirit, which is also where Holy Spirit is. In the middle of the garden is a wellspring, which waters the garden, whenever it rises up.
I see the sky is yellow from the heat of the Sun. It is beating down on the trees and other plants in the garden. Nesting in the tree-tops are trials and tribulations.
"They come for a reason, remaining for a season, accomplishing the reason they were sent. They're heaven-sent."
There are times when the wellspring is inactive, and there is no rain. These harsh times force the plant life to sink their roots down deeper. However, the plants are more resilient to storms, which do come in season. The light and heat are essential for growth.
This is how I see myself inside.
 
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It is an observation, not an "ad hominem".
It's "argument to the person". Rather than respond to the topic, IE, do these Bible verse ACTUALLY say what you claim, instead, you begin to talk about me, as if your comments about me somehow address the fact the the Bible verse don't say what you claim.

As far as an observation, well, we've never even met, and, you have an longstanding track record of disparaging comments of various sorts, so, I'll take that with a grain of salt. But whether or not you even believe what you said, that's not the point.

The point to the Ad Hominem is to make a diversion to avoid the issue.

Much love!
 

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I Am not the one obsessively commenting on someone else's post. If you do not want me addressing you, do not comment on my posts....
I don't mind your replies. I'm counting on them. I want to draw you out.

Eventually you may see, if you become more extreme.

Much love!
 

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I'm standing at the edge of the garden in my heart. The ground is my soul. The open space above the ground is my spirit, which is also where Holy Spirit is. In the middle of the garden is a wellspring, which waters the garden, whenever it rises up.
I see the sky is yellow from the heat of the Sun. It is beating down on the trees and other plants in the garden. Nesting in the tree-tops are trials and tribulations.
"They come for a reason, remaining for a season, accomplishing the reason they were sent. They're heaven-sent."
There are times when the wellspring is inactive, and there is no rain. These harsh times force the plant life to sink their roots down deeper. However, the plants are more resilient to storms, which do come in season. The light and heat are essential for growth.
This is how I see myself inside.
I love it!

There's a song . . . Urban Rescue . . . I can't think of the name, "You are the Sun, and I am the sea, I can feel Your light shine on me, if this is love, then I am desperate for Your touch . . ." that's it, Desperate.

Much love!
 
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I don't mind your replies. I'm counting on them. I want to draw you out.

Eventually you may see, if you become more extreme.

One day you will see what is being said here is from the will of God.... Without Christ, I am nothing.

"I want to draw you out" That is showing your motive here, and the real reason you are obsessed with coming against what I write...
 
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"I want to draw you out" That is showing your motive here,
Yes, that's right!

:)

I've been hoping that, among other things, like learning manners, mostly what I've been hoping is that you would actually determine to show me from the Bible itself, not from Tozer or Ravenhill or one of those guys, but from the Bible Itself the things you teach.

I've been hoping that if you would just set yourself to do that, to show me for once and for all that it's really there in the Bible, then you would make careful search, and find, it's not. You'll have to see this for yourself, I'm trying to provide you the opportunity. That what I mean by "draw you out".

I've never been dishonest with you about my teachings or my motives.

Much love!
 

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I hope you guys don't have any revolvers...I wouldn't want to see it go from "draw you out" to "outdraw you!" Lol

@David H.

Just an expression . . . what I mean by that is to say, I'm hoping to touch something in you which will give a more authentic experience. I want people to be real with me, and I do not believe I've been getting that.

Now . . . a little meta communication . . . In saying I don't believe I've been getting that, I'm not saying someone is being false. I'm not talking about them, I'm talking about my belief about them. And there IS a difference.

Much love!
 

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Yes, that's right!

:)

I've been hoping that, among other things, like learning manners, mostly what I've been hoping is that you would actually determine to show me from the Bible itself, not from Tozer or Ravenhill or one of those guys, but from the Bible Itself the things you teach.

I've been hoping that if you would just set yourself to do that, to show me for once and for all that it's really there in the Bible, then you would make careful search, and find, it's not. You'll have to see this for yourself, I'm trying to provide you the opportunity. That what I mean by "draw you out".

I've never been dishonest with you about my teachings or my motives.

Just an expression . . . what I mean by that is to say, I'm hoping to touch something in you which will give a more authentic experience. I want people to be real with me, and I do not believe I've been getting that.

Now . . . a little meta communication . . . In saying I don't believe I've been getting that, I'm not saying someone is being false. I'm not talking about them, I'm talking about my belief about them. And there IS a difference.

The worm squirms when he is caught... changing definitions to make himself look good....

A word of advice, You cannot expose the Holy Ghost as if to cast Him out. You tried to expose me as a false prophet, yet i never claimed to be a prophet, You try to say my teachings are from men, yet no man has held to the teachings that He has given me. You try to say my teachings are unbiblical, yet I use more scripture than most here to present my points than most do.

Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. (Matthew 5:11)
 

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The worm squirms when he is caught... changing definitions to make himself look good....
Was this statement really necessary?
 
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You tried to expose me as a false prophet,
I've never said you are or are not a prophet. Do you believe you are a prophet?

Are you talking about where I quoted Jesus as telling us we can know the false prophet by their fruit? I make a correlation to the fruit of the Spirit, that these are character, good character. Loving, peaceable, joyful, faithful, self-control, all these. So then, this bad fruit of the false prophet, it is likewise character?

Much love!
 

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The worm squirms when he is caught... changing definitions to make himself look good....
Was this statement really necessary?

Again, why do you find it useful or necessary to write like this? What church did you learn this in?

I learned that in the church of hard knox. Squirming is a sign of weakness on the debate stage. Just like defensiveness and being offended are.

I've never said you are or are not a prophet. Do you believe you are a prophet?

Are you talking about where I quoted Jesus as telling us we can know the false prophet by their fruit? I make a correlation to the fruit of the Spirit, that these are character, good character. Loving, peaceable, joyful, faithful, self-control, all these. So then, this bad fruit of the false prophet, it is likewise character?

Squirm, squirm....
Time to go fishing!
 

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I learned that in the church of hard knox. Squirming is a sign of weakness on the debate stage. Just like defensiveness and being offended are.



Squirm, squirm....
Time to go fishing!

All so much easier for you than having a Scriptural discussion. But so much more boring! It's too bad!


Much love!
 

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All so much easier for you than having a Scriptural discussion.

Your motive is to "draw me out", My motive is to point people to Christ and the cross, and to seek more of what he has for us.... This should say something here.
 

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I learned that in the church of hard knox. Squirming is a sign of weakness on the debate stage. Just like defensiveness and being offended are.



Squirm, squirm....
Time to go fishing!
Fall on the Rock, David, you know the rest.
Anyone who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; anyone on whom it falls will be crushed.” Matthew 21:44