We Need a HEROIC President—to save our (once Christian) nation

[heretoeternity]

Is that a fact hey? Well this is a new one. They "accidentally" killed him? Was this "accident" ever investigated by the Warren commission to be a fact, or any other 'investigation'? Or are they still officially going with the magic bullet from "I'm just a patsy" Lee Harvey Oswald?

You are right on...Stan's comments indicate he has not understanding of the issues at all, like a lot of other topics he address....
JFK was killed by the establishment because he was pro active in promoting peace, monetary and banking reform, withdrawal of troops from Viet Nam, controlling the CIA who were operating outside international law (even then), and he was after organized crime..anyone of these caused the establishment to react against him...and let's not forget the military who did not want disengagement from SE Asia...
He was a war hero, and as such, he realized the fulility of wars. He was a Patriotic American, unlike the leaders of today who are committed to the globalist agenda of world domination, and who forget about their country and their constitutional responsibilities as leaders of their country.

 

[Dcopymope]

You are right on...Stan's comments indicate he has not understanding of the issues at all, like a lot of other topics he address....
JFK was killed by the establishment because he was pro active in promoting peace, monetary and banking reform, withdrawal of troops from Viet Nam, controlling the CIA who were operating outside international law (even then), and he was after organized crime..anyone of these caused the establishment to react against him...and let's not forget the military who did not want disengagement from SE Asia...
He was a war hero, and as such, he realized the fulility of wars. He was a Patriotic American, unlike the leaders of today who are committed to the globalist agenda of world domination, and who forget about their country and their constitutional responsibilities as leaders of their country.

Well here is the bottom line for all the people who believe that their government is so benevolent that assassination and committing various other crimes against humanity for, what I will just call "the Satanic network", is below them. If you believe that the government is really going to incriminate itself in some "commission" or so called "investigation", then you are as naive as you can possibly get. The sole purpose of these so called "commissions", you know like the warren or the 9/11 commission, is to whitewash the truth so that the evidence doesn't indicate any government involvement. So you can rest assured that nothing will ever get solved. You will never really get the whole truth on much of anything.

 

[StanJ]

Is that a fact hey? Well this is a new one. They "accidentally" killed him? Was this "accident" ever investigated by the Warren commission to be a fact, or any other 'investigation'? Or are they still officially going with the magic bullet from "I'm just a patsy" Lee Harvey Oswald?

No Oswald definitely shot first but the chain reaction that caused, was why Kennedy was hit in the back of the head in a trajectory not consistent with where Oswald was. The following is a short synopsis.
https://youtu.be/hFeLnfw0Xxo

 

[michaelvpardo]

You are right on...Stan's comments indicate he has not understanding of the issues at all, like a lot of other topics he address....
JFK was killed by the establishment because he was pro active in promoting peace, monetary and banking reform, withdrawal of troops from Viet Nam, controlling the CIA who were operating outside international law (even then), and he was after organized crime..anyone of these caused the establishment to react against him...and let's not forget the military who did not want disengagement from SE Asia...

That's odd, JFK has been credited with creating the CIA and later trying to reign it in. Wasn't he the guy who sent troops to invade the bay of pigs in Cuba? Wasn't he the guy that blockaded Cuba from Russian ships carrying missiles there (some time after the bay of pigs incident,) nearly starting a world wide thermo-nuclear war? Please, don't misunderstand me. As a Catholic kid, I was inspired by his inaugural speech, and I still consider him among the best presidents in my life time, but I favored tricky dick more, and he at least kept his promise to get us out of Viet-Nam, as bumbling as it was. Men are at their best, just men, fallen, sinners, and in need of a savior. JFK was no exception.

 

[heretoeternity]

You are wrong. The CIA was forum long before JFK...he did not like covert organizations like the CIA, and was set to disband them. He did not order the Bay of Pigs invasion...the CIA took it upon themselves to recruit and invade..they got badly beaten back, and were an embarassment to Mr Kennedy. In 1962 when U2 photos showed Russian Missiles in Cuba, he did blockade the ocean, and stopped subsequent deliveries of offensive missiles from USSR...it was the only viable option at the time, as nuclear war was looming, and a no win situation...the response bluff worked. Krushchev blinded.
Anyway President Kennedy was a true patriot who believed in the constitution of the Country and upholding that, which is the responsibility of all presidents...the ones that followed him are all selfish, greedy,little globalists who sell themselves to the money and influence interests....they are also chicken hawks, who like to start wars, and send others children and relatives to fight, but not them or their families...
Mr Kennedy was a war hero, and his brother was killed in the Air Force fighting to save Britain, over the English channel. They know the price of war, and also the price of standing up for your values and beliefs and trying to make the country and indeed, the world a better place.

 

[michaelvpardo]

You are wrong. The CIA was forum long before JFK...he did not like covert organizations like the CIA, and was set to disband them. He did not order the Bay of Pigs invasion...the CIA took it upon themselves to recruit and invade..they got badly beaten back, and were an embarassment to Mr Kennedy. In 1962 when U2 photos showed Russian Missiles in Cuba, he did blockade the ocean, and stopped subsequent deliveries of offensive missiles from USSR...it was the only viable option at the time, as nuclear war was looming, and a no win situation...the response bluff worked. Krushchev blinded.
Anyway President Kennedy was a true patriot who believed in the constitution of the Country and upholding that, which is the responsibility of all presidents...the ones that followed him are all selfish, greedy,little globalists who sell themselves to the money and influence interests....they are also chicken hawks, who like to start wars, and send others children and relatives to fight, but not them or their families...
Mr Kennedy was a war hero, and his brother was killed in the Air Force fighting to save Britain, over the English channel. They know the price of war, and also the price of standing up for your values and beliefs and trying to make the country and indeed, the world a better place.

I apologize. I hadn't realized that the all the researchers, newsmen, and the like were all part of a conspiracy to make JFK look like an ordinary man, but thanks for your insight.

 

[heretoeternity]

I apologize. I hadn't realized that the all the researchers, newsmen, and the like were all part of a conspiracy to make JFK look like an ordinary man, but thanks for your insight.

Glad I could help you better understand the facts...

 

[Josho]

I'm jumping in, it's been a while since I've been on these forums, sorry for late reply, but you do not need a heroic president to turn your country around.. No. It's up to the Body of Christ to turn your nation around, or any nation, it's up to all Christians to awake and take a deeper walk with Christ, and that is not done by spreading rumors that may or may not be true and illuminati conspiracy theories. 1st of all i want to say Hillary is nothing like a Jezebel, she is a far left wing born again Christian, and you will find a lot of the modern day church shares the same views as her, if you seriously think that, then you better go look at North Korea or Myanmar. Why do you even pay attention to all these rumors? Now i gotta tell ya all something, I don't know about you, but I fear God too much to be comparing other believers to Jezebel.

Now back on topic if more Christians were to take a deeper walk in Christ, you will see a lot more Christians using their spiritual gifts, as a result there will be more true prophesies, healings, the casting of demons, the raising of the dead, interceding, signs, wonders, and yes maybe even a lot more of us walking on water, maybe even dividing the Red Sea once again, as a result many more people will get led to Jesus, and these are the ingredients of revival, if you want America saved once again, if you wanna become United once again, i encourage you all to take a deeper walk with Christ, spend more time with him, he is your greatest and best friend after all right?

 

[heretoeternity]

Do you think a politcal leader that supports murder of babies in the mothers' wombs is worthy of leadership? Do you support such a person with your vote? Do you think a politcal leader who supports the cowardly bombing of hospitals, schools, infastructure of other countries killing indiscriminately is worthy of your vote? You mention North Korea in a derogatory sense..how do you know? You read the MSM propaganda about this country? They are surviving despite the false western propaganda being spewed...don't forget Korea is one country, which should have been reunified by the 1950 Korean war...but no thanks to the western countries, in particular the USA, they are still divided and still at war...do you like that scenario?

 

[Josho]

No i do not support neither of your candidates and there are no good choices, 1 is a bully and possibly an unrepentant past sexual offender, the other one is too accepting towards immorality, and all the others are either left wing or split down the middle, there is no true conservative, but don't you realize a lot of Christians out there support that stuff? And jeez even some of them are born again, but have became sleeping Christians, and it's not up to us to judge whether they have lost their salvation or not.............. While they may support it doesn't mean they all practice homosexuality, adultery, the killing of babies, etc. It would be wrong to assume all of them do, and for those who practice the stuff, well they are in for a big shock on judgement day. And yes i agree with you USA is divided, whites against blacks, blacks against whites, civilians against cops, Christians against Christians, and a massive growing gap between left and right, so divided i do not even know why it's called the United States anymore, that's why many sleeping Christians need to wake up and take a stand instead of just accepting all this political correctness, and the brain-washing of many young minds and jeez they need to come closer to Jesus, to have a real impact on your nation.

So you don't believe their are a lot more Christians being persecuted in Muslim nations like Somalia, Sudan and nations like North Korea and Myanmar than Western nations? Well ya wrong, many people over there just get killed for having different ideologies and different beliefs in those nations, so you label all those missionary reports as false? The ones who actually go over there and help the persecuted? Well why don't you go over there yourself and see what's like.

 

[heretoeternity]

Have you seen how Muslims are persecuted in Zionist controlled countries such as the USA? "christians" are being persecuted right in the western world ie USA, Canada etc (just try coming against homosexuality, abortion etc) these countries and you will find out...you will be charged with hate crimes. Do you think that is acceptable? Don't you think one should deal with the persecuting societies you know about rather than other countries upon which you rely on propaganda of the MSM? Do you think maybe the incessant illegal wars perpetrated by the so called Christian nation, of USA on Muslim and Arab countries, and the indescriminate bombing and killing of these people has caused the majority of discrimination against 'christians" in those countries?...I guess violence begets violence and hatred begets hatred..would you agree?

 

[Josho]

No i don't think it's acceptable and neither is the killing of Christians in other countries, and you got your facts wrong again.... the killings are happening because they see Christianity as a threat because of the speed it's growing at in those 3rd world countries and they are afraid it will wipe out their Muslim majorities or Buddhist majorities, or the attention of worshiping leaders shifts to Christianity, and they are just plain blind spiritually, they have no tolerance for other ideas and beliefs, now that is why. You would not be happy if Trump was found truly to be guilty for sexual assault and has gotten away with it would ya? It just seems to me you can get away with anything in the USA if you're famous. You might as well have Charlie Sheen standing as Republican nominee, there's not much difference. Seriously go check out Donald Trump's twitter and you will find in every 2nd tweet, he is bullying someone else. 2 days later he will say I DID NOT SAY THAT!!!! Is that someone you want as president?

Since when was it up to a president to save a nation? Did the Welsh revival start from parliament? Did Azusa street Revival start from the White House, no........ There you have it.

 

[Dan57]

Trump claims to be a Christian :) .. I was planning to vote for Trump until this past week, but its all a bit too much now after a half dozen women have accused him of groping them. I fear Trump would be Bill Clinton, chapter two.. I don't like Hillary, the Green Party Jill Stein, or the Libertarian Gary Johnson either. So I'm going to vote or write-in the Independent Evan McMullin... Essentially a protest vote against the status quo.. That's what Trump started out to be, but now I wouldn't trust that pervert alone in the Oval Office with my sister.

 

[Josho]

Trump claims to be a Christian :) .. I was planning to vote for Trump until this past week, but its all a bit too much now after a half dozen women have accused him of groping them. I fear Trump would be Bill Clinton, chapter two.. I don't like Hillary, the Green Party Jill Stein, or the Libertarian Gary Johnson either. So I'm going to vote or write-in the Independent Evan McMullin... Essentially a protest vote against the status quo.. That's what Trump started out to be, but now I wouldn't trust that pervert alone in the Oval Office with my sister.

At least McMullin is pro-life, even though he is a Mormon he appears to be 1 of the better choices.

 

[heretoeternity]

It is unfortunate that Ron Paul or his son Rand are not in the running for President...they are Pro Life, and would bring some dignity and decency back into the system...unfortunately the people behind the scenes who control the selection of candidates and the system do not want those attributes in the candidates....The result we get a drugged up feminist who has no qualms about murdering babies, or starting wars around the planet, or a self adulating billionaire who thinks he is able to say and do what he wants...what's the choice?