The Light
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What would the reason and purpose be? Can you clarify as I am unaware of this.The 7th trumpet and Paul tells us the reason and the purpose for the one and only raptor
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What would the reason and purpose be? Can you clarify as I am unaware of this.The 7th trumpet and Paul tells us the reason and the purpose for the one and only raptor
man, i sure hope you are allowing for the possibility that any rapture (from harpazo anyway) is wishful thinking m fox.HI Light
The one and only rapture right before the end of our world
And that is exactly what I am referring to. So here is the sequence of events:I didn’t conveniently ignore anything because my point of this post is the timing of the rapture.
Really. Your Bible have its pages mixed up!
Hi Jeff.You are so mixed up.
The bride makes herself ready for glorification day. We have a body like his glorious body not our body of flesh. Wedding garments are given us when he comes to receive us.
man, i sure hope you are allowing for the possibility that any rapture (from harpazo anyway) is wishful thinking m fox.
Bc it almost surely is ok. Notice how you speak as if you know? bad sign, that
What would the reason and purpose be? Can you clarify as I am unaware of this.
And that is exactly what I am referring to. So here is the sequence of events:
1. The Resurrection/Rapture
2. All the saints (the Bride) in Heaven
3. The Marriage of the Lamb
4. The Second Coming of Christ (at least 7 years after the Rapture)
5. The battle of Armageddon
6. The Millennium
7. The battle of Gog and Magog
8. The Great White Throne Judgment
9. The supernatural fiery cleansing of the earth and its atmosphere
10. The end of the present world and all heavenly bodies
11. The New Heavens and the New Earth
12. The New Jerusalem as the only heavenly body to give light to the earth.
And that is exactly what I am referring to. So here is the sequence of events:
1. The Resurrection/Rapture
2. All the saints (the Bride) in Heaven
3. The Marriage of the Lamb
4. The Second Coming of Christ (at least 7 years after the Rapture)
5. The battle of Armageddon
6. The Millennium
7. The battle of Gog and Magog
8. The Great White Throne Judgment
9. The supernatural fiery cleansing of the earth and its atmosphere
10. The end of the present world and all heavenly bodies
11. The New Heavens and the New Earth
12. The New Jerusalem as the only heavenly body to give light to the earth.
How do you come to that conclusion?Babylon falls after the sixth trumpet
That would be nice if the Bible taught that. Let’s see what Paul said.And that is exactly what I am referring to. So here is the sequence of events:
1. The Resurrection/Rapture
2. All the saints (the Bride) in Heaven
3. The Marriage of the Lamb
4. The Second Coming of Christ (at least 7 years after the Rapture)
If you read both of the main post (if you haven’t) you will see what Paul states. Paul shows us that the rapture is for the changing of our bodies so that we can enter heaven as our splender needs to change before we enter.
The other purpose is to miss Gods judgement in the earth. We go through worldly tribulations and persecutions but not Gods judgement.
Youre correct. The 7th Trumpet is not the voice of God. But it is a trumpet of God. Have you not read Revelation 8:2 ?I think you are confused. The seventh trumpet which is blown by an angel is not the same as the trump of God or voice of God.
Youre correct. The 7th Trumpet is not the voice of God. But it is a trumpet of God. Have you not read Revelation 8:2 ?
2And I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and they were given seven trumpets.
The trumpets were given to them. Angels circled the throne room per Rev 4, but these 7 stood in God’s presence marking 2 interesting things:
1. They were given trumpets from God
2. Luke 1:19
19And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God;
And again in Jude 1:9 tells us Michael is an archangel. Also, in Daniel 10:13 it says, Michael, one of the chief princes (plural and another name for archangels). These are given the 7 trumpets of God. Only archangels stand in God’s presence. So when we do see the 7th Trumpet blown, it’s blown by an archangel, exactly as Paul said it would.
well, its pretty flowery language, and might lend itself to other interpretations?I only say what Paul shows us happens at the last trumpet.
Well thank you. But with your interpretation, Rev 4 does describe the voice like a trumpet. It’s demonstrating the effect of what he hears at that time in symbolism. In 1 Thess, Paul is not speaking symbolically but literally. An archangel, a trumpet of God etc. The same as 1 Corinthians 15:52 and Matthew 24:31It's a good effort, I'll give you that, but the facts of Scripture tell the true story.
So you believe that the seventh trumpet blown by an angel is the same thing as the trump of God or voice of God?
Revelation 1
10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
I think you are confused. The seventh trumpet which is blown by an angel is not the same as the trump of God or voice of God.
How do you come to that conclusion?
1. 7th Trumpet at the end of the world; AgreeI believe the 7th trumpet to be the end of our world. I also believe that Babylon the great to be the great whore Jerusalem in the first century.
She falls after the 6th trumpet and the 7th seal and the 7th bowl
1. 7th Trumpet at the end of the world; Agree
2. Babylon to be Jerusalem in The 1st century? Honestly, I’ve never heard that.
What do you mean by the 6th trumpet = the 7th seal = the 7th bowl?