1 Corinthians 16:1
(CEV) When you collect money for God's people, I want you to do exactly what I told the churches in Galatia to do.
(KJV) Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.
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(LITV) And about the collection for the saints, as I charged the assemblies of Galatia, so also you do.
(MKJV) And concerning the collection for the saints, as I charged the churches of Galatia, so also you do.
(YLT) And concerning the collection that is for the saints, as I directed to the assemblies of Galatia, so also ye—do ye;
The Greek word for saints/people is hagios. The word for church is ekklesia. Two different words meaning two different things. The collection here was for the people, not the church.
2 Co 8:4 with much entreating, begging us to receive of us the grace and the fellowship of the ministry to the saints. Note- saints not church.
2Co 8:19 and not only so, but also he having been chosen by the assemblies as a traveling companion to us with this gift being ministered by us to the glory of the Lord Himself, and your eagerness. A companion was chosen by the assemblies to travel with Paul and Titus who brought with him a monetary gift. For Paul and Titus, not the church.
2Co 9:1 For indeed concerning the ministry to the saints, it is superfluous for me to write to you. Ministry to the SAINTS, NOT THE CHURCH.
Rom 15:26 For Macedonia and Achaia thought it good to make certain gifts to the poor of the saints in Jerusalem. Gifts to the poor of the saints, not the church.
The word ecclesia is not in any of these verses so the church is not the focus of them.
That is a very weak argument, to say that the saints are not the church. The church consists of the saints. I believe that you are therefore grasping at straws.
Your doctrinal lie fails, and you do what all cults do when someone does not accept their lie... you blame the person's faith!
Shame on you! I went into it convinced. I was faithful to the LAW, and trusted the false PROMISE. You cannot stand in judgment of what you do not know! You can only "assume" that since your faulty product was an utter failure, that the person using it is at fault if it did not work! I "tested it" as you challenged! It failed! The debate whether it is true or not is over!
Ephesians 1:3 says no more about being blessed by God if you tithe than it does about being blessed if you wear your underwear inside-out in Church! I have just as much New Testament proof that this is what Ephesians 1:3 says, as you do!
You are a False Teacher, telling Christians that God will bless them if they place themselves under the bondage of the Law!
Then Malachi was a false teacher for telling God's people the very same thing (for it was not the law that he was bringing them under, but rather he was showing them a promise).
The fact that you do not believe in the sufficiency of the Lord and His ability to keep His promises is really a crying shame. I don't know why He didn't come through for you; all I know is that the Lord is faithful and will keep His promises; and that He has in fact promised to pour out a blessing that you will not be able to receive it, it is so great; if you would but bring in the whole tithe into the storehouse.
Maybe He didn't bless you because you didn't give 23%.
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Oh how the circular logic of a failed false doctrine convolutes into nonsense so quickly!
That's not an "interpretation"... that is pure fictional nonsense!
1 Corinthians 1:18.
Jesus set our example for us in 2 Corinthians 8:9.
So, as we look at
Malachi 3:8-10...
you are failing to bring in
all the Tithe unless you are giving
23%!!!! You 'Tithers' out there need to stop robbing God and get with the program!
The word tithe has a definition: 1/10 (see also Genesis 28:20-22). But it brings up an interesting point as to why your faith failed when you only tithed the 1/10 that God required of you. Because God looks at our whole life and the doctrine of our whole life when judging us. So He may have been taking into account, then, what you are saying today on the issue.
So I suppose that if you begin to again tithe; and also bring in 23% rather than the normally interpreted 1/10, the Lord will see you as actually fulfilling the condition of the promise as far as your faith is concerned.
It is definitely true that when it does not seem to man that God is faithful, that the fault does not lie in God but in the man who is accusing the Lord.
Because I know that the Lord has been faithful to me over my tithing. I may not be extremely wealthy; but I have never lacked any food, shelter, or clothing. Philippians 4:19 has always been fulfilled in my life.
Also, if you were tithing because you wanted God to make you rich because of it, then you had the wrong motives in tithing; and God is not going to honour that.
If you have been provided for all your life and have never been without shelter, food, or clothing, then God has fulfilled His promise.
But I know that, even though the Lord has not made me extremely wealthy financially because of my tithe, that He has in fact opened the windows of heaven for me in that I always feel the presence of the Holy Spirit. And if that be the only benefit that one can get from tithing, it is extremely worth it.