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Discussion in 'Christian Theology Forum' started by Rocky Wiley, Jun 16, 2020.

  1. Rocky Wiley

    Rocky Wiley Active Member

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    My church of the past really wanted your tithes.

    How about yours?
     
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    Candidus Well-Known Member

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    The Gospel is free... but Church Membership isn't!:rolleyes:
     
  3. Rocky Wiley

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    I think it's the law!
     
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    Jane_Doe22 Well-Known Member

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    You should indeed. It’s important to put God first. Too often people put their money first.
     
  5. Rocky Wiley

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    Putting God first isn't the question. Do you think you must tithe? My Pastor thought so!
     
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    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

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    The tithes were required under the Old Covenant. Christian giving -- LIBERALITY -- is a grace under the New Covenant. Take some time to study the matter from the New Testament and the teachings of Christ.

    While 10% is a good place to start, that is not where you must finish.
     
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  7. Rocky Wiley

    Rocky Wiley Active Member

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    We only need to give what we feel in our hearts to give. We are not under the Law and we should not be told that we must give 10%. When they do that I leave.

    Not all churches lie to you.
     
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    yeh, whatever happened to the storehouse, huh
     
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    Helen Well-Known Member

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    "For me" it is a heart thing...

    In the sermon on the mount Jesus showed us clearly that the Law does not produce fruit or life.
    It was a school teacher. We do not live there.

    Jesus gave us the two love commandments which totally fulfilled and swallowed up the 10.

    Love always wins.
    If we live and walk in the love of God then keeping His will is automatic...not a weight, not a burden, not something which 'must' be done.

    The only law we are under is love.
    If we love then we give.

    As for The Tithe ...it is cheap, narrow and small and legalistic !
    Any fool can give 10%
    If we read the sermon on the mount in the Spirit that Jesus spoke it, we see Jesus RAISED everything higher than the law, to heart level. That is the test.

    If people " pays their tenth"...it shows that they have totally missed the message of Jesus.

    If a person just settles on "paying God's dues" ..then they don't bother to pray and ask the Lord - "So what , how much,and where, do You wish me to bless someone somewhere from YOU with Your Money this month?"

    In just 'paying a tenth'....There is no chance at all that a person will hear -God say -
    " 50 % this month" , or even -
    " Send $5,000 to so and so from Me."
    If the person has no 'heart of giving' in them and they believe that only 10% belongs to God and the 90% is all theirs....they have made a choice to be serving under the old re tithes, because it benefits themselves much more.
     
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    DPMartin Well-Known Member

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    that's between you and the Lord, there are effective ways to give or offer. if you support a ministry it doesn't always have to be with money.
     
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    "But who am I, and what is my people, that we should be able to offer so willingly after this sort? for all things come of thee, and of thine own have we given thee" I Chron 29:14
     
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  12. Enoch111

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    Not entirely. The Bible says "as God has prospered you".

    Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. (1 Cor 16:2)

    So if you received a bonus of $10,000 for excellent work, how much did God prosper you over your regular income? Therefore another principle kicks in: But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. (2 Cor 9:6)
     
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    A great number of Israel on the Jordan. John proclaiming" make straight the way of the Lord". Israel responds what shall we do John? " Do you have two coats? Impart to your brother who has none."
     
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    Tithing, while it is not a legalistic obligation in the NT, carries with it a promise. So if you want to be a recipient of the promise you will fulfill its condition (see Malachi 3).
     
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  15. Rocky Wiley

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    We don't need a Pastor who needs 10% for his time when the church never needed a pastor. See if you find one below.
    1Co 12:27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
    1Co 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
    1Co 12:29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
    1Co 12:30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
    1Co 12:31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.

    We don't need a person to lord over us.
     
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    That is what the church does, they go back to quote the Law (like Malachi 3)
     
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    I have mostly used these verses in reference to giving to God's work.

    2 Corinthians 9:6-8--Remember this: The person who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and the person who sows generously will also reap generously. Each person should do as he has decided in his heart — not reluctantly or out of necessity, for God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to make every grace overflow to you, so that in every way, always having everything you need, you may excel in every good work.
     
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    IF your heart is first and foremost on God, then supporting physical operations of the church through tithes should be an obvious and natural thing to do.

    If you attitude is "Yeah I like Jesus- but don't you dare touch my money!!!" ... where is your heart and what are you truly placing first?
     
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    Even so with regard to lording it over us but also see...

    "And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
    For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
    Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:" Eph 4:11-13
     
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