What did Jesus die to save us from?

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If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” you will be saved.

The NT actually teaches that "if you believe in your heart that God has raised Jesus from the Dead" .. you shall be saved.

or.

"All who call on the Name of Jesus, (believing) shall be saved"..

So, if a person says....>"Jesus is Lord"........then that is not the same as them realising they are a sinner, needing to be forgiven, needing Jesus as their Savior, = which leads them to repent of their unbelief and then give God their Faith in Christ before they die and go to Hell.

So, @St. SteVen , you twist verses to teach a false Gospel, because you are the loud and proud victim of one.
The patient Brother who you've been trying to deceive with your Universalism Cult theology, has given you the benefit of the doubt that because you are on a "christian fourm" teaching Cross Rejecting theology, that you are just a little confused.

However, you are a lot more then that, fella.

Let me share something with you.

There are many deceived Calvinists on this forum.....however, and even tho their theolgy came from a demon possessed heretic........this theology, does not lead people to hell..

Whereas, your's does.... as your false Gospel of ".Universalism" is designed to keep unbelievers from trusting in Christ and die believing they are going to Heaven.....and that is a serious problem on a "christian forum"....if its allowed to continue to be taught, preached, shared, by a deceiver like you.

 

[St. SteVen]

OK you demonstrate you are really steeped in universalism.

There seems little point in raising biblical objections to your theological position.

I rarely play scripture ping pong - folks believe what they want for whatever reason.

I have tried to dialogue because I consider you a friend.

Can we agree to hold our views with a loose hand and He will bring correction in due course.

Steeped? - LOL

I still consider you a friend as well. Even though we have butted heads over this issue a few times.

Hopefully you understand that Universalism (apokatastasis) isn't some modern invention.
The belief was held by many in the eastern (Greek) church. (HQ'd in Jerusalem)
Our Bible came from the western (Latin) church in Rome. Thus the bias.

"The Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge" by Schaff-Herzog, 1908, volume 12, page 96 German theologian- Philip Schaff, Editor: "In the first five or six centuries of Christianity there were six theological schools, of which four (Alexandria, Antioch, Caesarea, and Edessa, or Nisibis) were Universalist, one (Ephesus) accepted conditional immortality; one (Carthage or Rome) taught endless punishment of the wicked. Other theological schools are mentioned as founded by Universalists, but their actual doctrine on this subject is not known."

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The main Patristic supporters of the apokatastasis theory, such as Bardaisan, Clement, Origin, Didymus, St. Anthony, St. Pamphilus Martyr, Methodius, St. Macrina, St. Gregory of Nyssa (and probably the two other Cappadocians), St. Evagrius Ponticus, Diodore of Tarsus, Theodore of Mopsuestia, St. John of Jerusalem, Rufinus, St. Jerome and St. Augustine (at least initially) … Cassian, St. Issac of Nineveh, St. John of Dalyatha, Ps. Dionysius the Areopagite, probably St. Maximus the Confessor, up to John the Scot Eriugena, and many others, grounded their Christian doctrine of apokatastasis first of all in the Bible.
— Ramelli, Christian Doctrine, 11.

Apokatastasis in the Bible​

Apokatastasis in the early church​

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Hopefully you understand that Universalism (apokatastasis) isn't some modern invention.

@St Steven... very few of Satan's Gospel are "new"., including yours.

"Universalism", your demonic gospel, has been around for a long time.

I always smile at pretend "scholars" who try to use Catholic Cult Church Fathers as their "proof text".
And to try to use Origin, is a hoot... truly.
He's not the only religious lunitic on your list , but he's probably the most insane.
This one castrated Himself, at one point, and his teaching is the reason that Catholics believe in "Purgatory", tho Origin's initial concept was more about "soul sleep" that was eventually morphed into the Catholic nonsense they teach as : Purgatory.