What does the Christian need to do when they have sinned?

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Jesus was tempted 3 times in the wilderness.
Flesh: he had fasted 40 days and nights and Satan tried to tempt him to eat knowing he was hungry.

Mind: Satan took Jesus and sat him on the highest point of the temple and said IF you are the Son of God,
throw yourself down. For it is written
“‘He will command his angels concerning you,
and they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’”
Spirit: Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. 9 “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.”

The lust of the flesh - hunger for food

The lust of the eyes - all the glory of the kingdoms of the world

The pride of life - God won't let anything happen to YOU!

Much love!

 

[CharismaticLady]

If we are ALL given the mind of Christ, then there would never be any theological dispute, or any confusion among believers, or 4000 denominations.
We'd all automatically have the same MIND.
But we don't....So your theology is error, as usual.

Think of it like this, Charismatic.....If we all had the MIND of Christ, then would we ALL be be told by Paul to "renew our minds"? Why would we need to renew Christ's mind.
So, try not to let that reality check leave you in a stupor.
So, you are theologicaly clueless, pretending to be an authority.
Also, as i reminded you yesterday, if a person over 60 yrs old has a sound mind, a woman, then she is not going to be asking a male believer about his sex life, on a Christian forum.
Keep that in your mind.

You are right. We don't ALL have the mind of Christ. Only those who claim Christ AND have been born again of the SPIRIT. And don't think just knowing about Christ is enough to give us the Spirit. We MUST have been given the Spirit in order to BELONG to Christ. That is why some will say "Lord, Lord" but Jesus will say, "I never knew you."

So for you to be a good teacher in Israel, you must figure out HOW the Bible says to become born again of the Spirit. It takes true repentance from thinking we can act righteous in our own willpower, and finally recognize that with only the carnal nature at work in us, we CAN'T! Then ask Jesus to fill them with His divine power. That integrity of heart will be enough for Jesus to act. And they will KNOW when the Spirit comes in them. The power is unmistakable, and not theological, but a life-changing reality that partakes of the divine nature of Christ.

Behold, you have the passion to make a great teacher. You just need to learn the simple truth of the gospel, and that is that Jesus frees us from ALL unrighteousness. The change in nature is what is being born again.

 

[CharismaticLady]

I am not against the spiritual unseen gifts of the Holy Spirit . Can't see a spirit . The bible does not teach of sign gifts . We walk by faith the unseen gift.

'You will not find the two words "sign and gift" working as one doctrine

That is right. The signs are given to all believers as a sign they are of Christ and are given His authority. Mark 16:16-18.

The gifts are for ministry and are given to those in ministry for the profit of the whole congregation. They are given to those Jesus gives His offices.

As for tongues. All believers are given the ability to pray TO God, but interpretation is not one of the manifestations for our prayer language. That is why it is not with tongues in Mark 16:17-18. There is a second manifestation of tongues called the gift of diverse kinds of tongues in 1 Corinthians 12. These gifts are given for those in an office, and not given to ALL believers. This is for messages FROM God. This is why interpretation is among these offices, because messages from God MUST be interpreted, whereas prayer to God is understood by Him, the Recipient.

Therefore, it is wrong for some to suggest that praying in tongues is out of order if there is no interpretation. Interpretation is not required, but you can ask God to give you the interpretation if He will. Also, it is wrong to preach that not everyone is given a prayer language based on 1 Corinthians 12:30. The gift of diverse kinds of tongues is NOT our prayer language, though it may sound the same. The difference is the direction. To vs. From.

 

[Behold]

You are right. We don't ALL have the mind of Christ. .

So, now you say we dont all have the mind of Christ.
IN your previous post you said we do.
You need to do some POST editing so that the members here wont be able to realize what you are,......
Better hurry.

 

[Behold]

God is Spirit, so of course Him dwelling inside us is supernatural. If you are against the gifts of the Spirit, you must have a holey Bible.

Its not really fair to claim that someone is against the gifts, when the issue is that the church is found full of people that fake the gifts.
So, this is the issue.
The FAKIRS.
Its "charismatics" who are obsessed with "gifts"..trying to pretend they have them.
You would know all about that.

 

[Gary Urban]

That is right. The signs are given to all believers as a sign they are of Christ and are given His authority. Mark 16:16-18.

The gifts are for ministry and are given to those in ministry for the profit of the whole congregation. They are given to those Jesus gives His offices.

As for tongues. All believers are given the ability to pray TO God, but interpretation is not one of the manifestations for our prayer language. That is why it is not with tongues in Mark 16:17-18. There is a second manifestation of tongues called the gift of diverse kinds of tongues in 1 Corinthians 12. These gifts are given for those in an office, and not given to ALL believers. This is for messages FROM God. This is why interpretation is among these offices, because messages from God MUST be interpreted, whereas prayer to God is understood by Him, the Recipient.

Therefore, it is wrong for some to suggest that praying in tongues is out of order if there is no interpretation. Interpretation is not required, but you can ask God to give you the interpretation if He will. Also, it is wrong to preach that not everyone is given a prayer language based on 1 Corinthians 12:30. The gift of diverse kinds of tongues is NOT our prayer language, though it may sound the same. The difference is the direction. To vs. From.

.Prayer language is the meditation of ones heart no secret to God, no hidden self edifying ministries.

I would offer there is no such thing a second manifestation. Or sign gift. Spiritual unseen gifts yes.

Tongues are the media by which God declares prophecy. There is no secret office. Our prayer language is the langue we use .He knows our needs before we ask Him .

Tongues is according to the foundation of the doctrine Isaiah 28 as prophecy. Many by pass the foundation as if it was not there.

Again tongues is God bringing his word in other languages other than Hebrew the promise spoken of in Joel, men and woman for all nations declaring the word of God. . the power to raise the dead and protect them from false apostles, false doctrine the poison of serpents. .

The law yet for all that they refuse to hear so that they can keep their oral tradition of mankind of Isaiah 28 revisited in 1 Corinthians 14

Note . . .Green, prophecy and the believer.

Note . . .Red, the law of God not subject to change by a oral tradition making a noise and fall backward slain in the spirit.

Note. . Black, unconverted mankind those that refuse to get under the foundation of the doctrine.

Note . . Purple, language without understanding used to mock prophrecy the tongue of God.


Corinthians 14: 21 In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.

The foundation of the doctrine (Isaiah 28) must be compared to the above a branch of the teaching.(Corinthians 14) Again no such thing as a outward sign gift.We are to walk by faith, being filled with the Holy Spirit from the moment we first hear his voice or tongue.

Isaiah 28 :9-13 The people say, “Who does he think he is trying to teach and explain his message to? Does he think we are babies who were at their mother’s breast only a very short time ago? He speaks to us as though we were babies: “Saw lasaw saw lasawQaw laqaw qaw laqawZe’er sham ze’er sham.” So God will use this strange way of talking, and he will use other languages to speak to these people. In the past he spoke to them and said, “Here is a resting place. Let those who are tired come and rest. This is the place of peace.”But they would not listen to him. So the Lord’s words will be senseless sounds to them:“Saw lasaw saw lasaw.Qaw laqaw qaw laqaw.Ze’er sham ze’er sham.” When the people try to walk, they will fall backwards. They will be defeated, trapped, and captured.

 

[CharismaticLady]

So, now you say we dont all have the mind of Christ.
IN your previous post you said we do.
You need to do some POST editing so that the members here wont be able to realize what you are,......
Better hurry.

Not all who claim Christ have the mind of Christ, but only those who have actually been born again and are being saved.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Its not really fair to claim that someone is against the gifts, when the issue is that the church is found full of people that fake the gifts.
So, this is the issue.
The FAKIRS.
Its "charismatics" who are obsessed with "gifts"..trying to pretend they have them.
You would know all about that.

I'm sure I do know more about the true gifts than you do. And I can also discern fake gifts a mile away!

 

[CharismaticLady]

I would offer there is no such thing a second manifestation. Or sign gift. Spiritual unseen gifts yes.

Yes, there is two. I didn't know this for years either.

FIRST: (born again)
To apostles: John 17 when Jesus breathed on them to receive the Spirit.
To 120 followers: Acts of the Apostles 2 when they spake in tongues (praise to God).

SECOND: (ministry)
To apostles: Acts 2 when they received the gifts to minister.
To 120 followers: Acts of the Apostles 4:29-31 when they received the signs and wonders and boldness to minister.

 

[Gary Urban]

I'm sure I do know more about the true gifts than you do. And I can also discern fake gifts a mile away!

The true ones cannot be seen.They can be spotted by believing the foundational law. Tongues is prohecy preaching the gospel .

 

[Gary Urban]

FIRST: (born again)
To apostles: John 17 when Jesus breathed on them to receive the Spirit.
To 120 followers: Acts of the Apostles 2 when they spake in tongues (praise to God).

The work has nothing to do with the apostles they are sent with the tongue of God’s prophecy it’s not Acts of the Apostles its acts of God not seen. Jesus said it’s an evil faithless generation that does seek after signs to wonder about .Wondering is not believing the word of prophecy but looking to create a sign .

SECOND: (ministry)To apostles: Acts 2 when they received the gifts to minister.
To 120 followers: Acts of the Apostles 4:29-31 when they received the signs and wonders and boldness to minister

Still the first, the ones that received it they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God Tongue prophecy with boldness

No weekly fill up needed. Receiving the end of their born again faith from the beginning just like any believer. No strange fire as an oral tradition of men allowed

Acts 4 :29-31 And now, Lord, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word, By stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus. And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness

It filled the old tesetemnet saints also..

1 Peter1:9-11 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

No outward sign needed walk by faith. Rest in His finshed work

 

[Behold]

Not all who claim Christ have the mind of Christ, but only those who have actually been born again and are being saved.

The mind of Christ is not automatic.
Your mind is not born again.....Your spirit is born again.
If you received Christ's Mind when you are born again, you'd not be told to renew it.

 

[Behold]

I'm sure I do know more about the true gifts than you do. And I can also discern fake gifts a mile away!

Discern this for us, by answer these questions.

Did the Holy Spirit tell you to ask Christian men about their sex lives, or do you do it because you enjoy it?

 

[CharismaticLady]

The mind of Christ is not automatic.
Your mind is not born again.....Your spirit is born again.
If you received Christ's Mind when you are born again, you'd not be told to renew it.

Actually the mind IS born again when your spirit is. The renewing of our mind is going from the unsaved old man to the born again new man. Not everyone who goes to church and knows about Jesus is actually born again with a renewed mind. Only those who follow after the Spirit and are righteous.

Romans 12:1-2
I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.

Ephesians 4:
20 But you have not so learned Christ, 21 if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus: 22 that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, 23 and be renewed in the spirit of your mind, 24 and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness.

2 Peter 1:4
4 by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Discern this for us, by answer these questions.

Did the Holy Spirit tell you to ask Christian men about their sex lives, or do you do it because you enjoy it?

Thank you for asking.

I do it because it is necessary for men, especially, to be leaders in their families and from the pulpit. The Church is in crisis because of the filth they watch, and causes them to do.

How many fathers are with the mother(s) and his kids?

I am more than just a woman, and I care passionately, and am afraid for the Church in these last days.

 

[Behold]

Actually the mind IS born again when your spirit is. .

Neither your mind nor your body is born again.
Only your dead spirit.
So, once again, your teaching is New Testament denying, deception.

 

[Behold]

Thank you for asking.
I do it because it is necessary for men,

You do it because you have issues, that pretending to be spiritual is not going to solve.
That you admit that you feel a personal need to talk to born again males about their sex life in Public, is a shame to you, and is a revelation of your unsound mind's purpose.
That you can't even realize this, and continue to manifest open pride about this personal carnality, is carnally depraved behavior.

Deeply deceived People like you, start false innuendo in a Church, carnal gossip, and it ends up splitting a church and ruining it.
That's what you are, that is the definition of your Christianity.

 

[Gary Urban]

Neither your mind nor your body is born again.
Only your dead spirit.
So, once again, your teaching is New Testament denying, deception.

Yes a dead spirit that lacks the power of the new mind

 

[CharismaticLady]

Neither your mind nor your body is born again.
Only your dead spirit.
So, once again, your teaching is New Testament denying, deception.

Those who are born again have been given the mind of Christ. Our mind directs our NATURE. So in order for our nature to be born again, the mind has to be.

Behold, I hope you grasp this important doctrine of the New Covenant. It is the whole reason Jesus came - to make us like Him. That includes our mind. Only our body must die and be made immortal at the resurrection.

 

[Gary Urban]

Actually the mind IS born again when your spirit is. The renewing of our mind is going from the unsaved old man to the born again new man. Not everyone who goes to church and knows about Jesus is actually born again with a renewed mind. Only those who follow after the Spirit and are righteous.

Romans 12:1-2
I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.

Ephesians 4:
20 But you have not so learned Christ, 21 if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus: 22 that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, 23 and be renewed in the spirit of your mind, 24 and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness.

2 Peter 1:4
4 by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

I would agree but leave the church or assembly out. They are not a source of faith .

We walk by faith (the unseen) Faith of Christ comes by hearing the Spirit of the church as it is written .The church is made up (sects) when two or three gather together under the power of all things writen in the law and prophets . Two makes a family or a nation. God is the father of all nations.

Two or three or two or three thousand does not change the government ( the work of the father and Son ) when people gather together .No strength in numbers . God does not number rather than have us walk by faith