What is a Liberal Christian?

[Addy]

And that is just before breakfast. After breakfast, you will find......

Can't wait... LOL

 

[quietthinker]

What is a Liberal Christian?
I suppose they're not tight fisted with the Good News!

 

[Truman]

And yet, they're not the ones who condemned me for being a chronically ill Christian.
The conservatives labelled me a lazy, lying, dope addict.
This destroyed my family.
They used me for my music gifting, slandered me and prophesied lies to get what maybe should've come to me.
Our God is holy, and I love Him for that, but we can't lose sight of the fact that we're all sinners.
My doctor is a liberal Christian. He is the only one who didn't abandon me during my sickest years.
I wouldn't have survived without him. I thank God for him.

 

[CadyandZoe]

How could someone be a Christian without believing in these things. God is spirit, supernatural. Jesus rose from the dead, performed miracles.


Again, how could one not pray and be a Christian. Through prayer we have a relationship with God. No prayer, no relationship, no change, no improvement.
I am sure that some who claim they are Christians may believe these things, wear Marxist lenses ... communism ... everyone is equal in every way. We are not equal in this world. Those who are in Christ are spiritually equal. Though it even states that some will get more rewards in heaven than others - that's not equal.

This very question was being raised at the time. How can someone be a Christian and not believe the basic tenets of Christian teaching? Good question.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Hmm. That's interesting. Thanks for sharing your research.

What I had in mind was a time during the late 19th century when American Protestantism fractured into two parts: a conservative branch and a liberal branch and the definitions of "conservative" and "liberal" centered on the question of the inerrancy of the Bible. During that time, Christian Parents were sending their kids off to college and university, only to find that their children had lost their faith. This was due in part to a shift in higher education away from the humanities and toward science and engineering.

Thus, during that time, Christian Fundamentalism was born, which was a movement to teach and defend the fundamentals of the Christian faith in a world that was quickly rejecting faith and the Bible as a means to truth. Also during that time, other "Christians" were attempting to integrate science into the faith and in part, rejected the supernatural and everything that comes with it including God's revelation and his message to mankind. These folks began to adopt the progressive and humanitarian philosophies to suggest that man is basically and fundamentally good. The good news message of salvation was replaced with the emphasis on education as the means to human human fulfillment.

I think you brought up some excellent points.
Half of Christianity accept Theistic
Evolution. And I do think Catholics are more in line with this view - even the Pope. The Theory of Evolution has polluted our schools
for a good part of the 20th century. Prayer was taken out of the schools in the early 60's. So being this strong force pushing against Creationism, a compromise developed, Theistic Evolution. They believe God started things out and then let evolution take its course. A marriage of sorts - an unholy alliance with junk science.
Genesis doesn't support that view, so they had to misinterpret it to the point where you can't really take it literally. When you allow Genesis to be distorted, manipulated to conform to a junk science like the TOE and it's relative TE, then the rest of the Bible is up for grabs. You can begin questioning whether homosexuality is really against God's plan and purpose, abortion, fornication, adultery, etc. White lies are okay, stealing small things from work, using and manipulating people for a profeit. Rules and laws were made to be bent right? Bit then more crucial issues come up. Were miracles really true? Did Christ really rise from the dead?
Any commandment becomes questionable and they begin to challenge it. It is rebelliousness against God. It is sin to change and distort the meaning of the Bible or to add or subtract from it.
So this liberalism is this form of rebelliousness to push against God's truth, to be free from and break away from the rules, the way, because it doesn't work with their way. Why not be honest and say you don't believe in what the Bible says? Liberalism is compromising every single truth and way that God intended for us.
You cannot just pick and choose the scriptures that work for your life and discard or distort the rest. You must receive all of God's Word.
Liberalism is just doing whatever the heck you want to do - your free and then of course since God started things out and let mankind go - its up to us to call the shots, progress towards humanity's idea of Utopia.
BAD IDEA!

 

[Wrangler]

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

As an avid reader of all points of view to make sure I can give a well rounded answer to questions, a liberal christiasn is usually one who does not place much value on what the scripture teaches.

They are by and large in favour of the latest fad that is going around.
They seem to subscribe to the mantra we must be loving and accepting without clarifying what they mean by that.
They usually suppoprt homosexual rights especially their right to lead churches and marry each other.
They usually do not consider homosexuality a sin.
They usually do not consider anything sin.
They usually consider conservative christians as the devil incarnate.
They usually twist the scriptures to mean what they want it to mean.
They usually parrot what the world says about the conservative church.
They usually prefer leaders that are not born again, just religious.
They usually cannot support their claims from scripture.
They usually do not believe that Jesus Christ is Lord.
They usually believe that the final authority is the church (theirs), not the scriptures.
They will often employ a lesbian to run the church.
They will often march in homosexual pride (sic) marches.
They will often condemn people who tell the truth about homosexuality.
They will often side with homosexuals against conservative churches.
They will often fight for the right to abortion (baby killing).
Thery will often get involved in fad movements and marches that oppose anything conservative.
They will often preach love but display hate if you disagree with them.
They will often adopt the language of people opposed to anything conservative.
They will often get upset if you challenge their interpretation of the truth.
Their religion is a convenience, not a lifestlye.

And that is just before breakfast. After breakfast, you will find......

It's about turning the whole social order upside down on it's head.

I am not against people having rights to an abortion but I am against abortion on demand for no good reason. there are many things involved in such for women just in complications etc for a start. so I am not on the side of ignorance as in the regards as that the Socialist will claim that Christians stance is to must have the baby regardless with no regards to the woman with child at all.
Doctor says look you are going to have great complications or die, the child is going to be a spastic, deformed never to be a functioning human ever etc etc one is to old is another that problems are increased that such is ignorance.
And I am certainly not for back yard abortions at all. that was dreadful that people had to go to such lengths.
The socialist make out that Christians are all ignorant on the issue and that's how they have got the upper hand that they think Christians are being just stupid and totally ignorant.
It's the same with gay issues, they think Christians are stupid and ignorant so they just dismiss Christians totally, we have been set up ! so our voice is worthless let alone you will be jailed for bring a issue up. you have no rights to the subject anymore at all.

 

[marksman]

It's about turning the whole social order upside down on it's head.

I am not against people having rights to an abortion but I am against abortion on demand for no good reason. there are many things involved in such for women just in complications etc for a start. so I am not on the side of ignorance as in the regards as that the Socialist will claim that Christians stance is to must have the baby regardless with no regards to the woman with child at all.
Doctor says look you are going to have great complications or die, the child is going to be a spastic, deformed never to be a functioning human ever etc etc one is to old is another that problems are increased that such is ignorance.
And I am certainly not for back yard abortions at all. that was dreadful that people had to go to such lengths.
The socialist make out that Christians are all ignorant on the issue and that's how they have got the upper hand that they think Christians are being just stupid and totally ignorant.
It's the same with gay issues, they think Christians are stupid and ignorant so they just dismiss Christians totally, we have been set up ! so our voice is worthless let alone you will be jailed for bring a issue up. you have no rights to the subject anymore at all.

So right in many ways. I read recently of a father in Canada who was sent to jail because he would not agree to his son getting puberty blockers.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

So right in many ways. I read recently of a father in Canada who was sent to jail because he would not agree to his son getting puberty blockers.

A mother of dad of a child have authority over their children until they are 16yo, so if one was to reject such as puberty blockers, they would have every right to do so by law.
I think it was NSW that started this off first and is the worst offender as to this regard in Australia, I was at a forum where a child psychologist was talking all about such things and the shocking state of what is truly going on nowadays with such and who is behind it all. he was 65yo and did not care if he was kicked out of his job for going against the powers that be. he even pointed out examples as to how he fixed the problems with such things.

 

[marksman]

A mother of dad of a child have authority over their children until they are 16yo, so if one was to reject such as puberty blockers, they would have every right to do so by law.
I think it was NSW that started this off first and is the worst offender as to this regard in Australia, I was at a forum where a child psychologist was talking all about such things and the shocking state of what is truly going on nowadays with such and who is behind it all. he was 65yo and did not care if he was kicked out of his job for going against the powers that be. he even pointed out examples as to how he fixed the problems with such things.

I am not sure this is gospel but it seems to me that this whole transgender thing is going to unravel as the truth comes out. More and more professional are kicking back at the demands made on them to turn children into the opposite sex. They have seen that after going through puberty what you are not is not such a good idea.

And not to mention all those who were transgendered are trying to unravel the stupidity of it all.

 

[marksman]

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I think you brought up some excellent points.
Half of Christianity accept Theistic
Evolution. And I do think Catholics are more in line with this view - even the Pope. The Theory of Evolution has polluted our schools
for a good part of the 20th century. Prayer was taken out of the schools in the early 60's. So being this strong force pushing against Creationism, a compromise developed, Theistic Evolution. They believe God started things out and then let evolution take its course. A marriage of sorts - an unholy alliance with junk science.
Genesis doesn't support that view, so they had to misinterpret it to the point where you can't really take it literally. When you allow Genesis to be distorted, manipulated to conform to a junk science like the TOE and it's relative TE, then the rest of the Bible is up for grabs. You can begin questioning whether homosexuality is really against God's plan and purpose, abortion, fornication, adultery, etc. White lies are okay, stealing small things from work, using and manipulating people for a profeit. Rules and laws were made to be bent right? Bit then more crucial issues come up. Were miracles really true? Did Christ really rise from the dead?
Any commandment becomes questionable and they begin to challenge it. It is rebelliousness against God. It is sin to change and distort the meaning of the Bible or to add or subtract from it.
So this liberalism is this form of rebelliousness to push against God's truth, to be free from and break away from the rules, the way, because it doesn't work with their way. Why not be honest and say you don't believe in what the Bible says? Liberalism is compromising every single truth and way that God intended for us.
You cannot just pick and choose the scriptures that work for your life and discard or distort the rest. You must receive all of God's Word.
Liberalism is just doing whatever the heck you want to do - your free and then of course since God started things out and let mankind go - its up to us to call the shots, progress towards humanity's idea of Utopia.
BAD IDEA!

On a personal note, I made a visit to the local branch of the Metropolitan Community Church which is run by homosexuals and lesbians and who justify sin. The lesbian in charge that day was all dolled up in her regalia and she went through the bastardised version of the Anglican service. It was like being in an empty tomb. Dead and lifeless.

Afterwards refreshments were served and I was very aware that a young man was stalking me and wanting to get me into bed. Being a first time visitor he didn't know me so I was fair game.

 

[Addy]

n a personal note, I made a visit to the local branch of the Metropolitan Community Church which is run by homosexuals and lesbians and who justify sin. The lesbian in charge that day was all dolled up in her regalia and she went through the bastardised version of the Anglican service. It was like being in an empty tomb. Dead and lifeless.

Afterwards refreshments were served and I was very aware that a young man was stalking me and wanting to get me into bed. Being a first time visitor he didn't know me so I was fair game.

Why would you even bother to attend a church that is clearly going against scripture ?? Here in Canada.. we have the United Church... and in the city where I live... the pastor is a married lesbian... they also perform gay weddings... I would never step foot in this kind of place. Then again... there are many churches I would not step foot in.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

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On a personal note, I made a visit to the local branch of the Metropolitan Community Church which is run by homosexuals and lesbians and who justify sin. The lesbian in charge that day was all dolled up in her regalia and she went through the bastardised version of the Anglican service. It was like being in an empty tomb. Dead and lifeless.

Afterwards refreshments were served and I was very aware that a young man was stalking me and wanting to get me into bed. Being a first time visitor he didn't know me so I was fair game.

I think I remember seeing a Metropolitan Church in Los Angeles. They delete Rom. 1;26-27 or interpret it another way. To them the judgment against Sodom and Gomorrah had nothing to do with homosexuals, "they were just sinners in general". Homosexuality wasn't their only sin but when Lot had to discourage his male neighbors from wanting to have sex with His guests ( who were angels) by offering his daughters instead gives is an example of their nature.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

I don't really understand the term 'liberal Christian' but to me it means tolerance rather than finger pointing. I means not banging people on the head with scripture. It means not adhering to religious rules and doctrines which are man-made. It means loving and caring and looking at the good in people. Of course that may not really answer the OP but it what I thought of when I saw it.

Sounds like a defensive posture.
Okay, let's just look at your first statement, tolerance. That is an honest true assessment. Where do you draw the line though? Are you tolerant about abortion, Gay Marriage, adultery, partying with drugs, getting drunk, foul language, etc. There are levels of tolerance, and as you say we are all sinners, so we need not judge lest we be judged. Where does God draw line is the question? It seems he tolerates all of it until He says enough and judges them. How tolerant will Judgment Day be for sinners? ZERO. The world will advance to the precipise, a point where His tolerance comes to an end and billions will be destroyed.
So with that in mind, we don't literally beat people over the head with our Bibles, we simply share the gospel, the Good News. What is the Good News? The Good News is that those who believe that Jesus died for our sins and rose on the third day will not have to suffer the penalty for their sins and get tossed into the Lake of Fire and destroyed.
The wages of sin is death.
I speak up against sin, I don't tolerate it and don't want to be around it. God's Word speaks against sin. We all get an idea of what sin is from the Ten Commandments.
Maybe liberals feel that just because Jesus died for our sins, they can go and continue to sin it up. The extreme liberal tolerance is allowing anything and everything - whatever floats your boat and then of course they hold to their concept of God as Love only, Who is all merciful, all forgiving and so everyone will be saved (Universalism). So it would'nt even matter what religion or no religion you hold onto - your in. This gives you lots of freedom - total liberation from constraints, rules, authority of any kind.
The funny thing about tolerance is that too much tolerance allows for the negative intolerant to cancel out someone else's positive intolerance. So one may be tolerant of Socialism even Communism and in turn that Communism becomes intolerant with Christianity. In the end tolerance ends up destroying what is good.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I am not sure this is gospel but it seems to me that this whole transgender thing is going to unravel as the truth comes out. More and more professional are kicking back at the demands made on them to turn children into the opposite sex. They have seen that after going through puberty what you are not is not such a good idea.

And not to mention all those who were transgendered are trying to unravel the stupidity of it all.

The tragedy of it all will come out and people will be shocked and in horror as to what is truly going on nowadays, but the thing is the MSM are hiding all such in depth reality's from the public, not to mention political powers are actively Nazi like threating all who would speak out on such matters openly on any form of the subject that they will just shut such a one down directly. freedom of speech is undermined, now I ask myself why is it that nowadays we have all this Nazi type of lording over subject matter. one day the majority may wake up out of their pig ignorance and understand that the works of Satanist are corrupting them. as the fact of the matter is that they are in fact actively bastardising people.

Will we be able to wake the masses up in time ? No not at all, it's a done deal, just as it was when the Russians became Communist and the Germans became Nazis, because no one could stop them, by the time the village idiot knew they were dominated, it was too late and if you voice an opinion you were regarded as an enemy of the State.

The Communist and Nazis had the Media on their side backing them up full on all the way, did you school teach you the fundamentals of such in History ? why ! that's the question I asked but that was not the point that the schooling system was interested in at all.
How did such take power and why ?
What motivated the people to follow along ?
Why, why why was the questions that I asked, but was fobbed off with nonsense that I was not interested in at all or hated or bored me. what date this or that, C'mon !

I just seen a show called, Trump takes on the world. part one.
How pathetic are all the people on the show Morons who don't have a clue about reality, they live in a bubble, snowflakes ! they could never run a business themselves because they are only follower types, dupes who look around and just go along with the flow of who they see as the majority in their circles, they can not truly think for themselves, I had a good mate who was just like that, he was a Bank loans manager, he knew nothing much of business in the real world, my business mates who knew him well he thought the world ends as he knew it outside of the city. he thought out in the country the laws were all Boss Hog stuff and would not drive on a dirt road, must of thought such was the edge of the world and may fall off. talk about ignorant of reality's.
That's what such people are like 5year olds demented ones at that, the old French dude on the show is totally deranged 5yo at that, thinking that he is going to work around a Man ! old French character only exposed himself through his such cunning sly stealth. someone like that I would not give the time of day.
They clearly do not give a rats about anyone but collude like filthy rats among themselves in a club that's clearly ripping off the majority and leading them astray.

 

[marksman]

Why would you even bother to attend a church that is clearly going against scripture ?? Here in Canada.. we have the United Church... and in the city where I live... the pastor is a married lesbian... they also perform gay weddings... I would never step foot in this kind of place. Then again... there are many churches I would not step foot in.

I was on a fact finding mission for the christian ministry that I worked for. Rather than going on hearsay, I decided the best thing to do was to get real evidence so I went into the lion's den.

 

[marksman]

I think I remember seeing a Metropolitan Church in Los Angeles. They delete Rom. 1;26-27 or interpret it another way. To them the judgment against Sodom and Gomorrah had nothing to do with homosexuals, "they were just sinners in general". Homosexuality wasn't their only sin but when Lot had to discourage his male neighbors from wanting to have sex with His guests ( who were angels) by offering his daughters instead gives is an example of their nature.

I believe they use the Queen Janes Version of the Bible. It contains the gospel according to homosexuals.

 

[marksman]

Hmmmm....... Interesting how some from both sides of politics are calling each other facists.

Fascism is generally defined as a political movement that embraces far-right nationalism and the forceful suppression of any opposition, all overseen by an authoritarian government.

This seems to be the most common explanation of fascism. One has to look at the origins of the term and how it came about. Basically it was a revolt against communism and totalitarianism. Today it is a revolt against neo marxism and totalitarianism so in that sense it is a far right movement today as it was before.

The background to it is not much different to what it was previously. The main difference is the neo marxists are not using guns to control the world they are using words and the silencing of people that disagree with them. Hence political correctness, cancel culture and things like the dominance of homosexuality which is a protected species and considered normal and those that do not agree are bigoted, hateful and homophobic.

One of their main weapons is the word hate. If you disagree with them you hate them. Whereas in fact the words spoken are not hate by any stretch of the imagination. They are usually words they hate because they are the truth. That is because homosexuality is one big lie and if you are homosexual you are living a lie so you don't want to hear the truth.

Frteedom of speech is integral to this and the neo marxists will suppport such as long as you agree with them. If you don't, you are to be silenced hence political correctness and the cancel culture. That is why there is no longer freedom of speech on universities. The neo marxists have taken the long march through the universities and they now control thoughts and words and if a lecturer wants to keep their job they have to toe the line.

I have discovered over the years that controlling words is far more dangerous than using guns. I have always fought back against the lies of homosexulality and as a result they throw up all sorts of brain dead claims that do not have a skerrick of truth in them but as I counter with fact after fact after fact which I have collected over the last 30 years they often back down because they realise that they are talking to someone who did not come down in the last shower.

I have noticed they are so devoid of fact all they can do is parrot the same lies over and over and over again. That is until I point out it is a lie and the evidence for same and then and only then do they back track.

One of the classic ones is that there is homosexuality in 1500 species of animals, which is total rubbish. When I tell them that I have seen numerous documentaries that show the alpha male ALWAYS fights to have control over sex in the tribe with females and not one shows any fights to have the rights for sex with other males they realise the stupidity of their claim.

You would think that if homosexuality was normal in 1500 species at least one documantary would show a fight for same sex sex. None, zilch, doesn't happen.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Fascism is generally defined as a political movement that embraces far-right nationalism and the forceful suppression of any opposition, all overseen by an authoritarian government.

This seems to be the most common explanation of fascism. One has to look at the origins of the term and how it came about. Basically it was a revolt against communism and totalitarianism. Today it is a revolt against neo marxism and totalitarianism so in that sense it is a far right movement today as it was before.

The background to it is not much different to what it was previously. The main difference is the neo marxists are not using guns to control the world they are using words and the silencing of people that disagree with them. Hence political correctness, cancel culture and things like the dominance of homosexuality which is a protected species and considered normal and those that do not agree are bigoted, hateful and homophobic.

One of their main weapons is the word hate. If you disagree with them you hate them. Whereas in fact the words spoken are not hate by any stretch of the imagination. They are usually words they hate because they are the truth. That is because homosexuality is one big lie and if you are homosexual you are living a lie so you don't want to hear the truth.

Frteedom of speech is integral to this and the neo marxists will suppport such as long as you agree with them. If you don't, you are to be silenced hence political correctness and the cancel culture. That is why there is no longer freedom of speech on universities. The neo marxists have taken the long march through the universities and they now control thoughts and words and if a lecturer wants to keep their job they have to toe the line.

I have discovered over the years that controlling words is far more dangerous than using guns. I have always fought back against the lies of homosexulality and as a result they throw up all sorts of brain dead claims that do not have a skerrick of truth in them but as I counter with fact after fact after fact which I have collected over the last 30 years they often back down because they realise that they are talking to someone who did not come down in the last shower.

I have noticed they are so devoid of fact all they can do is parrot the same lies over and over and over again. That is until I point out it is a lie and the evidence for same and then and only then do they back track.

One of the classic ones is that there is homosexuality in 1500 species of animals, which is total rubbish. When I tell them that I have seen numerous documentaries that show the alpha male ALWAYS fights to have control over sex in the tribe with females and not one shows any fights to have the rights for sex with other males they realise the stupidity of their claim.

You would think that if homosexuality was normal in 1500 species at least one documantary would show a fight for same sex sex. None, zilch, doesn't happen.

Even if there was such a thing among animals - we are not animals.
I have seen male dogs humping other male dogs in excitement, but there is no sodomy, it's similar to one humping your leg, their dorm of masturbation I guess. I don't think animals would allow sodomy - they have instinctively been designed, programmed by God to mate with the opposite sex and even they know the purpose of their anus. But when they are young, they may get excited and confused.
Kids get confused too, start experimenting with homosexuality and are confused, misguided and lack understanding of God's purpose. I ha e read that 95% of gays have either no relationship with their Dads or a bad one. Absence of the father leads to much trouble. Anyways, don't want to derail this thread, the question is about general Liberal Christianity.
Liberation, freedom from constraints, rules and authority can be misconstrued with Liberty as in our Constitution with all the freedoms and rights. But the law of the land should never conflict with God's Law and purpose for mankind.
The truth will set us free from the wages of sin, which is death, but it does not set us free from God's Law. We are not saved by the Law, but we still need to be obedient to it. We aren't given a free pass to do whatever we want. So our rights, freedoms always need to be in alignment with the Word.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Fascism is generally defined as a political movement that embraces far-right nationalism and the forceful suppression of any opposition, all overseen by an authoritarian government.

This seems to be the most common explanation of fascism. One has to look at the origins of the term and how it came about. Basically it was a revolt against communism and totalitarianism. Today it is a revolt against neo marxism and totalitarianism so in that sense it is a far right movement today as it was before.

The background to it is not much different to what it was previously. The main difference is the neo marxists are not using guns to control the world they are using words and the silencing of people that disagree with them. Hence political correctness, cancel culture and things like the dominance of homosexuality which is a protected species and considered normal and those that do not agree are bigoted, hateful and homophobic.

One of their main weapons is the word hate. If you disagree with them you hate them. Whereas in fact the words spoken are not hate by any stretch of the imagination. They are usually words they hate because they are the truth. That is because homosexuality is one big lie and if you are homosexual you are living a lie so you don't want to hear the truth.

Frteedom of speech is integral to this and the neo marxists will suppport such as long as you agree with them. If you don't, you are to be silenced hence political correctness and the cancel culture. That is why there is no longer freedom of speech on universities. The neo marxists have taken the long march through the universities and they now control thoughts and words and if a lecturer wants to keep their job they have to toe the line.

I have discovered over the years that controlling words is far more dangerous than using guns. I have always fought back against the lies of homosexulality and as a result they throw up all sorts of brain dead claims that do not have a skerrick of truth in them but as I counter with fact after fact after fact which I have collected over the last 30 years they often back down because they realise that they are talking to someone who did not come down in the last shower.

I have noticed they are so devoid of fact all they can do is parrot the same lies over and over and over again. That is until I point out it is a lie and the evidence for same and then and only then do they back track.

One of the classic ones is that there is homosexuality in 1500 species of animals, which is total rubbish. When I tell them that I have seen numerous documentaries that show the alpha male ALWAYS fights to have control over sex in the tribe with females and not one shows any fights to have the rights for sex with other males they realise the stupidity of their claim.

You would think that if homosexuality was normal in 1500 species at least one documantary would show a fight for same sex sex. None, zilch, doesn't happen.

How does one cope or deal with Marxism and Totalitarianism of today ? it's a war that we are loosing to very badly, because the majority are not truly educated on such subjects. they do not understand what freedom is truly about or they misunderstand what true freedom truly is in fact, they mistake freedom for licence.

I seen the top cop in our State go to jail and when he came out he was still a total moron, why is that, well what I could evaluate from him was, well he thought everything was just licence, he had no morality ? he claimed that if a Law was stated then that was it ? what I gathered from him was like, such as if one passed a law to shoot people who were whatever he would act on it just because it was the Law. he had no true moral compass at all in himself. so that's why he was corrupt, he must think that all things are fine as long as you don't get caught out doing so. Maybe he is Autistic ?
When I talk to people who are supporters of all things Gay? I find they have no true moral base, it's just made up from social circles. so I thought hey ! so this type of people must be like the percentage of rat bags in Hitler's Germany etc that do the bidding of what ever Government, without question. they follow along like duped moths to the flame. they do not think past their own shallowness. they don't truly care about God or Nation, let alone understand why Jesus was really killed, they claim that it was the Romans who killed Jesus or that it was the Jews that had Jesus killed, No it was Sin that was responsible, the Stain of Original Sin on us all is truly what crucified Jesus. what a curse we all have ! and that's why it's of the greatest importance of above everything in the world that we become truly born again of the Holy Spirit, or we are doomed to be a curse on all people. this is the key problem and we as a people will not progress at all until we do. other than that ones position is all to do about filthy rags.