What is Predetermined?

[quietthinker]

God could save everyone if He wanted to.

Proverbs 16:4 (NKJV)
4 The LORD has made all for Himself, Yes, even the wicked for the day of doom.

He does want. People however have a different agenda.

 

[kcnalp]

He does want. People however have a different agenda.

If God wanted to save everyone they would be saved.

 

[quietthinker]

If God wanted to save everyone they would be saved.

love forces nothing!

 

[kcnalp]

love forces nothing!

You seem to be at a loss for Scripture. Have you even read about Pharaoh whom God hardened Pharaoh's heart?

Exodus 9:12 (KJV)
12 And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not unto them;

 

[quietthinker]

You seem to be at a loss for Scripture. Have you even read about Pharaoh whom God hardened Pharaoh's heart?

Exodus 9:12 (KJV)
12 And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not unto them;

Does Jesus say 'whosoever will' and then harden their hearts so they refuse him?....hmmm

 

[kcnalp]

Does Jesus say 'whosoever will' and then harden their hearts so they refuse him?....hmmm

Is Jesus God? Can anyone tell Him what to do?

Daniel 4:35 (NKJV)
35 All the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing; He does according to His will in the army of heaven And among the inhabitants of the earth. No one can restrain His hand Or say to Him, "What have You done?"

 

[robert derrick]

What is Predetermined?
My run to the bathroom first thing in the morning!

What is Predetermined?
My run to the bathroom first thing in the morning!

If we obey Him in and with the heart, we will be conformed to the image of His righteousness and true holiness.

And so figs and prunes are believe and obey.

If we don't obey Him, we are hearers only, and are not the elect foreknown from the beginning.

It takes both figs and prunes, and not just figs only.

 

[GodsGrace]

I can agree with work, but for love of the other person?

There be plenty who certainly disagree with that.

I am learning on this sight to not take things personal nor to make them personal, but doctrinal only:

Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath.

If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

Being disagreed with and even accused is no problem, because if I am honestly corrected, then I am the better for it.

But I do wrestle greatly with being disrespected by disagreements or accusations that have no substance for correction.

I.e. I am learning not to engage personally with those that only have their feelings hurt, and they don't really even know why, other than what they trust in is being challenged.

YOUR love of the other person.
We're supposed to post in love of the other person...not all do this.
We all get upset once in a while, but it's not supposed to be a habit.
We ARE to respect each other's opinion and posting personally can be dangerous.
It's difficult to know how persons really are on these sites.
Just keep doing what you're doing...