What is The Great Delusion?

[bbyrd009]

No one asks, is it me, Lord?

Ya, when it should be pretty obv from the context that it is, "me."
well, once one figures out that they seek a literal Jesus to wear a literal crown, and might even try to coerce Jesus into taking the crown by force, a la Judas, anyway

 

[Davy]

For the Serious Bible Student:

This thread really isn't looking to answer what Paul's "strong delusion" of 2 Thessalonians 2 means. It is instead serving as a Po-perie containing wild guesses, and the more entertaining the answer, the better more accepted response.

 

[farouk]

Hi farouk,

The so-called Mandela Effect is remembering events in a way that is markedly different from what really happened. It was named as such by some woman (I forget her name) who, in the 1980s thought she remembered that Nelson Mandela was dead (when he was very much alive at the time). Psychologists also call it the false memory effect. It is essentially, one's mind playing tricks. Is it the beginning of the mass delusion that the Bible says that God will send to those who belong to the world?

Thanks for the explanation. Romans 1 speaks of people being given up to pursue their own lusts.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Neither was Noah, or Lot, or the Church. The people who will be "taken away" are the wicked. The rest of us will enter the Millennial Kingdom. :)

As far as being "surprised", there is ONE group which WILL be SURPRISED:

1 Thess. 5:3 When people say, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as travail comes upon a woman with child, and there will be no escape. 4 But you are not in darkness, brethren, for that day to surprise you like a thief.​

Scripture suggests that Jesus will return in 2 1/2 years. So where approximately 60% of the Jews perished in the Holocaust, I expect the same for the sleeping church. I just don't plan to be part of that number. :)


With Best Regards,
Bobby Jo

Was it truly an Holocaust ? a burnt offering ? or is that just another brainwashing tec that have been peddled.
I would say that if one was to claim such was a Holocaust, a burnt offering ? then that is claiming that such was God's will ?

Now who is it that's claiming that it was an holocaust ? the Zionist Talmud are who peddle this rot, then it was them who created the whole thing right from the start of WW2 and the evidence is their, if one bothers to look, Rothschild and his Satanist created it all and it sticks out like dogs balls to me, they had to kill the majority of true Jews, because this lot of Jews in Germany were the best educated having a true handle on the OT and could point out the threat that the Zionist truly were, so the plan was to kill 6 million of them and this was planed years before and newspapers were claiming 6 million Jews were going to be killed in the years before it, this was well known among Jews because the Jews were arguing amongst themselves on the issues and the so called Zionist backed by Rothschild had to put the plan into action because they were the number one threat, the goyim were not a threat because they were to stupid to understand such things nor did they care. so they brought this bastard Zionist Jew Hitler out to become the leader and he was put into that position, if you bother to look into how he got into power you can see that it's a joke, the powers that be helped put him their but only put on a front that they were not doing such.
Hitler always used ranting and raving like a total moron to hide behind being exposed, putting fear into anyone who challenge him and he worked to bring destruction on Germany, all through the war that bastard did the stupidest things that got Germans killed or worked to shafted them. the Germans Army could of easy wiped out England and France but he sent the Germans out to die in Russia, it was planned no one could be so stupid to take on Russia that time of year like that, it's just moronic.

No Hitler was a Zionist Jew working for Rothschild and the 6 million true Jews killed was truly genocide, it was a work of Satanic men, not God at all and it's not Holocaust as only a Satanist would say such a stupid thing, because it's an offering and sure I agree that to a Satanist they would call it a Holocaust because they were offering this up to Satan.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

It's the work of Satanist that create all such delusions, how is it that most do not understand what a bunt offering is ?

Such claiming that them Jews were offered up as a burnt offering ?

Talk about delusions ! why is it that people are so ignorant of such, that they can say that it was a Holocaust and get away with says such stupid load of crap.

It was Genocide ! for crying out loud, it was not a burnt offering to God at all.

It's the Talmud Whore that must be exposed for what it truly is in fact.

All fools think that the Talmud is Jewish but the fact is that it's not truly Jewish at all, this pox crept in and worked to destroy and it did destroy OT Israel and Judah and the same works of great delusions are destroying Christianity.

Go study the Talmud books I say, but no one will bother, because they are under such great delusions, so that they will not bother because they are totally happy to be living in ignorance.

Not to mention all will be going to Hell because they are leading others into hell following the great Satan idolising the Talmud Whore claiming that such is Israel.

What is happening nowadays is the abandoning of Jesus Christ for the Talmud whore.

Fact is that they are abandoning Jesus for idolising a great Whore that they are claiming as Jewish, fact is that Holy Moses pointed such bastards out, so how can such claim to be Jewish if they don't abide in Holy Moses.

Just because on claims to be Jewish or Christian does not make it truly so, as Jesus pointed out, I never knew them or that they were of their father the Devil murders from the beginning.

 

[Bobby Jo]

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Was it truly an Holocaust ? a burnt offering ? or is that just another brainwashing tec that have been peddled.
...

By all appearances, it would seem you've come unhinged. :)


Bobby Jo

 

[stunnedbygrace]

That's pretty funny...

 

[Bobby Jo]

That's pretty funny...

Actually it's more common that one might expect. The difference is that apparently some people have a shortage of mirrors.
Self reflection might be the first step to any cure. :)

Bobby Jo

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Oh my gosh you crack me up...!

 

[Bobby Jo]

Oh my gosh you crack me up...!

You belie the seriousness of the day we live in:

"Here is a call for the endurance and faith of the saints."

and​

"Here is a call for the endurance of the saints"

​

This ain't no picnic, and it ain't no party. But if you think otherwise, -- Good Luck.
Bobby Jo

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

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By all appearances, it would seem you've come unhinged. :)


Bobby Jo

What is it that you do not understand about the difference of a Holocaust in such being Burnt offering.

If one claims such as that, you are saying that God was the one who did the deed or it is saying it was an offering to God by they who claim such. do you understand that ?

Now anyone with a understanding knows that it was not God that killed the 6 million Jews.
It was a work of Satan that killed the 6 million Jews, so it's truly called a Genocide.

Anyone who claims it was a Burnt Offering (holocaust) must be of Satan. because you are supporting such was the hand of God in fact.

Just because the Satanic Media has promoted the Holocaust line, does not make it true. you see the deception and how people can be brainwashed into believing such things. it's an insult to me to hear people say that it was a Burnt offering because I don't believe it was Gods hand.

The Devil is in the detail, if you understand how Satan works.
The majority of people are being mislead on the subject and such is just another one of the great delusions that Satan plays on dilettantes.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Just as it is nowadays that the Agenda 21 is known about, the same was known about of the 6 million years before it happened as this claim had being going about for years before it took place, if one only bother to look you will find this was a fact going about in newspapers years before it happened.

When Agenda 21 truly comes about and it is and has been implemented in part, but their will be the days when it swings into action as they kill off 80% of the worlds population or what ever it is that they claim the world needs to survive, you see the climate spin you hear about is all part of the con job and if you talk to people who swallow all this rot, you can see that they are totally brainwashed with it all and will play into the hands of the Satanic deceptions, just like the Nazis did back in their days or the Communist did totally swallow the same deceptions put over them.

So one can see how such truly all works if one bothers to investigate in to such workings, as to why such things took place in history, but not many people bother to do that because they are only indoctrinated is such subjects and no truly educated in such in depth workings of all such things as to the why this and that truly happened.

It's all interesting to me too look into such things but to most people they can not handle such things or care because they are just bogans or peasants, because they only like to sit back and have another inform them or tell them what to do, because investigating into things is not their cup of tea, they would rather sit back and be entertained and just go with the flow.

So when the day comes or after it does people may ask how did that happen.
Remember when the 6 million Jews were being killed, the world only found out about this after the war you know.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I have met many people who are totally in fear for the planet, we have federal Government election coming up soon and his type are desperate to get socialism into power to save the planet. thing is the Socialist have Communism as their Salvation to dictate over the people and the people do not understand that they will just become a number, not to mention that they believe that Political Correctness is rights set in stone, fact is that Political Correctness will change like the wind as it has no foundations. fact is that anything political is never correct, it's mainly about whims and trends.

 

[Davy]

I have met many people who are totally in fear for the planet, we have federal Government election coming up soon and his type are desperate to get socialism into power to save the planet. thing is the Socialist have Communism as their Salvation to dictate over the people and the people do not understand that they will just become a number, not to mention that they believe that Political Correctness is rights set in stone, fact is that Political Correctness will change like the wind as it has no foundations. fact is that anything political is never correct, it's mainly about whims and trends.

I'll tell you something even scarier...

I had to have a Psychology elective at college, so I took a course called Cognition, which was about how the mind works, and associated human behaviors.

Some folks cannot do visualization in the mind, nor do abstract thinking. I didn't originally believe this when I read it in my textbook, but over the years, I've discovered it's true among some of my co-workers.

This amounts to a great number of people in society that 'have to be led'. They have to be told what to think, what to believe, and what to do.

Satan knows this, his children know this, those in control in this world know this. And that is why so much money, time, and effort is put into deceptions via the public schools and universities (like with evolution theory, etc.), media TV, music, and even by the religious organizational systems of men. Essentially, a lot of folks on this earth don't have a chance against being deceived by Satan and his workers unless... they stop listening to man and instead get into our Heavenly Father's Word with His help.

 

[Bobby Jo]

What is it that you do not understand about the difference of a Holocaust in such being Burnt offering. ...

I have absolutely NO CLUE how you jumped from a cited statistic that approximately 60% of the European Jews perished in the Holocaust, to your rather bizarre tangents.

What you CLEARLY miss is that GOD prepared a way of escape for the Jews to Palestine, but most apparently didn't want to leave their homes, communities, businesses, etc. So instead of heeding GOD's plan and purpose, they perished.

And my exhortation to the church is that they heed GOD's warnings about future events, and not similarly perish.


Bobby Jo

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I have absolutely NO CLUE how you jumped from a cited statistic that approximately 60% of the European Jews perished in the Holocaust, to your rather bizarre tangents.

What you CLEARLY miss is that GOD prepared a way of escape for the Jews to Palestine, but most apparently didn't want to leave their homes, communities, businesses, etc. So instead of heeding GOD's plan and purpose, they perished.

And my exhortation to the church is that they heed GOD's warnings about future events, and not similarly perish.


Bobby Jo

Do you know what a Holocaust truly is in fact ?
It's a burnt offering !
What does one do when you offer up such and who is it too ?

Over 2000 years the Jews had assimilated into the culture's of the whole world, only dribs and drabs of so called Jews existed and they were not worthy of being called Jews truly because they all had split up into different types even before Hitler's day's.
If you bothered to look into history you would know that fact and you will see that all Nations had Laws on what type of Jew they would let in and what type of Jews they would not let in and all that was hundreds of years before Hitler was even born.
Hitler's old man was a border guard and he would of been one who dealt with such things all the time.

The only real reason that the 6 million were offered up to Satan, was because the Satanic so called Jew feared the assimilated Jews and the ones who had embraced Christianity, because they were the ones who could expose the Satanic Jews for who they truly were.
So if we just look at Germany for example, you will see that most Jews had settled their over 2000 years than the rest of the world and you will see that the Jews owned more than 80% of all the Banks and also newspapers were over 80% Jewish owned, but when Hitler came to power all the Jewish news Paper company's had to become Zionist so called Jewish, but most of the Jews at the time hated the Zionist whore, because they knew what it's works truly were not Jewish at all and they hated the Talmud Whore that created this false Zionist Whore.
So they were ear marked by the Talmud Zionist Whore to be exterminated, because such was clearly the biggest threat to them Talmud mob by far. the Christians did not know the workings of the Talmud anymore than Christians know the Talmud nowadays, because they are totally ignorant of such, so they can not perceive such as, so such is out of mind out of sight, such does not exist to fools and that's were the Talmud has so much total to dominate of the Jews nowadays and the foolish so called Christians.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Sadly nowadays Christianity does not truly represent Jesus Christ, just as true Judaism is not representing Holy Moses at all.
It's the Talmud Whore that is in total control of both the Jews and the Christian denominations, the Roman Catholic Church is totally dominated by the Talmud Whore nowadays under the Satanic monster that claims to be calling himself Pope Francis.

We see all Christian denominations are dead nowadays, their is not one Church that truly in fact totally stands up for Jesus Christ, they all have their own agenda for themselves and have abandoned Jesus Christ, for this world and sadly this is a fact as they are too gutless to stand up for Jesus Christ, but run away and hide because the great Whore controls them all, Abortion ? they have dropped the issue, it's Child Sacrifice in fact ! and Moloch worship, just another one of the idolised gods that must be bowed down to nowadays, sadly the majority see his as one their gods given rights now.
Now just on this subject more child sacrifice has been carried out in the last 20 years than of all the people killed in WW2 and sadly most people are walking about nowadays proud of themselves or oblivious to their idolising of such gods.
I could go on but I will just leave it there for you.

 

[Bobby Jo]

Do you know what a Holocaust truly is in fact ?
It's a burnt offering !
...

Buddy, I don't know if you're under some type of mind altering drug, or whether you're receiving psychiatric help, but Murdering someone and then Cremating their body is nothing less that MURDER and DESECRATION of a Human Being.

Please contact your nearest mental health clinic, before you "live out" your fantasies.
Bobby Jo

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I'll tell you something even scarier...

I had to have a Psychology elective at college, so I took a course called Cognition, which was about how the mind works, and associated human behaviors.

Some folks cannot do visualization in the mind, nor do abstract thinking. I didn't originally believe this when I read it in my textbook, but over the years, I've discovered it's true among some of my co-workers.

This amounts to a great number of people in society that 'have to be led'. They have to be told what to think, what to believe, and what to do.

Satan knows this, his children know this, those in control in this world know this. And that is why so much money, time, and effort is put into deceptions via the public schools and universities (like with evolution theory, etc.), media TV, music, and even by the religious organizational systems of men. Essentially, a lot of folks on this earth don't have a chance against being deceived by Satan and his workers unless... they stop listening to man and instead get into our Heavenly Father's Word with His help.

Yes I know, you are correct in this.

The powers of Satan have increased with all the tools available nowadays that Satan can work his deceptions.
I looked into how Hitler and his game play took advantage of new tec of the day, as it worked a treat to help brainwash the people, sadly we the mas public have not learnt or been truly educated on such a subject and this has been deliberately done by our powers that be, because they do not want people to be educated but love all to be only indoctrinated simple minded fools who are lost in the wilderness so to speak.
The same game play is at hand nowadays, just as it was with the Jews back in the OT that were being lead astray.

Their only one threat to such Satanist and it's Jesus Christ, because once truly born again one has the Light too see the folly of mans works for what they truly are in fact.
Such a understanding is scary to behold the reality's of such, people are much like moths to a flame because they have no firm foundations nowadays. Satan works away at firm foundations because then people are up in the air, like floating in space, as a Premier of Queensland Australia always said about the fools that he had too deal with as they bussed about like fly's disturbing you with just trivia etc nonsense, but he said that he had his feet on the ground.
So the issues were non issues in the big picture but the people were convinced that all the gibberish was the issue at hand.
Now I have a best friend for 50 years that still does not understand that Premier, as he claims that the Premier was a total idiot and it's only because he does not understand, he is not on the same page so to speak as he sees things from a different perspective.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

So from my mates perspective he can not fathom what it is that that Premier was truly on about and that's much like old mate above Bobby Jo is like, because he is totally oblivious to the mater at hand that he can't see the forest for the trees and stars barking up the wrong tree.
It's not that my mate is stupid because he is not, but something is like as if it's clouding his mined, so he is oblivious to such.
Maybe it's like one could say that X is not suitable for a Job because he lacks certain quality's, so we will not put him in such a position but he may be fantastic in another. it's like people who have never ran their own business and you know that they don't have a clue as they are totally oblivious to the reality's of such, it's as if they are living on another planet.