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sometimes I think we were separated at birth.
that is a false paradigm though, as it is how well one confesses and rebounds there that is all that mattersTry see how well you do....
So it is your opinion that a person can live sinless? It's not my argument with Christ, but yours Jay. I just showed you scripture saying it's impossible. That would cause most people who practice humility to wonder if their understanding of the scripture was in error. We have to seek the truth to find it, but we can't desire to know the truth until we humble ourselves.
Matthew 18:1-4
18 At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?
2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
When I wrote the following: -What do you believe His "terms of peace" are Jay?
I provided one example from God's terms of peace. I made no claims as to whether or not a person would be able to fulfil the respective term for peace with God/Jesus without sinning.Is not one of them, "Go and sin no more."?
This is your argument with God/Jesus, not mine.<snip>
If it is impossible to have any righteousness of our own before God, why did He tell anyone to "go and sin no more"? He may as well have told a dead man to swim the ocean. It's not possible for anyone to be sinless, even after we are saved, much less before! In Luke 18:27 Jesus says "what is impossible with man, is possible with God".
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When Christ told the people to "Go and sin no more.", he was not saying that they would not sin no more, He was telling them to make the decision to not sin any more.
When we decide to "believe in Him whom he has sent," John 6, it is the starting point to allowing our minds to be renewed from what we learn, but if we do not also deliberately put on the "refreshed", made like new again," person that God intended us to be from the beginning of time, then we will sin and fall short of the Glory of God. God allows us to make that choice and throughout our physical life, we are continually making that choice every day we wake up. Yes the Holy Spirit helps us and prompts us to make the right choices in life, but the final decision is still ours.
God loves us because of who we are and have become in our relationship with Him. In the Parable of the Sheep and the Goats separation, God separates the Sheep, who have a heart after God's heart from the Goats, the people who want to get into heaven even though they do not have a heart after God, yet call God/Jesus, "Lord, Lord." In Matthew Jesus said of those who were performing miracles and casting out demons, that He did not know them, because of the attitude of their heart.
It is our responsibility to make the right judgement calls, and not God's. He draws us to Himself, but the decision as to whether or not we accept His terms of peace is still ours to make.
Shalom
This whole comment is bogus Jay. It's a false gospel! The OP is pointing out positional truths which are given to us through faith in Christ. All this garbage you have been saying is false. If you doubt my word on that, try using some scripture to back it up, and I'll provide scripture that will show unmistakably that the scripture you have tried to use is being used out of context. If you don't plan to use scripture that specifically backs your statements in this "Bible Study Forum", please don't bother to make any further comments on my post with nothing but your own words!
Yes, this is what the man of flesh is as a result of what Adam did in the garden. But then came Jesus onto the scene and into the hearts of people through the Holy Spirit...Read the scripture carefully and with great thought Jay, then think strongly on the question asked with this scripture in mind.
Isaiah 64:6
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
Romans 3:10
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Not impossible, for as Jesus knew and as we should know, we could have, and some of us do have, "Christ in you, the hope of glory" [Col 1:27]Romans 3:19
Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
If it is impossible to have any righteousness of our own before God, why did He tell anyone to "go and sin no more"? He may as well have told a dead man to swim the ocean. It's not possible for anyone to be sinless, even after we are saved, much less before! In Luke 18:27 Jesus says "what is impossible with man, is possible with God".
But... you are saying that God in us is powerless to stop our flesh from sinning. When you say that are you not limiting God as the Israelites in the wilderness limited God by their continuous rebellions?The only way anyone is saved is by the power of God through faith alone. The gospel is the power of God to everyone that believes (Romans 1:16). When a believer trusts Christ as Savior, that believer who was "dead in trespasses and sins" (Eph. 2:1) is "quickened together with Christ". They are spiritually made alive, and are made one spirit with the Lord (1 Cor. 6:17). God doesn't try to teach a dead man how to be sinless, he removes the man from his sin through the baptism of the Holy Spirit. This is spiritual baptism, not of water. We are "born again" into Christ. He gives life to us by being made one with Him.
Salvation to eternal life isn't what we can do for Him, but trusting in what He has done for us. When we trust Him, we are saved at that instant for all eternity (Col. 1:12-14). Take a few minutes and read all of Ephesians 2. Think about what verses 13-18 are telling you. Salvation is "in Christ Jesus" and by faith in His blood, believers are made one with Him. Salvation isn't about you or I becoming sinless, it's about being made sinless through being made one with Christ. We couldn't possibly make ourselves acceptable, so believers are "made accepted in the beloved", receiving His righteousness!
while on the other hand if we just "faith-it" hoping that it is enough and acceptable with no walk in righteousness to accompany our 'position'... We will at the end, be of all men most miserable.
Oh, how the "NEW COVENANT THEOLOGY" has corrupted God's Salvation offer to all.
Yes, this is what the man of flesh is as a result of what Adam did in the garden. But then came Jesus onto the scene and into the hearts of people through the Holy Spirit...
No one has ever been saved without receiving His righteousness by faith. To trust in our own righteousness is to spend eternity in hell. Our faith must be that Jesus Christ paid our sin debt on the cross, and delivered us from the power of darkness by His blood. To trust our own works of righteousness is futile, which is why I showed you God said we have no righteousness. It must be His righteousness imputed by faith. Study the scripture He has given us from His Word to learn the truth. Much of it has been given in this discussion.
but our 'feet' must match our spiritual position
nice. fear is not faithWe have to come to Christ in faith before there is any change in us by the Holy Spirit.