What is the Truth of Jesus?

[theefaith]

Guess you missed this:
"Water baptism is not required for Christian salvation!"

Are you pope now!
Where does scripture say this
1pet 3:21 baptism now saves us

 

[theefaith]

How can you enter a covenant without an outward sign or ritual
Covenants have rules

 

[Curtis]

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

not required then the new cov was not in effect till the death of Christ

Per John, Jesus baptizes with the Holy Spirit.

 

[theefaith]

Per John, Jesus baptizes with the Holy Spirit.

christian ritual of baptism is in the name of the father and of the son and of the HS not the HS alone, confirmation is the sacrament of the HS
What about the fire? What’s that mean

 

[kcnalp]

Are you pope now!

No, thank God! I'm a Bible believer.

Where does scripture say this
1pet 3:21 baptism now saves us

Are you really saying that if someone is dying and can't be baptized he can't be saved?

 

[theefaith]

No, thank God! I'm a Bible believer.

Are you really saying that if someone is dying and can't be baptized he can't be saved?

mid something is not possible it is not required
If you’re dying in a desert no water for example
But if you recover and or return to civilization and refuse or neglect baptism you cannot be saved
But these cases are extremely rare

that does not prove your Solas btw

 

[kcnalp]

mid something is not possible it is not required
If you’re dying in a desert no water for example
But if you recover and or return to civilization and refuse or neglect baptism you cannot be saved
But these cases are extremely rare

that does not prove your Solas btw

So you're saying water baptism is not necessary for salvation! It either is or it isn't. It isn't.

 

[theefaith]

So you're saying water baptism is not necessary for salvation! It either is or it isn't. It isn't.

only if it’s possible

acts 2:38-39
Can infants repent no so it’s not required
Can they believe no so it’s not required
But they can still be baptized

go to unorthodox forum page three and read the didache teaching of the apostles
Refer to acts 2:42

 

[theefaith]

A reply to you from the prayer forum

somebody said
(Asking Christian leaders to unite to address and correct political problems made worse by differences in political beliefs about the role of govt

Please pray God lift us up in Christ and shed any barriers or biases preventing us from fully receiving God's forgiveness and grace, wisdom and will that is perfect.)

Christian leaders?

Successors of the Apostles having the authority of Christ or self-appointed tv evangelists

So you’re opposing Separation of church and state? I agree the state needs the influence of the church to be just and moral like we need grace and Christian virtues to be moral and holy.

Christ is our unity! You cannot unify the body of Christ, it is a body already and has intrinsic unity!

 

[kcnalp]

only if it’s possible

acts 2:38-39
Can infants repent no so it’s not required
Can they believe no so it’s not required
But they can still be baptized

go to unorthodox forum page three and read the didache teaching of the apostles
Refer to acts 2:42

And so if someone believes in Jesus but knows nothing about water baptism he/she is saved. Water baptism is not mandatory for salvation.

 

[theefaith]

And so if someone believes in Jesus but knows nothing about water baptism he/she is saved. Water baptism is not mandatory for salvation.

no not saved, but if he abides Jn15:1 and endures till death matt24:13
It’s possible

 

[kcnalp]

no not saved, but if he abides Jn15:1 and endures till death matt24:13
It’s possible

If he is saved he abides.

 

[theefaith]

If he is saved he abides.

The other way around Jn 15:1
Abide in Him
Grace enables us to abide endure with Christian virtues like patience
Jn 3:16 believes not believed

 

[theefaith]

No reply to Christian leaders and unity?

 

[kcnalp]

The other way around Jn 15:1
Abide in Him
Grace enables us to abide endure with Christian virtues like patience
Jn 3:16 believes not believed

My brother in law was Church of Christ. He was obsessed with water baptism, not repenting and being saved. Water baptism is truly not required for Christian salvation, as you have admitted.

 

[Curtis]

This “same ole same ole” debate on water baptism still takes us to Paul being thankful he only baptized a few, and saying God sent him NOT to baptize BUT to preach the gospel.

It seems evident that if water baptism was part of salvation, Paul would have been sent to do both.

 

[theefaith]

This “same ole same ole” debate on water baptism still takes us to Paul being thankful he only baptized a few, and saying God sent him NOT to baptize BUT to preach the gospel.

It seems evident that if water baptism was part of salvation, Paul would have been sent to do both.

ok he was sent to baptize

 

[theefaith]

faith alone?

rom 2:6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

 

[kcnalp]

ok he was sent to baptize

Not for salvation! Water baptism is not required for salvation!

 

[theefaith]

Not for salvation! Water baptism is not required for salvation!

Yes it’s required and yes he was sent (apostle means one who is sent) to baptism, all apostles are sent to baptize
Matt 28:19
He means not sent primarily to baptize
But he was baptized acts 22:16 and he did baptize
Jn 3:5 baptism
Jn 3:22 baptism
Jn 4:1 baptism