What Keeps Us From Sinning In Heaven?

[CharismaticLady]

7 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?

There you have it. You want to be under the law.

 

[Waiting on him]

Heaven is where God dwells.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Heaven is where God dwells.

God is omnipresent.

Romans 8:9
But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.

 

[Truther]

There you have it. You want to be under the law.

Actually, all sinners are under the Law right now.

Only Spirit led saints are free from the Law, except per marriage.

Marriage is a permitted carnal act governed by the Law.

 

[Truther]

39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Actually, all sinners are under the Law right now.

Only Spirit led saints are free from the Law, except per marriage.

Marriage is a permitted carnal act governed by the Law.

Was Paul a Spirit led Christian?

 

[CharismaticLady]

39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.

True. This is why I haven't dated since my Christian husband left me for the wife of his best friend and married her.

 

[Truther]

Was Paul a Spirit led Christian?

Yes.

His flesh was governed by the Law, causing death.

But his spirit was free.

This is why we must ultimately shed our flesh.

The spirit is saved, but the carnal flesh is not.

Jesus saves the spirit, not the carnal flesh.

 

[BarneyFife]

I pose a question for you. It is said that God cannot lie. Does that mean God lacks free will?

No, what it means is that whatever He says comes to pass.

 

[Truther]

True. This is why I haven't dated since my Christian husband left me for the wife of his best friend and married her.

"Christian" husband?

 

[CharismaticLady]

Yes.

His flesh was governed by the Law, causing death.

But his spirit was free.

This is why we must ultimately shed our flesh.

The spirit is saved, but the carnal flesh is not.

Jesus saves the spirit, not the carnal flesh.

How do you explain that we are not in the flesh but in the Spirit while still alive?

 

[Truther]

How do you explain that we are not in the flesh but in the Spirit while still alive?

Because we are now partakers of His divine nature.

Not our flesh, but our spirit is.

Our flesh wrestles with His divine nature.

Our spirit loves it.

 

[CharismaticLady]

"Christian" husband?

Yes, when we married.

 

[BarneyFife]

Looking back my best memories of the college days are of the fellowship. But... even at that my two best friends were atheists. I never was nor could be although I did try for a while. It would not work. I could not even be an agnostic. My personal experiences with God as a Catholic Altar boy were real. I knew nothing of what the Bible contained other than the stories the nuns told and what the priest would say during mass, but I had encounters with God for certain two times, once at age 6 during Catholic baptism and the second time at age 10 out in a field behind my grandmother's house.

What I heard during my college years really was nonsense, especially in a Philosophy class, but I knew nothing to say and kept my mouth shut. A lot of water under the bridge since then... Both of my friends were smarter than me as far as IQ I guess according to the grade averages... if that means anything, but they were both dummies with regard to some really important things... to me anyway. Nevertheless at the time they were good to me and helped me in some bad situations. God was working on my behalf even then even though I did not know until years later.

Yes, atheism does seem to be a disease that attacks mostly brilliant minds.

 

[Truther]

Yes, when we married.

He backslid.

You are free to marry, but only in the Lord as per the passage in 1 Cor 7:39.

 

[Truther]

Yes, atheism does seem to be a disease that attacks mostly brilliant minds.

And fools...

14 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

 

[Giuliano]

No, what it means is that whatever He says comes to pass.

That is dodging the question. Lies can be about the past, present or future. Even if I agreed with you that it applied only to the future, the question still needs to be answered: Why not?

Please try to come to terms with it. God cannot lie. Why not? If we come closer to the answer for that, we may find ourselves closer to answering the question in the OP.

 

[BarneyFife]

And fools...

14 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Oh, but the biggest fools are the fools who have the largest mental capacity.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Because we are now partakers of His divine nature.

Not our flesh, but our spirit is.

Our flesh wrestles with His divine nature.

Our spirit loves it.

This is where we agree on one point, but don't agree on another.

The carnal flesh is our carnal corrupted spirit nature. It is not our body. Our body must put on immortality just like our spirit/nature became alive unto Christ and has already put on immortality.

We no longer have to struggle against the old nature of sin, because the Spirit freed us from sin.

 

[BarneyFife]

That is dodging the question. Lies can be about the past, present or future. Even if I agreed with you that it applied only to the future, the question still needs to be answered: Why not?

Please try to come to terms with it. God cannot lie. Why not? If we come closer to the answer for that, we may find ourselves closer to answering the question in the OP.

But, you see, I don't agree that it only applies to the future. Linear time is God's plaything, if He so chooses. He is not bound by the constraints of His own conceptions. No dodging required.