When and why will God end our world?

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Stuff was literal/physical for those under the Old Covenant. The Kingdom of GOD is Spiritual. The OT became symbolic for us to use as a reference and understand The Interpretations of Scripture. You can only be literal with everything because you don't have The SPIRIT in you. You are a hyper grace Premill only out for excuses to keep your fallen life ...you are still gog and magog.

No, God's written Word is 'symbolic' ONLY where God uses symbols to represent a Truth in His Word. That does NOT mean everything is to be turned into symbolic philosophy, like you appear to be doing.

Per 2 Kings 20, king Hezekiah asked of God a sign to prove His promise that He would heal him. So God moved the sun back ten degrees.

Do you believe that literally happened, or that it was just symbolic philosophy?
 

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No, God's written Word is 'symbolic' ONLY where God uses symbols to represent a Truth in His Word. That does NOT mean everything is to be turned into symbolic philosophy, like you appear to be doing.

Per 2 Kings 20, king Hezekiah asked of God a sign to prove His promise that He would heal him. So God moved the sun back ten degrees.

Do you believe that literally happened, or that it was just symbolic philosophy?
Sorry, i should have realized i was talking to a dead spirit here and said "some stuff was literal".
 

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Perhaps the "why" is easier to answer than the "when", why will this world end, it will end to wipe out the morass of sin and corruption we have created and to pass judgement on us all, as to when this world will end, it will end when Gods purposes have been fulfilled, and ive given up trying to figure them out, if it was left to me i'd have ended this man made Hell a long time ago, but until God makes that decision i'll continue to try to bring the Light of His Love and Compassion into this Broken world and use my faith to give me the Hope and the Strength to continue that struggle, for what more are we called to do than "To act Justly, to love Mercy and to walk humbly with our God".
 
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No, God's written Word is 'symbolic' ONLY where God uses symbols to represent a Truth in His Word. That does NOT mean everything is to be turned into symbolic philosophy, like you appear to be doing.

Per 2 Kings 20, king Hezekiah asked of God a sign to prove His promise that He would heal him. So God moved the sun back ten degrees.

Do you believe that literally happened, or that it was just symbolic philosophy?

a dead spirit = a dead conscience

People performing repeated willful sin are searing their conscience because doing something over and over again makes them accustomed to it!
They think they won against the Voice telling them to stop ...they won a ticket to flames!
They get The Grieving to stop ...that's what a dead spirit ...dead conscience is.

1 Timothy 4:1-2 GNT
The Spirit says clearly that some people will abandon the faith in later times; they will obey lying spirits and follow the teachings of demons. 2 Such teachings are spread by deceitful liars, whose CONSCIENCES ARE DEAD, as if burnt with a hot iron.

 

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Stuff was literal/physical for those under the Old Covenant. The Kingdom of GOD is Spiritual. The OT became symbolic for us to use as a reference and understand The Interpretations of Scripture. You can only be literal with everything because you don't have The SPIRIT in you. You are a hyper grace Premill only out for excuses to keep your fallen life ...you are still gog and magog.

Nah, just because the Gog/Magog prophecy is in The Old Testament Book of Ezekiel does NOT mean it is already history. To think so is just silly, showing how out of touch some can be with what God's written Word reveals.

2 Peter 3:2
2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

KJV

Why would Apostle Peter command us to be mindful of what is written in the OT Books of God's prophets? Duh... because there's still much prophesy written in those OT Books not yet fulfilled today! Ezekiel 38 & 39 is definitely one of them.
 

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Sorry, i should have realized i was talking to a dead spirit here and said "some stuff was literal".

God's written Word is ALWAYS literal. Allegory, metaphor, analogy, parable, proverbs, idioms, expressions... and the like are ALWAYS about a Truth in His Word. Those are simply 'tools' He uses at times to convey His Truths.

But SOME men abuse those tools, instead applying them in ways that CHANGE God's meanings. This is easy to discover when philosophers abuse His Holy Writ, simply because God provided so many parallel examples spread out in various Books of His Word instead of just in one place.

And this is why those 'philosophers' who abuse God's Word are so funny, because any true Bible student that has done their homework in all of God's Word is familiar with those many parallel Scripture examples God provided in His Word, and thus it becomes easy when philosophers try to change/modify God's Truth in one place. All the other Scripture examples immediately show the philosopher's falseness!
 

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a dead spirit = a dead conscience

People performing repeated willful sin are searing their conscience because doing something over and over again makes them accustomed to it!
They think they won against the Voice telling them to stop ...they won a ticket to flames!
They get The Grieving to stop ...that's what a dead spirit ...dead conscience is.

1 Timothy 4:1-2 GNT
The Spirit says clearly that some people will abandon the faith in later times; they will obey lying spirits and follow the teachings of demons. 2 Such teachings are spread by deceitful liars, whose CONSCIENCES ARE DEAD, as if burnt with a hot iron.

The topic at present is the 2 Kings 20 Scripture about Hezekiah asking God to revert the sun ten degrees, and it says God did that. Do you believe that happened literally, or was just symbolic of something else???
 

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Interesting...but if we venture off into every possibility, cause, and detail, we miss the forest for the trees.

The point is complete in the knowledge that the fall has in fact come since the beginning. And do you not think it clever that the fallen have children who would be allowed to show their own linage--clever of Satan, that we should look at those trees and not the forest?

So...I submit, that better than this, is to ask why the words are even there--that it is because the scriptures not only tell the story of good and those who love God, but also of evil and those who love their own father the devil. Shall we then entertain them--party together? No, but we should make our study brief, that we should not mingle with such.

Now, it is true that we have been placed in this world and that even Jesus mixed with sinners. But His intent is clear. As for those who would have us believe that equal time should be given to what is evil--I would say, Yes, certainly, that evil may be exposed and judged. The caution then, is that we not be fascinated or touched by their tears. For our tears are to God--but theirs are not, but are a come-on from their father that his time should be extended while we chat.

Be brief and seek what is good.
 
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The topic at present is the 2 Kings 20 Scripture about Hezekiah asking God to revert the sun ten degrees, and it says God did that. Do you believe that happened literally, or was just symbolic of something else???

it's all a big game to offset getting Right with GOD for as long as possible. You tell yourself you will do this after you get a sign that is never going to happen.
 

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it's all a big game to offset getting Right with GOD for as long as possible. You tell yourself you will do this after you get a sign that is never going to happen.

The fact... that you cannot answer my question about the 2 Kings 20 event of God moving the sun backwards ten degrees reveals you have NO INTENTION of staying with what is ACTUALLY WRITTEN in God's Word, but instead have your own agenda to DECEIVE any idiot that takes time to listen to and believe you.
 

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So i think we are in the time of satan being loosed. hyper grace is satan's final deception on the world. Catholics were evil, in that, you could sin if you payed them and repeatedly confessed. hyper grace is different, they don't even bother confessing, they just say they are automatically Covered in His Blood. No need to Obey anything. No need to Enter The Kingdom. No need to deny yourself and pick up your cross. No need to lift up The Son of Man.

it sure is weird the sharp decline in morals over the past 70 years.
 
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Angels are ministering spirits.
No one is denying that angels are ministering spirits. But that is a reference to holy angels, and we are speaking about evil angels. After all there are two groups of angels, so don't get confused.
 

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No one is denying that angels are ministering spirits. But that is a reference to holy angels, and we are speaking about evil angels. After all there are two groups of angels, so don't get confused.

So you didn't read the whole response. Well, whatever, evil angels are evil intentions from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. evil fowls in the branches.