When Did Jesus Say He Would Return?

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savedwheat

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Since Jesus said we can know when He returns "right at the door" (Matt. 24.33) then how do we figure out when He returns?

Very simply He returns on the 2,520th day (end of Daniel's final seven) from when the Tribulation starts. 2,520 is the smallest number divisible by all numbers from 2 to 10 as a basic prophetic working unit, and it is 7 years x 360 days per year.

The last 3 feasts pertain to when Jesus returns. Feast of Trumpets (representing the first rapture according to readiness, Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10 at 9.7 "before the throne") commences the 7 year Tribulation, and the 2,520th day must land on Tisha B'Av, the day the 1st and 2nd Temples were destroyed, for Jesus returns to reign in the 3rd Temple for 1000 years on earth with His overcomers. Not all who are saved receive this reward though all saved do get to enter the New City after the 1000 years. Consider this consequences for slothful Christians.

Furthermore we know the "branch is tender" (Matt. 24.32) because Israel is a nation again and the Total Lunar Tetrads coincide with when Israel became a nation May 14, 1948 and entered Jerusalem June 7, 1967 as the signs in the heavens. The 8th feast Tetrad since Christ is 2014/15. And there are exactly 2,520 days from Sept. 14 Feast of Trumpets 2015 to Aug. 7 Tisha B'Av 2022. Not so for 2014-22 or 2016-23.

To further seal the deal, not that we need more proof, the 3 events that occur right before the Tribulation starts (Rev. 6.12) in exact order are the great earthquake (either 320,000 killed in Haiti 2010 or 5th greatest in magnitude, Japan 2011), the blacksackcloth sun Nov. 3, 2013 (rarest of all, the 4th H3 Hybrid since Christ), and of course the Total Lunar Tetrad 2014/15 that only falls on passover and tabernacles and won't happen again till 2582/83. The H3 won't happen again till 2172.

If you care to include other evidences like the Malachy Prophecy (religious Rome destroyed in the 1st half of the Tribulation in Rev. 8 in agreement with 17.16), the prophecy of Jubilees, and Ezekiel's prophecy that takes us to exactly May, 1948 when Israel would become a nation again this only strengthens the timeline.

Considering the last drop of conventional oil is 2035 when 900 billion barrels (current estimate of available oil by industry reports) are used up at an average of 100 million barrels a day, the war over this resource will be a good 15 years before that to control the flow of oil in the middle east. Hence, 200 million military units in the middle east (Rev. 9.16) and the nuclear exchange (v.18). This fits perfectly with the timeline of the 6th and 7th trumpets from Aug. 20, 2020 to Aug. 7, 2022. Jesus steps down on the mount of olives on the latter date.

Now that you know this what do you do? "Overcometh" so that you become a spiritual Christian and not a carnal one to receive your reward to be first raptured and return with Christ to reign 1000 years. Many Christians don't care for this reward so they will lose this blessing (Rev. 1.3).

Source: http://biblocality.c...n-Jesus-Returns

Are there any signs before Sept. 14, 2015? Yes. Rev. 6.12-17 speak of events that occur right before the Tribulation starts. Great financial distress in the world such as the world has never seen. Naturally this would include the price of oil by the year 2015 rising up above 200, 300 even $500 a barrel. Also the US Dollar Index would collapse to all time new lows. By 2015 perhaps it might be below 50 or even 40. It is currently at 80 and has been trading in a range the past several years between 70 and 90. High was 160 in the 80's and in 2002 it was 120. All time low was 70.

In conclusion: Jesus returning on Sunday is 1 in 7. Tisha B'Av held over from Saturday is 1 in 7. Feast of Trumpets to Tisha B'Av works out to be exactly 2,520 days every 7 out of 19 years. Including the probabilities for the Great Earthquake (1 in 2010), the Long H3 Solar Eclipse (1 in 700), the Tetrads (1 in 100,000), and these three events (earthquake, solar eclipse, lunar tetrad) in specific order (1 in 6), we come to a probability of 112 trillion to 1. If you think that is just coincidence, think again!
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How many times do we have to endure someone saying "'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'There He is!'" until we believe Christ when He says, "do not believe it." (Matt 24:23).
 

savedwheat

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How many times do we have to endure someone saying "'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'There He is!'" until we believe Christ when He says, "do not believe it." (Matt 24:23).

Where did I say Jesus is here now?

How many times do Christians have to endure people like you who break the ten commandments "sinning bearing false witness"?

Shame on you.

It makes me very sad to hear that Jesus said when He would return and you admit you reject what He said and rejecting when He returns.

You have nothing to wait for but Hell then. Not too bright.
 

savedwheat

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So folks who disagree with you are going to hell?

Where did I say that?

Sinning bearing false witness is your favorite sin.

The reason you are going to Hell according to the word of God is because you reject Jesus; and the word of God, the Bible, says those who reject the Jesus even the Jesus who returns when He says He returns will go to Hell.

How sad for you that you have nothing to wait for but the Lake of Fire to burn in for all eternity. Your choice.
 

teleiosis

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Since Jesus said we can know when He returns "right at the door" (Matt. 24.33) then how do we figure out when He returns?

You don't. Jesus will return on the "unknown" Day like Rosh ha-Shanah.

Jesus said: "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." - Mt 24:36

Very simply He returns on the 2,520th day (end of Daniel's final seven) from when the Tribulation starts.

Negative.

Jesus said He would return after the shortened Great Tribulation.
The Great Tribulation starts at the midpoint abomination and goes until the Day the Father has determined.
The Great Tribulation is shortened so that some of the Elect will survive and witness His Parousia.
 

ronniechoate34

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So much blatant and willing ignorance, not to mention downright insanity. These forums do so much more harm than good for people. No wonder the Bible directs us to avoid this type of foolishness. And in case no one knows where it is in the Bible that we should avoid these foolish and unlearned questions, and not engage in debating, I'd suggest that you get to finding it. Not only that, you'd all better start practicing it, because the wrath of God is on the way.
 

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So since I disagree with you I am a false witness and going to hell?

The reason you are going to Hell is because you admit you will reject this Jesus who returns Aug. 7, 2022. Your choice.

You don't. Jesus will return on the "unknown" Day like Rosh ha-Shanah.

Jesus said: "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." - Mt 24:36
Jesus doesn't return on Feast of Trumpets but Tisha B'Av. His parousia commences Feast of Trumpets which is Sept. 14, 2015, first rapture according to readiness (Matt. 24.40-42, Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10 "before the throne" 7.9) before the 1st trumpet of the Tribulation commences (8.7). But He steps down on the mount of olives Tisha B'Av 2,520 days later on Aug. 7, 2022.

You misread this passage. Read it in context.

"Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only" (Matt. 24.35-36).

Jesus doesn't return at the end of the world, but 1000 years before the end of the world.

There is only one 2,520 day period that fits. None else fit. There are 2,520 days from Feast of Trumpets Sept. 14, 2015 to Tisha B'Av Aug. 7, 2022.

So much blatant and willing ignorance, not to mention downright insanity. These forums do so much more harm than good for people. No wonder the Bible directs us to avoid this type of foolishness. And in case no one knows where it is in the Bible that we should avoid these foolish and unlearned questions, and not engage in debating, I'd suggest that you get to finding it. Not only that, you'd all better start practicing it, because the wrath of God is on the way.
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Instead of accusing mindlessly without anything to support your hostility, why not address the facts of this thread?
 

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Please do no state people are going to hell because they disagree with your opinions..You do not know the heart of a person nor the mind of God...You have an opinion of the return of Christ..back it up with scriptures...Thank you

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savedwheat

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Please do no state people are going to hell because they disagree with your opinions..You do not know the heart of a person nor the mind of God...You have an opinion of the return of Christ..back it up with scriptures...Thank you

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I never said someone is going to Hell because they don't like same restaurants I go to, but a person is going to Hell for rejecting Jesus just as the Bible says. A person says they reject this Jesus and when He returns so that is their heart.

It was already backed up when Jesus returns. Read the opening post. Why shut your mind down?
 

savedwheat

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So now if we disagree with you we have closed minds?

Where did I say that? Your favorite sin in breaking the ten commandments obviously is in sinning bearing false witness.

I said you reject the Jesus who returns when He says He returns in the Bible. To reject Jesus is to go to Hell according to God's word.
 

teleiosis

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Jesus said He would come on the clouds with the sign of the Son of Man when the sun/moon/star event happens (v.29) which 1: comes after the shortened (v.22) Great Tribulation [which only starts at the midpoint abomination (v.15)] and the sun/moon/star event 2: portends the Day of the Lord.

No one here rejects Jesus returning; we just disagree with your take on when it comes from the Bible.
 

savedwheat

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Jesus said He would come on the clouds with the sign of the Son of Man when the sun/moon/star event happens (v.29) which 1: comes after the shortened (v.22) Great Tribulation [which only starts at the midpoint abomination (v.15)] and the sun/moon/star event 2: portends the Day of the Lord.

No one here rejects Jesus returning; we just disagree with your take on when it comes from the Bible.

Actually you reject when the Bible says He returns so when He returns you will reject Him. You couldn't overturn the proof given.

You forget Joel 2.31 which says "And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come" (Joel 2.30-31).

This agrees with Rev. 6.12 which occurs before the first trumpet of the Tribulation begins (8.7): "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake [Haiti 2010 or Japan 2011]; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair [Nov. 3, 2013 long H3], and the moon became as blood [feast Tetrad 2014/15]"

What you are not understanding is there are signs before (6.12) the Tribulation starts and after (11.19) that encapsulate the 7 year Tribulation which is 2,520 days from Feast of Trumpets Sept. 14, 2015 to Tisha B'Av Aug. 7, 2022. The Great Tribulation is the 2nd half of the 7 year Trib so the Great Trib is 1260 days from Feb. 25, 2019 (9.1) to Aug. 7, 2022 (19.11-16).

I am glad to see there is nothing wrong you could find with the proof. Praise the Lord!
 

biggandyy

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So savedchaff, when we disagree with your private interpretation of the Scriptures we are:

1) Going to Hell.
2) Bearing false witness and going to Hell.
3) Have closed minds and going to Hell.
4) Rejecting Jesus and going to Hell.
5) Rejecting the Bible and going to Hell.

You talk about Hell like you were born and raised there.
 

teleiosis

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There's no worthwhile discussion here if Biblical definitions and Scripture are going to be turned all around.
 

savedwheat

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Since you admit you reject Jesus who steps down on the mount of olives Aug. 7, 2022 Tisha B'Av then you are just expressing your free choice to be eternally separated from God.

Why blame others for your choice?



My only hope is since you won't be first raptured, may you realize the truth when a couple million are first raptured according to readiness Sept. 14, 2015 Feast of Trumpets (Aug. 7, 2022 Tisha B'Av). It will be all over the news a couple million souls are missing: Matt. 24.40-42, Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10 "before the throne" 7.9 before the 1st trumpet (8.7) of the Tribulation begins.

Satan would probably mock it as a fake rapture, a grand conspiracy just like he mocked Jesus' death on the cross Passover, Friday, April 1, 33 AD April Fool's Day, or tried to change the date.