Ceremonially unclean. If they touched a dead animal they were ceremonially unclean until evening.How do you think people become unclean? By coming into contact with stuff that was unclean, no?
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Ceremonially unclean. If they touched a dead animal they were ceremonially unclean until evening.How do you think people become unclean? By coming into contact with stuff that was unclean, no?
are you innocent as a child?Ask Jesus.
Mat 18:2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,
Mat 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
He’s talking about being as innocent as a child,, and not about physiology.
Yes, most of the translation say "from", several translate,""And all whose names have not been written "from" the foundation of the world in the Book of Life belonging to the Lamb who was slain."
Does that mean: "Before/At/During or After" the foundation?
If you do not grasp the difference between FREEWILL and CONSEQUENCE;
Not my problem.
When a THING (in this case a manKIND Of Seed) is in the process of being Formed, IT, that THING, had absolutely NO Freewill, ie NO Choice of Choosing to BE;....planted in a Fallopian tube, fertilize an egg, travel down the Fallopian tube, engulfed in a placenta, attach to a womb, and begin formING into the expectation of a manKIND of THING, complete ITS forming, now formED, exit the womb, be severed from it Life Source Placenta, called born, and receive Gods Breath of Life, and BE an ALIVE “created” manKIND of Thing and ALIVE “made” manKIND of Thing...called “MULTIPLE” things...
A mankind of thing, a living soul, a baby, an infant, a terrestrial, an earthling, a person, a human, an individual, created AND made, Alive, Living, Johnny, Susie...blah, blah, blah.
That “THING”, by whatever term one calls “IT”, is NEITHER, for or against God. It NEITHER is developed or skilled in thinking in its BRAIN in Logical or Reasoning terms.
...It’s Body, marvelously, CREAT-ED by Gods Hand...is one thing.
It’s Soul, MADE, the CREAT-ED sensory BODY parts ABLE TO FUNCTION.
...The ears, can HEAR, The eyes, can SEE, The nose can SMELL, The mouth can UTTER sounds, The flesh can FEEL TOUCH.
THAT “thing” (whatever you want to call it)...”HAD” NO say in the matter (during 9 months) TO BE “created” (a
CHILD development is after birth - another topic.AND AGAIN... ONCE “created and made”...that “thing”, (during infant, toddler, little child, pre-teen, young teen) ... “they” BY GODS DIRECTION TO PARENTS...are supposed be taught, and learning...HOW TO, exercise “their” FREEWILL, That IS most beneficial FOR THEM, and pleasing TO GOD.
...AND IF...the parents fail to accomplish their Godly directional task...(too bad, so sad for the child)....
...AND as the child becomes an ADULT, it becomes his own responsibility to Discover, hear, learn, read, and “receive” Gods direction; with the MIND as a child, (that he SHOULD have received as a child, from his natural parents).
...AND THAT ^^^ IS the LONG HARD ROAD, for every child who is thrust on that route....For some it is too difficult...
...AND...that ^ DIFFICULTY...is more than Obvious, to anyone with open eyes Observing World society;
...teaching, encouraging, promoting, advocating, participating in COMPLETE opposition of Gods beneficial Direction
I have EXPRESSLY stated, I do NOT advocate or support ABORTIONS.
I have EXPRESSLY stated, I DO support FREEWIL
Are you,,or are you excluded from heaven, per Jesus’ very words?are you innocent as a child?
Abortion is a sin against God.
.And that life begins at conception.
genetic code
It is interesting how Pro-choice people deny that a fetus is actually human.
how disrespectful and inconsiderate you are....
very cold and heartless
You are confusing physical bodily functions
with the soul, which is not physical.
And this is obvious you are in favor of that choice, a freewill decision to cut short a life of a future human being whom God created.
It is a Pro-Choice statement. All your posts reflect exactly this view.
Most of our laws come from basic, fundamental truths and God's laws. The sanctity of life is one.
And then are done.
I'm not the one saying Jesus meant being innocent when he said 'unless you become as little children....you are. So the question is to you and your definition.Are you,,or are you excluded from heaven, per Jesus’ very words?
You also have to believe Jesus rose bodily from the dead to be saved, BTW,
I see you have side stepped my question again Curtis just like you have done when I asked if you are male or female because of discrepancies in your posts and your profile.Are you?
You have said that how many times now .. 40 years .. well pal .. I only have 35 years .. but know way more than you do. You don't even know the main arguments on the other side .. you have spent 40 years in your own myopic perspective .. blind as a bat.
Claiming 18 Days after conception is wildly below kindergarten level - first off .. what you mean is "implantation" .. which happens a week or two after conception . Big difference when you are talking 18 days .. .. especially if implantation doesn't happen for the first 10 ..
But even so .. even claiming 18 days after implantation is simple ignorance of the issue... you can detect some pulses of energy perhaps but by no means is this a regular heart beat - and in no way have you claimed how having such a thing is significant .. you have a living thing being formed .. the energy of the collective increases with time .. that does not mean the soul has landed.
As a Research Scientist - Chemistry/Microbiology - I know a thing or two about how things work - and am not easily fooled .. so save your 40 years fallacy .. just as the above pud measurement is also "appeal to authority" fallacy - and put your cards on the table.
that said .. least I have a logical explanation for when I think the soul might alight. If your brain dead - your not much aware of this world ..
I think therefor I am -
There are no discrepancies between my posts and my profile.I see you have side stepped my question again Curtis just like you have done when I asked if you are male or female because of discrepancies in your posts and your profile.
hmmmm, I didn't know males could have babiesThere are no discrepancies between my posts and my profile.
are you innocent as a child?
And I never said I birthed a baby.hmmmm, I didn't know males could have babies
That is an excellent point. When the heart stops beating for more than a few minutes, people see that as the person being dead. They flatline. Sometimes they are resuscitated within a few minutes. But when the heart stops beating and doesn't start back up, that means death. So the beginning of a heartbeat can certainly be counted as life. Amd life is in the blood as scripture says.Excellent post!!! At around 6 weeks of pregnancy the embryo's heartbeat can be detected and it is beating twice as fast as the mother's....at 11 weeks of pregnancy the embryo is now a fetus....
Now answer this question....why is the heart already beating at 6 weeks? Think about what the purpose of the heart is in the human body...
it pumps....day in and day out until death. What is it pumping? Blood.
What does the blood contain....Oxygen, nutrients, various hormones.....and it also gets rid of used energy....CO2, waste products, dead cells.
So isn't the embryo alive since it must have a heart to pump the necessary oxygenated blood throughout the body? Oh and emphasis....OXYGENATED BLOOD....(breath)....the lungs are NOT the breath of life...it is the organ that exchanges O2 and CO2.....
I think it should be considered at the time of conception...but for now I will accept the heartbeat rule that legislation has passed....and many women are not aware they have conceived in those 6 weeks so that gives the baby a chance of survival at least.That is an excellent point. When the heart stops beating for more than a few minutes, people see that as the person being dead. They flatline. Sometimes they are resuscitated within a few minutes. But when the heart stops beating and doesn't start back up, that means death. So the beginning of a heartbeat can certainly be counted as life. Amd life is in the blood as scripture says.
I'm okay with that.
However, doesn't life begin when the sperm enters the egg and cells begin to divide and be created. A cell has thousands of miniature factories that create amino acids and proteins, photo copying machines that duplicate cells, modify, error correcting and 3-D printers if you will that receive enormous amonts of information from the genetic code, interpret it and proceed to manufacture the mind boggling complex human fibers, organs amd systems within systems simultaneously. Cells are being created and the fetus is growing ... isn't that life too?
As soon as a seedling of a Sequoia tree sprouts we would call that life. Even though it is just a sprout, it is a Sequoia.
I think God's breath of life rhat produces a living soul happens at conception. That soul is born at that time. It contains the life force.
Since _ as I have been taught _ the soul is the mind, will, emotions, the invisible person, well at this time of birth, to be just a blank soul in itself, but it too has a an invisible program/design that is in God's mind. He has intentions for this soul, plans. He/she could be a Mozart, Mother Teresa or an Einstein ... or a Judas, but to God, it is not a blank soul.
Since infants are born without sin (Romans 4:15; 1 John 3:4; Romans 7:8-9) they are born innocent, pure and if they die in that innocent pure state they would be saved. Though men are born in an innocent, pure state does not justify the murder of infants. The ends do not justify the means (Romans 3:8)...Those who say "Let us do evil (murder), that good may come (infants saved) their damnation is just."What do you think happens to babies if they are aborted?
Can you believe God would send innocent babies to hell? That doesn't seem right to me.
If they go to Heaven, think about it. If they were born, they could become terrible sinners and wind up in hell. If someone killed them first, they'd go to Heaven. So can that be right? Could you be doing a baby a favor by aborting it and sending it to Heaven? That doesn't seem right to me either.
Yeah, I did get it, but dismissed it, because it's not valid. Like I said, one could make the argument ~ but it would of course be ridiculous ~ that a person is not fully formed until he or she reaches and passes through puberty. And that would rule out anyone under the age of about eleven years old. Yeah, ridiculous, right? I don't think you're saying a person is not a person until he or she is an adult, but that's really where your views on this end up, whether intentionally or not.You obviously did not get the point. Adam was Formed...NOT FORMING,
FORMED, NOT FORMING, FORMED, Before receiving Gods Breath of life!
The only thing that "bugs me" is obstinance. And rationalization. And distorting truth to fit a preconceived narrative.If that bugs you, take it up with God.
Of course you do.Disagree.
No it doesn't. Again, a person is a person no matter how small.Age does matter.
Well, sure, but again, there are many passages in the Bible, a few of which I pointed out, that refer to a person as a person even while still in his/her mother's womb. And it doesn't makes some random distinction like, "only those who have been in the womb 22 weeks.Born does matter.
Now, this is true, and I agree. Although to be honest, I'm not really sure what you mean by "according to the created thing, manKIND." Do you mean regarding the created thing? If so, sure, I agree.What God DOES, is not willy nilly, according to the created thing, manKIND. God expressly reveals HIS ORDER and HIS WAY.
Sure. But God's order/way is what it is.The create THING, can FREELY accept Gods ORDER, Gods WAY, or FREELY reject Gods ORDER, Gods WAY.