Where do people get the authority?

[ScottA]

If you say so, I just look at what John stated.

I don’t mind being wrong according to you, if what I’m stating within my own perception is true.

Is the love He commanded not to include laying down our own life in His own love unto every generation, as He did, saying "Follow Me?" I tell you--it is.

 

[MatthewG]

Is the love He commanded not to include laying down our own life in His own love unto every generation, as He did, saying "Follow Me?" I tell you--it is.

I love Yeshua. I love that he lives in my heart. I ain’t got nothing special revelation or nothing. I’m just my own person, choosing what I make out of my life; without you really being here in it. You’re just a man, like me, on the internet, and have no authority over me.

 

[ScottA]

I love Yeshua. I love that he lives in my heart. I ain’t got nothing special revelation or nothing. I’m just my own person, choosing what I make out of my life; without you really being here in it. You’re just a man, like me, on the internet, and have no authority over me.

Yes, you have described your own situation quite well.

But that does not account for the unfinished work of Christ to every generation until the end under His authority. An example of that authority, is Paul, saying, "For me, to live is Christ." And he was just one under the authority of Christ, only seeing to the works of Christ by divine appointment for a small part of the overall church age. Has Christ then left us orphans, left to workout our own salvation--to love His life in our hearts; to have and be nothing special without revelation or nothing--just our own person, choosing what WE make out of our life as if just a man is not able to be appointed by Christ, and say "for me, to live is Christ?"

That's really sad, no pathetic. He is not done, nor are those whom He has sent, and will continue to send, until the end of the age.

 

[MatthewG]

Yes, you have described your own situation quite well.

But that does not account for the unfinished work of Christ to every generation until the end under His authority. An example of that authority, is Paul, saying, "For me, to live is Christ." And he was just one under the authority of Christ, only seeing to the works of Christ by divine appointment for a small part of the overall church age. Has Christ then left us orphans, left to workout our own salvation--to love His life in our hearts; to have and be nothing special without revelation or nothing--just our own person, choosing what WE make out of our life as if just a man is not able to be appointed by Christ, and say "for me, to live is Christ?"

That's really sad, no pathetic. He is not done, nor are those whom He has sent, and will continue to send, until the end of the age.

I believe He has completed and finished everything.

Maybe some people will come and buy your books and see what you have to offer them, I am not sure what you want.

I mean I love you as a person.

People will seek him out, or not, or check out your books or something.


What do you want? To badger me? Can you not let me be?

Using words like sad, or pathetic.... I don't get it.

But it bothers you.

Best just let it be, instead of harboring over me, or trying to get me to "SEE" something.

 

[MatthewG]

I don't believe anyone has any authority to assert the letters written and the Gospels written to themselves directly.

I do believe that God/Yahavah is the ultimate authority, he will write on the hearts and minds of those who look to him.

The Bible itself is a wonderful gift God has left for us to ponder and look at, but according to it.

The heavens declare the glory of God, and display his handy work.

People can do whatever they choose though, its between them and God on an individual subjective level.

 

[ScottA]

I believe He has completed and finished everything.

Maybe some people will come and buy your books and see what you have to offer them, I am not sure what you want.

I mean I love you as a person.

People will seek him out, or not, or check out your books or something.


What do you want? To badger me? Can you not let me be?

Using words like sad, or pathetic.... I don't get it.

But it bothers you.

Best just let it be, instead of harboring over me, or trying to get me to "SEE" something.

You asked for this. You have made a case seemingly against perhaps any Christ-given authority since "it is finished"--which is true of the payment, but not of every generation. If YOU yourself are finished--fine. But there are babes born everyday that have yet to hear and know the good of what Christ has indeed finished--and yet it is not finished for them--it has only just begun--and Christ has not left any as orphans.

So, if you want to walk off into the setting sun happy for all that God has done for YOU, fine. But then, maybe you should not look back and give a care and trouble yourself about the unbroken line of Christ-given authority that continues on, and will unto the end.

 

[MatthewG]

You asked for this.

No. I didn’t ask for anything.

I don’t want to argue with you just cause you assume something you believe. That’s fine.

But I don’t think it’s good to assume I must believe you either.

No one should ever believe me, and they should read the Bible for themselves, study, and see what it is all about.

I don’t believe that that “end times which was for that generation” means it continues on and on and on and on.

Never read that line in the Bible, saying

“also the end times will come upon you in the future of Americas, Canada or something else”

The only end time I believe at this point in life is death itself.

Don’t know when but when trying to talk people like yourself I wish I could just leave sooner.

That’s my weakness, I wanna leave and go home.

Cause it’s frustrating, you can believe whatever you want @ScottA, but I can’t make that Bible say.

“To Matthew in his little trailer, the end times which is coming for you just as it was them then”

Therefore ya failed to make any point with me sir… cause I just don’t see as you want me too.