2ndRateMind
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So there is the 'untruth' you asked me for earlier, and why we need a measure of distance from a literal interpretation of the Bible.
Best wishes, 2RM.
Best wishes, 2RM.
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So there is the 'untruth' you asked me for earlier, and why we need a measure of distance from a literal interpretation of the Bible.
Do you mean like the serpent Moses held up?Nothing related to the animal proper but in context through cultural eyes over there- a great deal
You don't elaborate do you.
What do we need to know about the snake metaphor, I ask because you did not explain.Nothing related to the animal proper but in context through cultural eyes over there- a great deal
What do we need to know about the snake metaphor, I ask because you did not explain.
So according to you, a serpent is not a snake? Can't you see the linguistic knots you are tying yourself up with, and the violence you are doing to the English language?
I understand metaphor, but have never heard anything like this. You keep saying Asian and that confuses me. May I ask your nationality and religious affiliation please. Thank you.You didn't ask ( or make it clear your question)- Now i understand it (I think) so will address it.
Asian ( SE & SW) languages are heavy on descriptions of things and even nouns bear some of this in tense and adjectives used as well as placement.
There is also metaphoric use ( as say a specific thing such as a snakes "hiss" is used to represent a human attribute) and symbolic use (Moses bronze snake) which is the 'snake' is a representative of something else ( often by attribution of the audience it was intended for)
The "serpent" in the garden represents a being ( not a reptile known as a snake) who is in all ways a deceiver and con man.
The snake on the pole identifies the threat (actual snakes) with bronze representing judgement and the pole meaning elevation above the people (type of Christ)
You wont find these differences in a concordance- you will have to look at cultural influences on the languages.
Remember, the original target audience for these writings were NOT English speaking peoples of an Anglo heritage so there has to be more than just a linear translation of the text to understand the full meaning.
You keep saying Asian and that confuses me.
May I ask your nationality and religious affiliation please. Thank you.
Thank you."Asia" is the largest continent on this planet and the bearing prefix (SE, SW etc) denotes the region of said continent (to a degree) and the "middle east" is mostly in SW Asia ( more or less depending on where cartography lines are drawn and change)
Caucasian American and simply Believer and Follower of Jesus ( I have no more 'affiliation" with any of MANS created denominations and its because of "being in" man's denominations and sifting through all the excess BS they add on to the word that I no longer affiliate or belong to any of them)
...I have no more 'affiliation" with any of MANS created denominations and its because of "being in" man's denominations and sifting through all the excess BS they add on to the word that I no longer affiliate or belong to any of them...
You seem proud of that. I would remind you that the church fathers thought pride to be the deadliest of the seven deadly sins, and they ascribed it to Lucifer as the motive for his rebellion, by which he became Satan.
I am and there are no "7 deadly sins"
Well, I think for the moment we have gone pretty much as far as we can go, on this topic. I am now discussing the plight of the poor in the Christian Debate Forum. I'd be interested in your thoughts, if you want to join in.
Perhaps these are the ones they meant:You seem proud of that. I would remind you that the church fathers thought pride to be the deadliest of the seven deadly sins, and they ascribed it to Lucifer as the motive for his rebellion, by which he became Satan.
Best wishes, 2RM.
Traditionally, the seven deadly sins are pride, avarice, wrath, gluttony, sloth, lust and envy. These share in common the fact that they are all selfish ways of being, and virtue is selfless.