Which generation is "this generation"?

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n2thelight

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Seems like you've got to come up with longer and more complicated explanations to make this all work. The simplest explanation works the best though. When you say they wouldn't have been able to see him, that simply doesn't fly. The bible is full of examples of people seeing angels, demons, etc. His disciples see a complete stranger in the flesh, and BAM, they suddenly see Christ. That's Christ's own teaching coming alive right in front of them. They see Moses and Elijah as well so we know they don't have to be in the flesh to be seen.

Did Christ return to heaven in His flesh body?Christ could had let His flesh remain in that tomb,had He did no one would believe He rose
 
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n2thelight

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I don't know what you're talking about, or what your point is here.

Was replying to your quote below

They're taught directly, right? Here again, what's the point in teaching people to keep commandments that are irrelevant without a flesh body?

What I'm saying is some were judged before we were even made flesh.
 
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Christ was tranfigured so that the scripture could remain true

Psalms 16:10 "For Thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; Neither wilt Thou suffer Thine Holy One to see corruption."

"Corruption" pertains to when the flesh body turns to ashes. So what this is saying is that Christ's body is one body that God would not allow that precious flesh even to turn to the dust of the earth that it was made of. It would not be allowed to happen. Christ did not let His soul rest in hell, because He had things to do; to preach to the lost, and to lead lost souls out of captivity. When Jesus was there He taught the truths that those souls had not heard in their flesh bodies.
 

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Christ was tranfigured so that the scripture could remain true

Psalms 16:10 "For Thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; Neither wilt Thou suffer Thine Holy One to see corruption."

"Corruption" pertains to when the flesh body turns to ashes. So what this is saying is that Christ's body is one body that God would not allow that precious flesh even to turn to the dust of the earth that it was made of. It would not be allowed to happen. Christ did not let His soul rest in hell, because He had things to do; to preach to the lost, and to lead lost souls out of captivity. When Jesus was there He taught the truths that those souls had not heard in their flesh bodies.

Nope. Not even close. Look at the context, and learn to rightly divide the word. It states that he "proclaimed", not the gospel; but the word refers to the "manner" (not to be confused with the matter). He isn't proclaiming the gospel to save anyone, but to announce his victory over death. He is explicitly proclaiming this to those "spirits imprisoned who were disobedient in the days of Noah" 1 peter 3:19 why just those who were disobedient in Noah's day??? Why not every other sinner as well? Why are the rest ignored?
 

shnarkle

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Was replying to your quote below

They're taught directly, right? Here again, what's the point in teaching people to keep commandments that are irrelevant without a flesh body?

What I'm saying is some were judged before we were even made flesh.

And? What's your point? How does this relate to being taught directly by God? What does this have to do with being taught that it's wrong to commit adultery when everyone is no longer in flesh bodies? What purpose is there in teaching someone that it's wrong to commit adultery when they don't have the flesh body necessary to commit adultery in the first place?
 

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Was replying to your quote below

They're taught directly, right? Here again, what's the point in teaching people to keep commandments that are irrelevant without a flesh body?

What I'm saying is some were judged before we were even made flesh.

Good luck with shnarkle, he'll never agree that God teaches us right from wrong because he's not a Christian, thus he is antichrist. The countdown to shnarkle insulting you then discounting your view or ignoring you because you are a Christian has begun...;)

Look at one of his replies to your comment here: "And? What's your point? How does this relate to being taught directly by God? What does this have to do with being taught that it's wrong to commit adultery when everyone is no longer in flesh bodies? What purpose is there in teaching someone that it's wrong to commit adultery when they don't have the flesh body necessary to commit adultery in the first place?"

The reason God taught us that adultery is wrong, even when no longer in the flesh body, is because at it's core, adultery is betrayal. Betrayal is wrong. And who was the first to betray God, by rebelling against Him, one who doesn't have a flesh body - satan.

And this isn't even getting into the argument that antichrists/non-Christians believe that right and wrong comes from philosophies of earlier men, or even their "something from nothing" - the thought that one can have morals without believing in God, yet can never explain where those morals come from; why within even an unbeliever, adultery is wrong (at least to most).
 
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Good luck with shnarkle, he'll never agree that God teaches us right from wrong because he's not a Christian, thus he is antichrist. The countdown to shnarkle insulting you then discounting your view or ignoring you because you are a Christian has begun...;)

Look at one of his replies to your comment here: "And? What's your point? How does this relate to being taught directly by God? What does this have to do with being taught that it's wrong to commit adultery when everyone is no longer in flesh bodies? What purpose is there in teaching someone that it's wrong to commit adultery when they don't have the flesh body necessary to commit adultery in the first place?"

The reason God taught us that adultery is wrong, even when no longer in the flesh body, is because at it's core, adultery is betrayal. Betrayal is wrong. And who was the first to betray God, by rebelling against Him, one who doesn't have a flesh body - satan.

And this isn't even getting into the argument that antichrists/non-Christians believe that right and wrong comes from philosophies of earlier men, or even their "something from nothing" - the thought that one can have morals without believing in God, yet can never explain where those morals come from; why within even an unbeliever, adultery is wrong (at least to most).

Okay...
 

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... english don't really equate with how the Word was written...
Then use Hebrew, but don't discard Scriptures which contradict your doctrines. -- Or do so at your own risk.

We all choose,
Bobby Jo
 
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