Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men

[Timtofly]

If sons of God were ever described as angels, it it would make this a lot easier.
This set of scriptures indicates that the Nephilims already existed in that time period, not necessarily connected to this event.
Biblically it is never explained exactly who or what impregnated these women.
All that information occurs outside of the Bible.

"There were giants (Nephilim) in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."

All this is saying is that the sons of God were "giants" compared to Adam's dead corruptible flesh. The instant Adam disobeyed God, he physically died. Adam went from having a permanent incorruptible physical body to a dead corruptible physical body. Only at the Second Coming or upon entering Paradise will any of us posting in this thread know our physical size in our God given permanent incorruptible physical bodies.

There were 4 females on the ark with Noah, and his 3 sons were the product of one of those females. Those 4 females were more than likely part of those born from sons of God and carried the genetics not just from Adam's dead corruptible flesh. Adam's offspring was never forbidden to procreate with the sons of God. Certainly they would not be spiritually redeemed when they procreated with the sons of God. Procreation would not change the fact Adam's descendants were sinners and born in sin and death. It would change the incorruptible part of who a son of God was though. It would be mixing incorruptible flesh with corruptible flesh. The result would not make the corruptible better. It would make the incorruptible more corruptible. Genetics introduces problems, it does not "fix" them.

If humans kept inbreeding the same line of genetics for dozens of generations it would stop being viable after a while because flesh is corruptible and decays after each generation. Each generation introduces more errors. It certainly cannot make corruptible flesh less corruptible.

 

[Timtofly]

This is why angels are called "sons of God" in every other place where the expression is used in the Old Testament. Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7. Ps. 29:1; 89:6. Dan. 3:25 (no art.). (*2) We have no authority or right to take the expression in Gen. 6:2, 4 in any other sense. Moreover, in Gen. 6:2 the Sept. renders it "angels". Angels are called "spirits" (Ps. 104:4. Heb. 1:7, 14), for spirits are created by God.

Sorry but angels were never called the sons of God. You are basing your bias of many verses on a wrong interpretation of one verse.

We (the redeemed) have every right to be called sons of God.

You would give our rights away to Satan, who is only a created angel? Angels will never be sons of God.

Job 38:7 "When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for Joy?"

Who were these "sons of God" [the stars that sang], and when did these sons of God sing for Joy?

The stars were created on day 4 and sang.

The sons of God were created on day 6 and shouted for Joy.

Two separate created beings from the very beginning.

The sons of God are not the stars nor the angels.

Your interpretation is very faulty in this verse. Of course Job and Elihu were not there on day six. But their forefathers were.

 

[Truth7t7]

And you can try and come up with 1,000 excuses not to believe the Genesis 6 and Jude 6-7 Scripture as written, and it still will not change the existence of a hybrid giant race per Old Testament history.

The Nephilim Is "Greek Mythology", Angels don't marry humans such as "The Sons of God" did in Genesis 6:2 taking "Wives"

Verse 3 clearly teaches "The Sons Of God" are fleshly human "Men", your land of fairy tales in Angels having sexual intercourse with humans has now disappeared

Jesus Is The Lord

Genesis 6:2KJV
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

 

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Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men
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sons of God “are”;
Created Celestial and Terrestrials beings, Made holy, by, through, of the Lord God Almighty.

Daughters of Men “are”;
Created and Made alive female offspring of the seed of Terrestrial manKIND of creatures.

 

[Truth7t7]

Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men
OP^

sons of God “are”;
Created Celestial and Terrestrials beings, Made holy, by, through, of the Lord God Almighty.

Daughters of Men “are”;
Created and Made alive female offspring of the seed of Terrestrial manKIND of creatures.

Fairy Tales, In The Land Of Once Upon A Time

 

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Fairy Tales, In The Land Of Once Upon A Time

You can think, believe, repeat over and over, your doubt, your challenge, your disbelief in Gods Power of Creating and Making and not once does that have any negative consequence that affects me.

 

[Truth7t7]

You can think, believe, repeat over and over, your doubt, your challenge, your disbelief in Gods Power of Creating and Making and not once does that have any negative consequence that affects me.

You can repeat, believe, over and over again "Greek Mythology" in teaching Angels had sexual intercourse with humans creating the fictional "Nephilim", fairy tales in imagination isn't totally a bad thing in my opinion

 

[Grailhunter]

All this is saying is that the sons of God were "giants" compared to Adam's dead corruptible flesh.

No

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Thats not true the sons of God was also used for men.

And your cite of Hosea 1:10 does not prove that- It says sons of Israel, not God!

The daughters of men offered the sons of God the autonomy they desired. The sons of God saw the great accomplishments and advances of the sons of men. The sons of men lived a self-governed and independent life aside from God. This enticed the sons of God so they intermarried with the daughters of men and put aside the ways of the Lord and lived their own self determined lives.

We see the first example of autonomy in the Garden of Eden with Eve. Eve decided that she wanted more than the life God had determined for her she also wanted to be just like God. Satan knew this and tempted Eve and told her that she could have this if she ate the forbidden fruit.

did you find all this out by reading between the written lines of Scripture ( you know the empty space between rows of words) or are you just spitballing all this?

 

[Timtofly]

Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men
OP^

sons of God “are”;
Created Celestial and Terrestrials beings, Made holy, by, through, of the Lord God Almighty.

Daughters of Men “are”;
Created and Made alive female offspring of the seed of Terrestrial manKIND of creatures.

Sons of God: Genesis 1:26-28

"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."

Daughters of men: Genesis 5:3

"And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:"

Seth was the literal first daughter of man.

These terms are not literal gender specific. They are literary grammar constructs. Language used to agree or compliment words according to gender.

Procreation went both ways. Seth could have married a female from those created on the 6th day. He did not have to procreate with a sister or even a cousin or niece, from Cain.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

What the daughters of men offered and what drew the sons of god to them was Autonomy

this is all just supposition without biblical support!

All Gen. 6:1 says is this:

Genesis 6:1-3
King James Version

6 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Verse 1 simply means mankind! it is you who insert Sons of Cain. then you insert daughters of Cain for part B of the verse.

Sons of God occurs exactly three times in the OT and the other 2X are definitely angels. You have provided no reason why this occurrence should depart from the only other two occurrences where they are clearly defined.

these are those in Jude who are in chains of darkness for they left their first habitation. Those are not demons for those are still free to roam the earth and even go to heaven (until the battle of Michael in Rev.)

YOU simply are doing eisegesis and not sound exegesis. then to buttress your hypothesis you add all sorts of unsupported ideas.

 

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You can repeat, believe, over and over again "Greek Mythology" in teaching Angels had sexual intercourse with humans creating the fictional "Nephilim", fairy tales in imagination isn't totally a bad thing in my opinion

I never mentioned “Greek mythology”.
I never mentioned “Nephilim”.

You can make up lies for yourself, but when you make up lies for others, it only reflects on your own wayward character.

 

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Sons of God: Genesis 1:26-28

"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."

Daughters of men: Genesis 5:3

"And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:"

Irrelevant to the OP.

Seth was the literal first daughter of man.

Made up nonsense.

These terms are not literal...

Your opinions lead to nonsense.
Scripture is clear. It’s a book of Knowledge. Freewill. Believe it or not.

 

[Truth7t7]

I never mentioned “Greek mythology”.
I never mentioned “Nephilim”.

You can make up lies for yourself, but when you make up lies for others, it only reflects on your own wayward character.

No lies whatsoever, you need to get up to speed on theological claims in the world today, the thread your involved in is Genesis 6:1-8 that surrounds the fictional teaching of the "Nephilim", that is "Greek Mythology"

 

[Marty fox]

And your cite of Hosea 1:10 does not prove that- It says sons of Israel, not God!



did you find all this out by reading between the written lines of Scripture ( you know the empty space between rows of words) or are you just spitballing all this?

Lamech gives us the reason for this in Genesis chapter 5

Genesis 5:28-29
28 When Lamech had lived 182 years, he had a son. 29 He named him Noah[c] and said, “He will comfort us in the labor and painful toil of our hands caused by the ground the LORD has cursed.”

The faithful people of God began to lose faith and complain about the pain and burden of working a cursed soil. Lamech named his son Noah which means rest as he thought that Noah would bring his people comfort and rest.

What the daughters of men offered the sons of God was Autonomy

 

[Ronald Nolette]

What the daughters of men offered the sons of God was Autonomy

Now just prove that and we can discuss it further. Otherwise it is just opinion and opinions are like behinds, we all have them and they all smell.

and the ground had been cursed since Adam, not Lamech. Do you have some secret documents that describe things god decided not to put in the bible? You seem to come up with lots of accounts god did not inspire.

 

[Timtofly]

No

So there were never any giants to have ever lived on earth period?

That was symbolic of having huge egos?

 

[Timtofly]

Sons of God occurs exactly three times in the OT and the other 2X are definitely angels. You have provided no reason why this occurrence should depart from the only other two occurrences where they are clearly defined.

That is your supposition without Scripture. Since you did not post the Scripture, you just "gave your opinion".

 

[Grailhunter]

So there were never any giants to have ever lived on earth period?

That was symbolic of having huge egos?

No absolutely there were giants.
But the sons of God were not giants.
The Nephilim were a separate race, that existed before and after the event of the sons of God impregnating human women.

 

[Timtofly]

Irrelevant to the OP.
Made up nonsense.
Your opinions lead to nonsense.
Scripture is clear. It’s a book of Knowledge. Freewill. Believe it or not.

Yes, you are free to just insert your opinion, instead of Scripture.

Call God's Word nonsense, but I will take what God calls "foolishness to men", God's Word, over your posted opinion every day.

I gave you the clear definition from Scripture. You choose to reject the Word of God and call it nonsense.

You think the feminine and masculine forms of words is also nonsense?

I agree you have free will to make stuff up. I have free will to go with God's Word.

Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men
OP^

sons of God “are”;
Created Celestial and Terrestrials beings, Made holy, by, through, of the Lord God Almighty.

Daughters of Men “are”;
Created and Made alive female offspring of the seed of Terrestrial manKIND of creatures.

This is all your nonsense. Not one verse. You are confusing what Paul states, and then conflating Terrestrial and Celestial as a single type of creation, "spiritual".

All creation is equally physical and spiritual. In fact only Humans created on the 6th Day had both a physical body and a spiritual covering. Angels are not merely spirits nor spiritual. Their jobs are the literal stars providing light and signs via constellations. Genesis 1:14-15

"And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so."

This is the purpose of those created Celestial beings or bodies, the Angels. God told us in the very first chapter when and why angels were created. That is why Job 38 calls them "morning stars". Strangely enough the word angel is not in that verse, yet you claim it is about angels. Yet the word star is first mentioned in Genesis 1 and you more than likely, call that nonsense. They literally are the same Celestial bodies/beings.