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Rev_13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

See God wrote and published a movie, and we are all in it, He did such a good Job, He determined the day and the Hour that Christ would be sacrificed for us, He has even seeing teh end of it all, so great being His power,

Rev_22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

yet here mankind is worrying about wheter He will be saved or not, what ever happened to faith, so mankind just keeps changing the ending, a bit like God sitting up there in Heaven watching youtube , oh look there is another alternate ending to my movie, men are not very good at this, why dont the just give up and believe Me.

Mat_17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
 

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He determined the day and the Hour that Christ would be sacrificed for us
imo you are taking a passage that describes how Christ is slain when we create the "world" and making it into something that it is not. God did not determine the day and hour, founding the world did; and God did not found the world (passing away)
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yet here mankind is worrying about wheter He will be saved or not
nah, most ppl don't worry about this much at all, i guess. or maybe i am misunderstanding you here.
so i'll say that i have yet to meet a believer who seemed very worried; they strike me as pretty much universally way too confident of this, in fact.

so can you give an example? who is worried?
 

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Well what does one say.

Eph_2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

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Heb_11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

But it seems that actually having faith and believing God is frowned upon by the religious the pharisees, the learned and the lawyers. So you see there are some who actually do believe God, and it matters not what others think. all that matters is God is faith full and He is true and He, unlike men does not break His promises.

Heb_12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

So I will trust Him, since He does know what He is doing.

nah, most ppl don't worry about this much at all, i guess. or maybe i am misunderstanding you here


Oh you did miss the bit about, keeping the Sabbath, keeping the law, going to church reading the bible, as Jesus put it,

Luk 10:38 Now it came to pass, as they went, that he entered into a certain village: and a certain woman named Martha received him into her house.
Luk 10:39 And she had a sister called Mary, which also sat at Jesus' feet, and heard his word.
Luk 10:40 But Martha was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord, dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me.
Luk 10:41 And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things:
Luk 10:42 But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.

Where do you want to be,

Mar 10:13 And they brought young children to him, that he should touch them: and his disciples rebuked those that brought them.
Mar 10:14 But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.

funny how religion wont let anyone near Him lest they find teh light and the life that is in Him and walk away from teh man made religions.

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You have never seen a movie where someone changed their mind?
so now you are playing coy with the concept, even though you understood my intent there? maybe not

actors in movies follow a script, and if the script has them changing their minds, then yes.
But obviously if they follow a script such as you imply and you watch the movie again no change will occur
which is the point. We are not acting out some movie that has already been produced, a la nihilism,
even though a mother could reliably guess what one of her children would do; the child still has free will,
and is not bound by mom's predictions, even if mom is 100% accurate
so then nihilism takes a valid perspective and makes it into a counterfeit
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so now you are playing coy with the concept, even though you understood my intent there? maybe not

actors in movies follow a script, and if the script has them changing their minds, then yes.
But obviously if they follow a script such as you imply and you watch the movie again no change will occur
which is the point. We are not acting out some movie that has already been produced, a la nihilism,
even though a mother could reliably guess what one of her children would do; the child still has free will,
and is not bound by mom's predictions, even if mom is 100% accurate
so then nihilism takes a valid perspective and makes it into a counterfeit
imo
Understand I AM
I take opportunity, yes, but it is a good exercise toward understanding the nature of freewill and the reality of time.

I maintain that time is the real time experience detail of a timeless I AM reality in God. Therefore, there is no actual freewill during the midst of what we perceive as time, but only occurs/occurred in the timeless ("twinkling of an eye") I AM reality "before the foundation of the world." And so, there is also no script per se, but rather us doing what we do because it is who we are in that I AM reality. Meaning that we could no more actually change our mind than I AM could change to be something He is not.
 
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I take opportunity, yes, but it is a good exercise toward understanding the nature of freewill and the reality of time.

I maintain that time is the real time experience detail of a timeless I AM reality in God. Therefore, there is no actual freewill during the midst of what we perceive as time, but only occurs/occurred in the timeless ("twinkling of an eye") I AM reality "before the foundation of the world." And so, there is also no script per se, but rather us doing what we do because it is who we are in that I AM reality. Meaning that we could no more actually change our mind than I AM could change to be something He is not.

God being outside can 'tune' the contents of the timeless reality. Though to us inside we wouldn't know we were sent on a different path, and may think where we are is an inevitable fact.

How I picture it is with the pruning of a bonsai tree compressed into a single instant.
 
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Jesus can only be the,

Heb_12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;

if we put down teh pen and stop writing our own book, or as Jesus put it,

Mar_14:36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.

thats the part, more of Him and less of us.

We die daily, dying hurts.