Who do you think will win Trump or Biden or Kanye?

[Earburner]

Reagan will always be "The Gipper." C'mon, you knew that. The point is that Reagan, mostly through an effort of will, managed to avoid the kinds of embarrassments we're seeing from Trump's increasingly obvious decline.

He never lost his dignity, and rarely did you see any sign at all of his declining awareness. The world is laughing at us, because everyone can see Trump's decline.

LOL! Reagan quoted it, and it was from the same source that I did, as I had stated!

"One for the Gipper" means to pursue success or victory in honor of someone else.
This set phrase refers to celebrated Notre Dame football player George Gipp, aka ("the Gipper")."

 

[Earburner]

Actually, it isn't. It's in Latin, and for once you have it right. There is an obscure message there, but it's not what you seem to think it is. Hint: Virgil.



Checkable source?



Evidence for that? Checkable sources.

Since you consider the words "novus ordo seclorum" to be an obscure message, maybe your suspicion is telling you to investigate of why that is. No one can help those who refuse to see.

I provided reputable sources. Therefore, its up to you to first read the reports from those credible authors, before you pose a question about evidence. Other than that, I cannot help your denial.

 

[Yehren]

Since you consider the words "novus ordo seclorum" to be an obscure message, maybe your suspicion is telling you to investigate of why that is. No one can help those who refuse to see.

What do you think that phrase means? It's not what you seem to think it is.

You provided no source at all for your quote, which is apparently faked. And the other source provided no checkable sources, just bald assertions. But what do you think "novus ordo seclorum" actually means?

It does not mean "new world order", nor was it intended to mean that.
Novus Ordo Seclorum - History of Motto on Great Seal's Unfinished Pyramid

 

[Yehren]

LOL! Reagan quoted it, and it was from the same source that I did, as I had stated!

"One for the Gipper" means to pursue success or victory in honor of someone else.
This set phrase refers to celebrated Notre Dame football player George Gipp, aka ("the Gipper")."

You didn't know that one of Reagan's most notable roles was as George Gipp, hence his nickname.

Combining that as we are discussing Donald Trump's cognitive difficulties, was rather obviously a reference to Reagan.

 

[Earburner]

You didn't know that one of Reagan's most notable roles was as George Gipp, hence his nickname.

Combining that as we are discussing Donald Trump's cognitive difficulties, was rather obviously a reference to Reagan.

Ummm... apparently not. But now that you mention it, I do recall Reagan playing the part as a Football hero, but I failed to make the connection. Thanks!

However, here are the facts of the real person of George Gipp.
George Gipp, byname the Gipper, (born February 18, 1895, Laurium, Michigan, U.S.—died December 14, 1920, South Bend, Indiana), American gridiron football player at the University of Notre Dame (1917–20) who became a school legend.

 

[Earburner]

What do you think that phrase means? It's not what you seem to think it is.

You provided no source at all for your quote, which is apparently faked. And the other source provided no checkable sources, just bald assertions. But what do you think "novus ordo seclorum" actually means?

It does not mean "new world order", nor was it intended to mean that.
Novus Ordo Seclorum - History of Motto on Great Seal's Unfinished Pyramid

Already been there! GHW Bush and many others have popularized the slang form.

The "New World (global) Order" is being built upon the results of *their "experiment", of what the US is.
As the US is a Nation of States, governed by a Federal gov't, the UN is the World gov't, governing the Nation States.
* Note- the Global Elite Banking Cartel.

From the Biblical perspective of Rev.,
1. The Beast with 10H is the Banking Elite.
2. The Beast with 2H is the US.
3. The Image of the 10H Beast is the UN.

 

[Yehren]

There is no "slang form." It's just a faulty translation of something entirely different than the conspiracy buffs want it to be.

 

[Earburner]

There is no "slang form." It's just a faulty translation of something entirely different than the conspiracy buffs want it to be.

Then your historicist mindset, for double documented evidence is going to have to stand in the face of Bill Clinton, "Dub-ya" Bush and "Daddy" Bush (if he were here), and tell them that they are "conspiracy buffs".

 

[Yehren]

Then your historicist mindset, for double documented evidence is going to have to stand in the face of Bill Clinton, "Dub-ya" Bush and "Daddy" Bush (if he were here), and tell them that they are "conspiracy buffs".

You've just confused Bush's idea with the motto on our currency. Two different things, as you seem to now realize.

I've shown you what the man who wrote the motto meant. And he was a Latin scholar.

 

[Earburner]

As I have said before, "conspiracy theories" are a two way street.
1. History reveals that if the people say contrary to that which is said by "authority", that is a conspiracy against "authority ".

2. History reveals that when "authority" says only that which they want the people to know, that is a conspiracy against the people .

 

[Earburner]

You've just confused Bush's idea with the motto on our currency. Two different things, as you seem to now realize.

I've shown you what the man who wrote the motto meant. And he was a Latin scholar.

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It plainly says what it says! "New world order for the ages." Slang- New World Order, NWO, One world government.

And btw, the pyramid depicted on the dollar bill is complete. The capstone is hovering above it to show detachment, of which is exactly what the case is with the banking elite! They are the Puppet Masters, and they are virtually untouchable!

 

[Yehren]

It plainly says what it says! "New world order for the ages." NWO, One world government.

Nope.

Thus the motto Novus ordo seclorum was translated by Charles Thomson, a Latin expert who was involved in the design of the Great Seal and proposed it, as "A new order of the ages." He said it was to signify "the beginning of the new American Era" as of the date of the Declaration of Independence

He wrote it. So his opinion prevails.

 

[Earburner]

Nope.

Thus the motto Novus ordo seclorum was translated by Charles Thomson, a Latin expert who was involved in the design of the Great Seal and proposed it, as "A new order of the ages." He said it was to signify "the beginning of the new American Era" as of the date of the Declaration of Independence

He wrote it. So his opinion prevails.

To stay with your line of thinking, yes the US has surely been a beginning of "a new order for the ages", and has been *"making fire come down from heaven", in the Grand Area of its appointed area of operation, but that is NOT the end of the futuristic story.
There is the extension of that theory for global control, of which is the ultimate goal by the Banking Elite.

It appears that you often lose sight of what that "capstone" signifies, or is it simply you just don't know?

*Ref. Revelation 13:13

 

[Yehren]

To stay with your line of thinking, yes the US has surely been a beginning of "a new order for the ages", and has been *"making fire come down from heaven", in the Grand Area of its appointed area of operation, but that is NOT the end of the futuristic story.
There is the extension of that theory for global control, of which is the ultimate goal by the Banking Elite.

You think the founders of the United States had that kind of godlike foresight? No, they were of the enlightenment philosophers, not right-wing fascists.

It appears that you often lose sight of what that "capstone" signifies, or is it simply you just don't know?

Perhaps knowing that many of the Founders were masons might be a clue, but given the people who actually designed the seal, maybe not. An important clue is the Roman numerals for 1776 on the base, and the 13 finished levels of the pyramid, along with the "new order of the ages." The founders were aware that they were starting something entirely new, and that the work was unfinished with them. Hence the Latin phrase: "annuit coeptis." (he approves our undertaking) The first design had "Deo Favente" (God favors it) but this was substituted, because it had only ten letters, not thirteen. And you see the number 13 repeatedly in this design, mostly because of the original 13 states, but likely also for numerologic reasons, related to masonic beliefs and the 13th lunar month of a year. The 13th month was shorter and irregular, and considered in a number of cultures to be auspicous.

As to the eye floating over the missing captstone, it is a matter of some controversy as to whether it's a masonic symbol or the illustration of divine providence looking over the enterprise which He has approved. Likely both.

 

[Josho]

So far in this thread poll

- 18 people reckon Trump will win
- 2 people reckon Biden will win
- 2 are unsure who will win

By the way, I still haven't found one Christian prophet with a prophecy of Biden winning.

A lot seem to be prophesying "Trump will win 2020."

But for all you know, one of the lesser known prophets might prophesy Biden winning, as there are a lot that we don't hear of or read.

 

[Candidus]

Biden is going to win! Or, perhaps he said that he was going to lose... he said so! Biden said that he was going to beat Biden!

 

[Josho]

Biden is going to win! Or, perhaps he said that he was going to lose... he said so! Biden said that he was going to beat Biden!

I think if Biden was to get a man bun it would definitely improve his chances!

 

[Yehren]

Biden continues to widen his lead against Trump. So far, Biden has offered a more realistic plan of action for the pandemic, and outlined how he would restore U.S. to a leadership role in the world, but has mostly allowed Trump to self-destruct in public appearances.

Unless Trump's cognitive issues clear up soon, the only person capable of beating Biden will be Biden. And he is a democrat.

Still, Trump's ongoing self-deconstruction will make it hard to lose.

 

[Earburner]

1. You think the founders of the United States had that kind of godlike foresight? No, they were of the enlightenment philosophers, not right-wing fascists.

2. Perhaps knowing that many of the Founders were masons might be a clue, but given the people who actually designed the seal, maybe not. An important clue is the Roman numerals for 1776 on the base, and the 13 finished levels of the pyramid, along with the "new order of the ages." The founders were aware that they were starting something entirely new, and that the work was unfinished with them. Hence the Latin phrase: "annuit coeptis." (he approves our undertaking) The first design had "Deo Favente" (God favors it) but this was substituted, because it had only ten letters, not thirteen. And you see the number 13 repeatedly in this design, mostly because of the original 13 states, but likely also for numerologic reasons, related to masonic beliefs and the 13th lunar month of a year. The 13th month was shorter and irregular, and considered in a number of cultures to be auspicous.

3. As to the eye floating over the missing captstone, it is a matter of some controversy as to whether it's a masonic symbol or the illustration of divine providence looking over the enterprise which He has approved. Likely both.

1. >Yes! But on the level of Luciferian.
2. >Yes, I agree! But which god? The God of Creation, or the wanna like god, called Lucifer? The latter I am sure and most positive!
3. >Look again. The capstone is there, hovering, floating above the pyramid, being unattached, but very much operative from the "top down" .

 

[Earburner]

We know what the pyramid symbolizes, but the capstone has been the unknown, of which as you say, there has been much speculation. But, as speculation is, it is to be researched and surveyed, for interestingly enough, though there have been "whistle blowers", the authority of the capstone has kept itself aloof from investigation.

Only recently, has enough truth been gathered to conclude that the all controlling vision/force of all worldly affairs pertaining to war and peace, has been fomented and supported through high finance by the wealthy elite.