Who do you think will win Trump or Biden or Kanye?
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Prayer Warrior
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The Democrats have been holding campaign/political events in churches ever since in can remember. These churches haven’t lost their tax exempt status.
Kind of a gaffe, considering some of the groups supporting him...
South Carolina Black Church, Once Torched by KKK, Burns Again
Fire officials in South Carolina were digging Wednesday through scorched wreckage of a historic black church gutted overnight under unknown circumstances.
At a news conference Wednesday, investigators said they were still determining what caused the fire Tuesday night at Mount Zion African Methodist Episcopal Church, near the rural town of Greeleyville. The collapsed roof and charred brick walls immediately brought to mind a crime 20 years ago, when the Ku Klux Klan torched that very same house of worship to the ground.
Black Church, Once Burned by KKK, Goes Up in Flames Again
KKK to hold parade in North Carolina celebrating Trump victory
A Ku Klux Klan group will hold a rally in North Carolina celebrating Donald Trump's election to the White House.
The group will hold the parade on Dec. 3 but has not yet specified a time or location.
KKK to hold parade in North Carolina celebrating Trump victory
Churches can be involved in social issues, but they can't endorse candidates if they want to retain tax exempt status. But it's unlikely that the church will be affected as long as Trump is in the WH.
Prayer Warrior
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I have seen Democrats endorse candidates in churches, and I’m not opposed to this. This is an LBJ prohibition that never should have been allowed, IMO.
Behold
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Im not in favor of (forced) Transgender bathrooms in your Church, as ordered by the "law".
Im not in favor of your Pastor, Minister, or Bishop, being forced to "marry Gays" or face legal action and a closed and locked Church.
If you think this isn't coming, then vote for Biden, and remember i told you this on June 24, 2020, a Wednesday.
Really.
So, unless both of those situations fill you with glee and rainbow excitement type joy, then hold your nose and vote for Trump.
A vote for Trump is not a vote for Trump, its a vote to hold back and push back against the crazy and the immoral for as long as you can, by using the power and leverage of your Vote.
George W. Bush thought so, planned a crackdown. Guess how many he got? Right. What do you have?
Government hand-outs always come with government control. And yes, I know no one classifies his particular one as a "hand-out." But that's what it is.
Appeals Court Orders Flynn Case Dismissal, After Years-Long Legal Saga
Appeals court orders Flynn case dismissal, after years-long legal saga
Appeals court orders Flynn case dismissal, after years-long legal saga
I don't think those stories are going to work, this time. Cry "wolf!" too often...
That's the possibility that has Trump terrified.
Cristo Rei
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There is a difference between terrorists supporting politicians and politicians supporting terrorists... Big difference
The right doesn't support terrorists
The left are supporting the looting, the arson, the rioting, the crimes, Antifa
Trump, after being endorsed by the Klan said that there were some very good people among them. It's kind of a mutual admiration.
So far, the organizations involved in the rioting have been the right wing. Would you like me to show you, again?
Nice try...
FBI finds no evidence of Antifa’s involvement in national unrest
FBI finds no evidence of Antifa’s involvement in national unrest
Cristo Rei
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Ahh so its the right wing people who are looting and tearing down statues...
It's the republican states that are burning to the ground... Yea sure...
They know who their friends are.
"Some very good people", one politician said of the white nationalists and KKK.
Sounds like support to me.
Well, let's take a look...
Despite claims by Donald Trump the FBI can find no evidence that Antifa is involved in any riots.
Despite claims by Donald Trump the FBI can find no evidence that Antifa is involved in any riots. - The Immoral Minority
Twitter removes account of white nationalist group posing as antifa online
The move comes as disinformation spreads online amid protests and unrest.
Twitter removes account of white nationalist group posing as antifa online
Yes, so far, that's what authorities have found. And yes, I know the conditioned reponse; "they are all lying!!!" That excuse doesn't play so well, anymore. If you side with the rioters, and you don't trust the FBI, that should be a tip-off for you.
I think there are extremists on the fringes of both the left and right who are eager to take advantage of the unrest. I suspect that right-wing white nationalists might be behind some things, hoping to create a civil war or something. Then there's probably left-wing people thinking maybe they can seize power if they create enough chaos. I see both as threats to democracy.
Cristo Rei
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The democratic states are allowing these protests/riots to continue... Their governors and mayors are even encouraging this behaviour...
It seems that Republican voters in some places have minds of their own and are unwilling to walk lockstep with Trump.
2 Republicans opposed by Trump win in Kentucky, N. Carolina
In western North Carolina, GOP voters picked 24-year-old investor Madison Cawthorn, who uses a wheelchair following an accident, over Trump-backed real estate agent Lynda Bennett. The runoff was for the seat vacated by GOP Rep. Mark Meadows, who resigned to become Trump's chief of staff and joined his new boss in backing Bennett.
Kentucky Republican Rep. Thomas Massie, a libertarian-minded maverick who often clashes with GOP leaders, was renominated for a sixth House term. Trump savaged Massie in March as a “disaster for America” who should be ejected from the party after he forced lawmakers to return to Washington during a pandemic to vote on a huge economic relief package.
No doubt Trump will win in Kentucky, but support for him there is considerably less than in 2016 when he won by 29.8%. The poll I saw has him ahead of Biden by 16%. So he'll win there but clearly he's lost support there.
North Carolina is a different story where he won by 3.7% in 2016. Biden is ahead there now.
2 Republicans opposed by Trump win in Kentucky, N. Carolina
In western North Carolina, GOP voters picked 24-year-old investor Madison Cawthorn, who uses a wheelchair following an accident, over Trump-backed real estate agent Lynda Bennett. The runoff was for the seat vacated by GOP Rep. Mark Meadows, who resigned to become Trump's chief of staff and joined his new boss in backing Bennett.
Kentucky Republican Rep. Thomas Massie, a libertarian-minded maverick who often clashes with GOP leaders, was renominated for a sixth House term. Trump savaged Massie in March as a “disaster for America” who should be ejected from the party after he forced lawmakers to return to Washington during a pandemic to vote on a huge economic relief package.
No doubt Trump will win in Kentucky, but support for him there is considerably less than in 2016 when he won by 29.8%. The poll I saw has him ahead of Biden by 16%. So he'll win there but clearly he's lost support there.
North Carolina is a different story where he won by 3.7% in 2016. Biden is ahead there now.
As right-wing extremists have been exposed as the violent rioters, they have withdrawn from protests,which are much more peaceful now.
Protests Becoming More Peaceful Due to Federal Law Enforcement: Acting DHS Head
Protests Becoming More Peaceful Due to Federal Law Enforcement: Acting DHS Head
‘VIOLENT INSTIGATORS’
‘Boogaloo Boys’ race-war extremists arrested ‘with molotov cocktails and bomb supplies’ at George Floyd rally in Vegas
- Updated: 12 Jun 2020, 10:37
Prosecutors have said the men self-identified as part of the "Boogaloo Boys" movement - a loose internet based network linked to right-wing extremism.
‘Boogaloo Boys’ arrested ‘with molotov cocktails & bomb supplies’ at Floyd rally
Peaceful protestors are continuing to exercise their First Amendment rights to speak out and gather peacefully.
Supporting the Constitution? Those blackguards!
Cristo Rei
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So you say
That is incorrect. This is what that article says...
The FBI’s Washington Field Office “has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence” in the violence that occurred on May 31
Authorities haven't found that it is right wing groups that is rioting...
All you have shown is that Antifa were not involved in the violence that took place on the 31st of May.
Im going to assume you misinterpreted the findings from the FBI and ask you to read it again and correct yourself...
Black people are rioting but for argument sake let's assume their all right wingers...
So, what we have then is democratic governors allowing these riots to continue. Care to explain why???
This, in retrospect, will likely be seen as the moment when republicans got some backbone and began to defy Trump's pompous demands. He's much less of a threat to moderate republicans, as GOP voters turn away from him.
Well, let's take a look:
‘VIOLENT INSTIGATORS’
‘Boogaloo Boys’ race-war extremists arrested ‘with molotov cocktails and bomb supplies’ at George Floyd rally in Vegas
- Updated: 12 Jun 2020, 10:37
THREE men arrested at a George Floyd protest with Molotov cocktails have been accused of having bomb-making equipment, weapons and makeshift booby traps in their homes.
Prosecutors have said the men self-identified as part of the "Boogaloo Boys" movement - a loose internet based network linked to right-wing extremism.
‘Boogaloo Boys’ arrested ‘with molotov cocktails & bomb supplies’ at Floyd rally
There's more. Would you like to see some more?
So let's look at that, again...
As The Nation reports, the FBI’s Washington office prepared the briefing for Trump earlier on that same day. Using agents on the ground, online resources, informants, and every other tool the FBI could leverage, their finding was that antifa was not behind incidents of violence and looting. The situation report ran through a list of such incidents, including those such as throwing bricks or destruction of property, which had featured predominantly on the news. None of the results found any evidence of antifa involvement.
And that wasn’t the end of this information. According to The Nation, the FBI has been issuing reports daily on concerning events. None of these reports “contained any evidence of antifa violence.”
FBI found no evidence that antifa was involved in violence, and of course Trump ignored them
Someone got it wrong. Figured out who, yet? And notice that once Federal law enforcement cracked down on the right-wing violence, things are much more peaceful, now.
Protests Becoming More Peaceful Due to Federal Law Enforcement: Acting DHS Head
Protests Becoming More Peaceful Due to Federal Law Enforcement: Acting DHS Head
No surprise there.
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