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Yep..... Someone's gotta.
Yes I believe all are given the opportunity for to believe is only a choice away, and that choice can be gained by hearing. I will continue to share to all even if they reject the gospel. Yet, God knows who will accept that choice and those who will not. To those who will not, nothing I can say will sway their decision. With all the faith He has given me to believe, He has given them just as much, if not more, to not believe.Yes, many are destined for judgment, but not predetermined, for all have the opportunity for saving faith, Jews and Gentiles alike:
Romans 2:14-15
Even Gentiles, who do not have God’s written law, show that they know his law when they instinctively obey it, even without having heard it. They demonstrate that God’s law is written in their hearts, for their own conscience and thoughts either accuse them or tell them they are doing right.
That is a completely nonsensical comment. Please elaborate and use scripture, if you can.
Tares are meant to be bundled and burned. It's pretty simple. Matthew 13 says that the tares are the children of the wicked one. The angels are the reapers and the devil sowed them. So the tares were meant to be burned. Mark 4 says Jesus spoke in parables because if he didn't, they would understand, be converted and their sins would be forgiven. Appearently Jesus didn't want that to happen.
As for the false teachers, unless you think Satan himself is personally is teaching them, the false teachers are those doing his bidding. But who sent them to the tares? God did. See 2 Th 2:11. God is the one sending the strong delusion. See for yourself:
2Th 2:10
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Yes, I can go with that.... They are tares also in the same way a true teacher is both a sheep (of Christ's) and a shepherd.Yes, tares are to be burned, and false teachers are agents of Satan, and do not do the reaping, as they also are tares.
Yes, I can go with that.... They are tares also in the same way a true teacher is both a sheep (of Christ's) and a shepherd.
Though they be agents of Satan, they are still part of God's overall will.
If God sent strong delusions, spoke in parables and declared the end from the beginning, they must be part of God's will. Not favorably for them, but still part of the overall will of God.False teachers are not of God's will. They are agents of Satan doing his will. God doesn't undermine Himself.
If God sent strong delusions, spoke in parables and declared the end from the beginning, they must be part of God's will.
Not favorably for them, but still part of the overall will of God.
Yes, John... I have heard of them as well as the devine will of God.Perhaps you've not heard about the perfect will of God, and the permissive will of God.
He, of course, permits all kinds terrible and evil things to happen.
But, sometimes, He prevents bad things from happening ...
... because they would interfere with His perfect will.
One example: I know without any doubt at all that I was protected, provided for, and many etc's
(which we considered to be miracles) while I was evangelising in Communist Eastern Europe.
If God sent strong delusions, spoke in parables and declared the end from the beginning, they must be part of God's will. Not favorably for them, but still part of the overall will of God.
That's almost true.... Had you said it is God's will that teachers that ARE his teach the Word, you'd be correct. Furthermore, those that ARE his don't call evil good and good evil. It doesn't change the fact that God fore ordained them to condemnation.That is not the same as the sinful defiance of false teachers. God's will is that teachers who claim to be His teach the word. We are not to be going around calling evil good and good evil.
Isaiah 5:20
What sorrow for those who say that evil is good and good is evil, that dark is light and light is dark, that bitter is sweet and sweet is bitter.
That's almost true.... Had you said it is God's will that teachers that ARE his teach the Word, you'd be correct. Furthermore, those that ARE his don't call evil good and good evil. It doesn't change the fact that God fore ordained them to condemnation.
Not all that name the name of Christ are His.... Some do so and God said he doesn't even know them. Yet, they are part of God's will.
I do not disagree God is correct in damning those He judges. What I present is what we are taught by God, to love your enemies, elect or non-elect.
To be sure also, sanctification comes from the HolySpirit. It is the love of Christ that led Him to the cross, so yes it is enough to give us sanctification.
What I see here in this world are human beings, born into total depravity, in bondage to sin. Jesus Christ being the only solution to sin and the final judgement. God wants all to be reconciled to Him, yet He knows the hearts that will be. I know only what is revealed to me through His word, being the foremost authority, and His HolySpirit, being the final authority. Thereby every person I see is another person waiting to be set free of the trappings of this world.
I have a neighbor who is vehemently atheist. He told me he was born and forced Catholic. He obviously left the church. Long story short I told him God wants to deliver us from evil, which he denied. "It doesn't say that in the Bible" he said. He was trying to go so far as to say evil didn't exist, which I disproved. Then he stood on, "Well I don't believe in sin." I cited the Lords prayer, and he melted. Then I said, "To be bold, everything everywhere wants to be delivered from evil." It is Satan that needs to be rebuked, not the nonbeliever. I can only attempt to retrieve from the claws of Satan, as many as I can, God willing. To be sure it says to love your neighbor as yourself. I can only pray God gives me the wisdom, time, and perseverance to awake my neighbor for his impending doom. Do you not think he belittles my view, and my God, yet I accept that in humility, by the love and grace given by the HolySpirit. Should I be surprised he sees the cross as foolishness? If I gave up on him, I might as well give up on myself. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you? Or should I set myself at the "Christian hypocrite standard?"
Matthew 25:31-46
I will show kindness to the least of all of these, by loving my enemy. To be great in the Kingdom of God is to be servant to all. I will serve the elect as well as the non-elect.
Many who claim to be Christ's aren't. That is the point. God doesn't undermine Himself. People are not foreordained to condemnation. They are foreordained to hear the truth of the Gospel and to decide for or against God, and it is solely their choice. God only knows what the choice will be, but He doesn't orchestrate it.
Matthew 18:14
In the same way your Father in heaven is not willing that any of these little ones should perish.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
He loved the world, not everyone in it. Many if not all the parables demonstrate this. Furthermore, in the very parable we started this discourse (the bundling of the tares) Jesus said the world was the field and people were the seed.God doesn;t want ANYONE to perish. Who do you think he sent His Son to suffer and die for? THE WORLD!!
John 3:16 is the Gospel message in a nutshell, and no morphing into some other message is acceptable.
Learn about suffering from the "non-elect"??? What convolution!
We suffer because we live in a fallen world along with the unsaved and the saved alike.
God doesn't CHOOSE who will and who will not become His elect.
He KNOWS who will and who will not be His elect.
WE do the choosing.
He has a sovereign plan for EVERYONE,
Since not everyone will fulfill this plan as you wrote it, I'd have to hcange it to "all the elect," instead.and that is that everyone come to know Him and become the image of His Son, Jesus Christ.
We are ALL predestined to the Lake of Fire at birth, and it is by the work and the call of Holy Spirit that the truth of Jesus Christ as Saviour and Redeemer is revealed to us. Those of us who receive Christ are then considered predestined to become like Jesus.
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People are not foreordained to condemnation. ...
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We are ALL predestined to the Lake of Fire at birth,
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