Phoneman777 said:
No, I wanna know why a man who was well known for fearlessly proclaiming the power and salvation of God before rulers and kings would suddenly in his 2nd letter to the Thessalonians become so timid and reluctant to reveal that Michael, who you claim is the Restrainer, has his celestial foot on the neck of Antichrist.
All the pieces of the puzzle fit when you apply Prewrath rapture. Michael has been Israel's protector for quite some time now...
Jude 1:9 NIV
But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not himself dare to condemn him for slander but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”
Michael is restrained in the middle of the 70th week so God can send those who have not believed the truth, a strong delusion.
Eph 1:13-14 NIV And you also were included in Christ
when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.
2 John 1:2 NIV
because of the truth, which lives in us and will be with us forever:
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blessedhope said:
I feel the Restrainer is every true Christ came in the flesh Believer, once after the rapture they are gone and the whore church will be.The holy Ghost will stay on the earth as we see many will be under the Alter. But in the trib the Holy ghost will not seal anymore and you will have to do the walk and the talk and DIE!
bhope, tradition tells you it's the church, but if you study more closely we can see the restrainer as Michael the angel at the abomination of desolation. The word "arise" in Dan 12:1 is translated "amad" and can also mean to...
1.
stand still, stop, cease moving, of moon Joshua 10:13 (J E; "" וַיִּדֹּם), sun Joshua 10:13, both, Habakkuk 3:11; of person 1 Samuel 9:27 (opposed to עָבַר), 2 Samuel 2:28 (opposed to רָדַף), עִמְדוּ עֲמֹ֫דוּ Nahum 2:9 +;
stop flowing (of oil) 2 Kings 4:6;
remain standing, with תַּחְתֵּינוּ Judges 7:21; 1 Samuel 14:9 etc.; of eruption in skin =
remain unchanged Leviticus 13:23,28; so (without ׳ת) Leviticus 13:5,37 (all P).
2.
be inactive 2 Chronicles 20:17 (opposed to לְהִלָּחֵם, + הִתְיַצְּבוּ).
3.
stop, cease doing a thing 2 Kings 13:18; with מִן Genesis 29:35; Genesis 30:9 (both J), Joel 1:15.
4.
tarry, delay Genesis 45:9 (E), Joshua 10:19 (J E;
opposed to רָדַף), 1 Samuel 20:38 (opposed to מְהֵרָה, חוּשָׁה), +.
5.
stand afar מֵרָחוֺק Exodus 20:18,21 (E), Isaiah 59:14; Psalm 38:12, ׳בְּר Psalm 10:1; ׳מִנֶּגֶד מֵר 2 Kings 2:7;
stand aloof, מִנֶֹּגֶד Obadiah 11; Psalm 38:12.
6.
stand (silent) Job 32:16.
7.
grow flat, insipid (Gie), taste of wine Jeremiah 48:11 (figurative of Moab),
or remain unchanged (so most, in that case compare 3b). — עָמְדִי Daniel 11:1b is corrupt, read probably עָמַדְתִּי, or עָמַד (מִיכָאֵל subject), join then to Daniel 10:21
and strike out Daniel 11:1a; so Bev Behrm MartiKau.
Why does Michael stop moving? So God can send them a strong delusion 2 Thess 2:10-12 NIV.
It is clear that there are angelic powers over world empires and leaders and nobody is going to come to power in the land of Israel if the angel of Israel (Michael) prevents them.
Dan 12:1 NIV “
At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered.
2 Thess 2:6-12 NIV And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, 10 and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11
For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.
Rev 12:6-12 NIV The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days. 7
And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down--that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him. 10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: "Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ. For the accuser of our brothers, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down. 11 They overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death. 12 Therefore rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short."