Why Christians not under the Torah

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dak

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I'll stick with the New Covenant in Jesus' Blood.

Hebrews 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete.

There is so much wrong with that rendering and your perspective.

In that He says renewed, He has made the former old: and that which is waxing old and decaying is near to vanishing.

Waxing old, decaying, (and dying), are references to the flesh and the physical, which does just that. This is speaking of the Sanhedrin, Pharisees, Sadducees, Chief Priests, Scribes, and their carnal minded understanding and interpretations of the Torah, which were erroneous and against the people.

Moreover the former is not the same as the first, which is an important distinction and why I render protos that way herein, for the first, (Exodus 19->31), will never pass away. However it was taken from Yisrael because of the golden calf incident, (Exodus 32), where the first two tablets of the Ten Words were broken by Mosheh when he beheld what they had done.

After that a renewed covenant was given, based on the logos within the rhema-spoken words in the first covenant, and that covenant is found in Exodus 34. That covenant is susceptible to annulment because it is personal and individual, and if later the rulers of the people began to misunderstand and misinterpret that covenant then it could indeed be abolished. The renewed covenant in Jer. 31 and Heb. 8 is the first covenant being renewed and written upon the heart by way of the logos contained within it and as expounded in the Testimony of the Master in the Gospel accounts, (without understanding his Testimony one will never get it).
 

Jack

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There is so much wrong with that rendering and your perspective.

In that He says renewed, He has made the former old: and that which is waxing old and decaying is near to vanishing.

Waxing old, decaying, (and dying), are references to the flesh and the physical, which does just that. This is speaking of the Sanhedrin, Pharisees, Sadducees, Chief Priests, Scribes, and their carnal minded understanding and interpretations of the Torah, which were erroneous and against the people.

Moreover the former is not the same as the first, which is an important distinction and why I render protos that way herein, for the first, (Exodus 19->31), will never pass away. However it was taken from Yisrael because of the golden calf incident, (Exodus 32), where the first two tablets of the Ten Words were broken by Mosheh when he beheld what they had done.

After that a renewed covenant was given, based on the logos within the rhema-spoken words in the first covenant, and that covenant is found in Exodus 34. That covenant is susceptible to annulment because it is personal and individual, and if later the rulers of the people began to misunderstand and misinterpret that covenant then it could indeed be abolished. The renewed covenant in Jer. 31 and Heb. 8 is the first covenant being renewed and written upon the heart by way of the logos contained within it and as expounded in the Testimony of the Master in the Gospel accounts, (without understanding his Testimony one will never get it).
All you have given are YOUR opinions! Your opinions do not overrule Jesus. I'll stick with Jesus, God of the Bible and His Blood Covenant, the New Covenant!

Galatians 3:10

10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse;
 
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