Aspen, this would make a good thread topic..Why do we need free will?
You or me? Wanna start it? I'LL wait a bit to see if u do, my ole buddy..;]
You or me? Wanna start it? I'LL wait a bit to see if u do, my ole buddy..;]
Why did God love and forgive David so?
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Yep, I second that. :)
I know we have had similar threads...but not worded with the word "need" within it.
Most times the Sovereignty v Freewill threads go well. :)
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Way to stop a thread...Native American Relief Fund.
Not much can be said after That !
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ah, my bad, a little lower down for that one lol
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Good one! LOL
Hey @Miss Hepburn ...when are you starting the new thread then?
Or did you do it and I missed it in my "new posts" ?
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I know New Posts doesn' actually post the New Posts!..hope you saw bb left you a link.
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Idea...I clicked "watch" in New Posts...I get alerted to all things I'm not interested in,tho! Hahaha
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Adam and Eve are also mythological; this should be more directly understood. Adam and Eve are not literal people, as any Jew understands. Only Christians do that. This severely constrains the mythology, now this has to mean that, and that can only be this, etc
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maybe 'trending posts? got no idea what it does yetIdea...I clicked "watch" in New Posts...I get alerted to all things I'm not interested in,tho! Hahaha
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Maybe because David was one of His children even though David was a cold-blooded killer through and through
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Hmmm, putting aside the Genesis account for a moment: Chronicles, Job, Luke, Paul and Jude speak of "Adam" as a real and literal being.
1Co 15:45 So also it is written, The first man Adam ...
If "Adam" was more of a mythological / figurative entity to say "protos anthropos Adam" would be a rather redundant phrase. So apparently Paul, as any "Jew" did not grasp that as you state above.
Nevermind the further implications of what we could attempt to do to the text if we begin to assign or relegate it as mythology.
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I agree...I do expect to see Adam in the sweet by and by....
Even though I do believe that all that is written is always saying much more that what it appears to be saying.
@bbyrd009 ...even if you are right in how you think...I would never use the word mythical for what is written...maybe 'spiritual' if it did not actually happened in time...
So how do you see what is written about - " The first Adam, and The last Adam. " ? Is just one mythical, or both?
This to me is opening a can of old worms...maybe dead worms LOL
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well, "mythological" does not mean "fake" or "not real," the way we define "myth" today
they completely understood this, but just held a different definition of "mythology" than "false," what every Christian more or less believes it to mean; by design. Mythology is how truth is maintained and passed to the next generation before reading catches on; not the lie that logicians have made it into
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