Why do Christians prefer their Churches segregated..

[Chains Broken]

That's a non sequitur... I was not aroun d when whites had slaves and there's no evidence that any of my ancestors were slave owners so consequently I have no white guilt as I have not been involved in treating black people badly.,

Excuse me sir but I never mentioned slavery, and I certainly never accused you or anyone alive today for being responsible for it. I just asked if it's fair for you to be responsible for things other white people have said. For example, would you like to be held accountable Joe Biden's views on abortion juat because you share the same race as him? I know I wouldn't want someone to assume I support abortion.

You must be a woke liberal that believes white people are all racist and we are required now to bow down and continually serve black people to make up for past wrongs. Sad and pathetic in deed.

I'm not woke or a liberal and I don't believe any of those things. I'm simply saying that I don't think it's a good idea to make a generalization about someone based on their skin color. Yes I agree, it's racist for people to say they don't like you because of your skin color. However, they don't speak for everyone who shares their skin color, in the same way that Joe Biden and other woke white people don't speak for you and all white people when they say they support abortion.

 

[Phil .]

Belief requires isolation, exclusion and segregation, as belief is isolation, exclusion and segregation.

 

[St. SteVen]

Belief requires isolation, exclusion and segregation, as belief is isolation, exclusion and segregation.

I need to go think about that.
Oh wait, who is "I"? Nevermind.

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[Brakelite]

If you are going to play like you are Jews living under the old covenant... yer gonna have to do what they did on Saturday and quit being hypocrites!

What's interesting is that Jesus firmly rebuked the Jewish leaders for doing what they were doing, or not doing, on Sabbath, yet you want us to copy their ways? Maybe Israel had it all wrong, (after all, they killed their Messiah) and God has finally got a people heading in the right direction? SDAs.

Oh sure, it'd be rough for you—it might be a pretty sweet deal in his case, though.

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Be a great load off those wide troll like shoulders I'm sure.

 

[BarneyFife]

What's interesting is that Jesus firmly rebuked the Jewish leaders for doing what they were doing, or not doing, on Sabbath, yet you want us to copy their ways? Maybe Israel had it all wrong, (after all, they killed their Messiah) and God has finally got a people heading in the right direction? SDAs.

Be a great load off those wide troll like shoulders I'm sure.

When you try to argue with God, the results can be nothing but completely disastrous.

It's really quite sad, actually, when you can take a moment to detach yourself from the utterly insufferable jesterism that's been on display of late.

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[Big Boy Johnson]

Excuse me sir but I never mentioned slavery, and I certainly never accused you or anyone alive today for being responsible for it.

Here's the part you are missing.... black people today are trying to hold white people responsible for slavery. Wake up!

I'm simply saying that I don't think it's a good idea to make a generalization about someone based on their skin color.

That's exactly what a majority of blacks are doing now towards whites... so, have you called them out for this?

Probably not because you are too scared to say anything that mighty upset the black peoples.

God has finally got a people heading in the right direction? SDAs.

If this is true... then the Lord is not following His own New Covenant
that He established after taking the old covenant away.

In essence, you would be claiming the Lord is a fraud following this narrative.

Be a great load off those wide troll like shoulders I'm sure.

Yeah, anybody who dares to not agree with the false doctrines of the Saturday cult is a dreaded "troll"

No, you're just being a crybaby!

 

[BarneyFife]

Here's the part you are missing.... black people today are trying to hold white people responsible for slavery. Wake up!




That's exactly what a majority of blacks are doing now towards whites... so, have you called them out for this?

Probably not because you are too scared to say anything that mighty upset the black peoples.




If this is true... then the Lord is not following His own New Covenant
that He established after taking the old covenant away.

In essence, you would be claiming the Lord is a fraud following this narrative.




Yeah, anybody who dares to not agree with the false doctrines of the Saturday cult is a dreaded "troll" View attachment 42894

No, you're just being a crybaby!

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Trolling is not who you are—it's what you literally do 95+% of the time. And now you've outed yourself as the racist type of troll. Wake up!

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[Brakelite]

Here's the part you are missing.... black people today are trying to hold white people responsible for slavery. Wake up!

If my grandfather had stolen your grandmother's car, and I now possessed it and you only today discovered the duplicity and theft, would you not be justified in demanding it back? Or would I be justified in saying as you are doing now, it wasn't my fault, I didn't steal it, not my problem.

 

[Brakelite]

It isn't only slavery that was historically and significantly wrong with early American society. The manner in which land was stolen from native Americans, and they shunted like cattle cars into small sidings called 'reservations', was an abomination. What redress are the Indians getting? Money to build casinos of which white folk get a large cut, the Indians brought into greater bondage, and just a few benefiting.
Those black and red Americans who are in great need and desperately in need of healing... While they seek redress and justice for themselves and the next generations, you are arrogantly ignoring them and turning away saying it's their fault. Meanwhile, as you look down on them with such distaste they are perishing for want of the gospel and people who actually care about their welfare. While your attitude continues as it is, the word Christian as applying to your name brings dishonor to God and casts a strain on the church. And you criticise SDAs for obeying God commandments!!!

 

[BarneyFife]

It isn't only slavery that was historically and significantly wrong with early American society. The manner in which land was stolen from native Americans, and they shunted like cattle cars into small sidings called 'reservations', was an abomination. What redress are the Indians getting? Money to build casinos of which white folk get a large cut, the Indians brought into greater bondage, and just a few benefiting.
Those black and red Americans who are in great need and desperately in need of healing... While they seek redress and justice for themselves and the next generations, you are arrogantly ignoring them and turning away saying it's their fault. Meanwhile, as you look down on them with such distaste they are perishing for want of the gospel and people who actually care about their welfare. While your attitude continues as it is, the word Christian as applying to your name brings dishonor to God and casts a strain on the church. And you criticise SDAs for obeying God commandments!!!

Lol - there's an Adventist Lifestyle Center in South Dakota that's doing gratis ministry with local native Americans who are experiencing a devastating epidemic of Type II Diabetes. Former Las Vegas Chef Mark Anthony is running the place these days. I emailed him last year when I was shopping for a place to vacation and he actually called me! We talked for about half an hour. Yeah, the world would be a much better place without us Adventists.

What else can we do as much as God has blessed us? You wouldn't believe the nonsense I was taught as a Southern Baptist child about tithing. I live way better on 90% (actually closer to 80) of what I make than I ever did on 100%. And I'm not talking mere finances either. I'm sure you know what I mean. Well, you had a story about one of your kids in a pretty harrowing situation recently, as I recall.

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[St. SteVen]

Yeah, the world would be a much better place without us Adventists.

Sorry. I strongly disagree!

BTW: what's your take on the 9th Commandment? (topic link below) You were probably avoiding it. - LOL

Is Lying a Violation of the Ten Commandments? - No. - Well, maybe... ???

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[Brakelite]

@BarneyFife
I remember seeing Mark on TV many years ago, it's great what he's doing, and I'm sure he won't be the only person ministering to the disenfranchised and downtrodden, bringing healing, health, and hope.

Well, you had a story about one of your kids in a pretty harrowing situation recently, as I recall.

Yes. It turns out he's particularly sensitive to any venom or poison or stingy creature that happens by. He reacts very badly to minimal bites such as mossies and sand flies etc. Spiders, serious reaction. Life threatening. And there's a lot of spiders lurking in the equipment He works with. His company bombs them regularly, and they come back. This is Australia however. It comes with the territory. "Suck it up son, deal with it", said his father never.

 

[Hobie]

@BarneyFife
I remember seeing Mark on TV many years ago, it's great what he's doing, and I'm sure he won't be the only person ministering to the disenfranchised and downtrodden, bringing healing, health, and hope.

Yes. It turns out he's particularly sensitive to any venom or poison or stingy creature that happens by. He reacts very badly to minimal bites such as mossies and sand flies etc. Spiders, serious reaction. Life threatening. And there's a lot of spiders lurking in the equipment He works with. His company bombs them regularly, and they come back. This is Australia however. It comes with the territory. "Suck it up son, deal with it", said his father never.

Wow, I've seen it with one of my friends grandchildren. They all came out super sensitive, we thought one was going to die after just petting a puppy. He swelled up to the point his eyes shut and couldn't speak, but I think they had an eppy pen nearby, and he made it no worse for the experience..

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

If my grandfather had stolen your grandmother's car, and I now possessed it and you only today discovered the duplicity and theft, would you not be justified in demanding it back? Or would I be justified in saying as you are doing now, it wasn't my fault, I didn't steal it, not my problem.

OK, so you believe like the marxists that all white people should be required to give all their assets to black people like they have done in south africa.

They would not apply top me because none of my ancestors were slave owners, so I'm keeping my assets if you don't mind. Actually, I'll be keeping them regardless of whether you mind or not.

The manner in which land was stolen from native Americans

Before the crackers ever got here the indians were murdering each other, enslaving each other, and taking each other's land and property.

So let's be fair about this and condemn the actions of the indians as well shall we?

And you criticise SDAs for obeying God commandments

Did God command the SDAs to be racist against black people?

Lots of racism in SDA history. They were just as racist as any other group of religious crackers out there.

 

[BarneyFife]

OK, so you believe like the marxists that all white people should be required to give all their assets to black people like they have done in south africa.

They would not apply top me because none of my ancestors were slave owners, so I'm keeping my assets if you don't mind. Actually, I'll be keeping them regardless of whether you mind or not.



Before the crackers ever got here the indians were murdering each other, enslaving each other, and taking each other's land and property.

So let's be fair about this and condemn the actions of the indians as well shall we?





Did God command the SDAs to be racist against black people?

Lots of racism in SDA history. They were just as racist as any other group of religious crackers out there.

I see you're back again and spouting your beloved hatred for all things different than you.

I missed you.

You know, anyone can claim to believe what Adventists believe, get into the water, and get a certificate.

Adventist ministers aren't mind-readers any more than Methodists, Baptists, or whatever it is you might not hate so much.

I'm sure you would've had no apprehension about simply denying all Southern US "peoples" church membership during the antebellum and Jim Crow eras to avoid risking the possibility of having racists in the ranks if you were an Adventist church leader.

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[Big Boy Johnson]

Looks like SDA racism is alive and well in these modern times!

 

[amigo de christo]

As a white person... I don't care to hang out with minorities that are racist.

I wasn't raised to be racist, and I don't care for minorities being racist towards me.

Since more and more minorities have become racist towards the white people, I'd rather avoid them altogether.

YE shall know a man or woman by their fruits . Not all are racist . you will know the ones who are
and who favor their race . those must be rebuked .
IF any church or its leaders set up a church and it focus on WHITE ,
or BLACK , or hispanic problems , GET THE HECK OUT OF IT . our focus is not on ANY RACE
they have been social gospel INFLUENCED and YOU MUST GET THE HECK OUT OF THEM .
however not all are racist . THEM you can keep company with .
but as i wrote above and afore , iF THE MOTTO OR MANTRA OF ANY CHURCH
IS FOCUSED ON ANY RACE OR GENDER , GET THE HECK OUT OF IT
ITS BIBLICAL DOCTRINE AND IT ALONE THAT WE MUST BE CENTERED UPON .

 

[Ritajanice]

When you try to argue with God, the results can be nothing but completely disastrous.

I had to quote this...how true is that...I did try in the early days,he,he,he...I know my place now!...LOL.

I think this was meant for me as a reminder of days or times gone by...LOL.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

you will know the ones who are
and who favor their race . those must be rebuked

But now days, if you disagree with a black person they claim you're a racist.

If a white person does not have guilt for simply being white, that makes them a racist.

If a white person does not support reparations for blacks, this makes them a racist.

If a white person does not vote democrat, it means they are racist.

I really don't want to be around people that believe all this tripe.

 

[BarneyFife]

But now days, if you disagree with a black person they claim you're a racist.

If a white person does not have guilt for simply being white, that makes them a racist.

If a white person does not support reparations for blacks, this makes them a racist.

If a white person does not vote democrat, it means they are racist.

I really don't want to be around people that believe all this tripe.

Who's stopping you from avoiding people? Or is it just that you want to spread your own gospel of this avoidance?

Perhaps you'd like the government to remove these people you're talking about and send them away or imprison them.

What's your point? If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem.

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