Why do Christians prefer their Churches segregated..

[Big Boy Johnson]

and have found that these people often do not want help

They don't want help from no crackaz

It's sad but ever since obama became prez race relations are getting worse and worse.

I'm tired of hearing more and more black people being racist against white peoples

Makes me not want to associate with the black peoples since this is what many of them want... NO white peoples.

People usually enjoy their own culture. Mexican churches, Black churches. I think most people feel more comfortable in their own language and culture.

Yep and it's OK for blacks, hispanics, and asians to do that... but if the whites peoples do that... their racists!

 

[BarneyFife]

They don't want help from no crackaz View attachment 42733

It's sad but ever since obama became prez race relations are getting worse and worse.

I'm tired of hearing more and more black people being racist against white peoples

Makes me not want to associate with the black peoples since this is what many of them want... NO white peoples.




Yep and it's OK for blacks, hispanics, and asians to do that... but if the whites peoples do that... their racists! View attachment 42734

By all means, we wouldn't want to be caught "loving our enemies," now, would we? I guess you're okay loving them from the other side of the Good Samaritan trail, though.

I'm glad Christ didn't pass me by when I didn't want help.

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[BarneyFife]

Makes me not want to associate with the black peoples since this is what many of them want... NO white peoples.

This part is so racist, I'm actually feeling a little sick reading it the 2nd time.

You're actually saying you don't want to have anything to do with black people because there's a chance you might run into one of the "many" that might be racist.

Do unto others as they might do unto you? Really?

You need the Gospel's transforming power in your heart.

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[BarneyFife]

@Big Boy Johnson

Have you ever read the 4 gospels? I'm having a moment of strange incredulity here.

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@St. SteVen @Brakelite @amadeus

Am I seeing this thread activity incorrectly?

@Hobie
Do you think this thread should continue?
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[Cassandra]

Makes me not want to associate with the black peoples since this is what many of them want... NO white peoples.

So if there were a problem with a few people, you would assess everyone else the same attributes?
You know, I am kind of happy you don't want to associate with black "Peoples"* . I wouldn't wish your kind of interaction on anyone
You can go have coffee with your friends who share your thoughts, and congratulate yourselves on being masters of the universe.

*Actually, people is plural.

 

[BarneyFife]

So if there were a problem with a few people, you would assess everyone else the same attributes?

So it's not just me?

You can go have coffee with your friends who share your thoughts, and congratulate yourselves on being masters of the universe.

Frankly, I find this scene a little hard to picture.


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[Cassandra]

So it's not just me?



Frankly, I find this scene a little hard to picture.


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I don't. The arrogance is palpable. That type of thing has to be fed. Probably has a group that hangs around McDonalds for coffee, and knocks on everyone.
Happy Sabbath!

 

[amadeus]

@Big Boy Johnson

Have you ever read the 4 gospels? I'm having a moment of strange incredulity here.

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@St. SteVen @Brakelite @amadeus

Am I seeing this thread activity incorrectly?

Like too many threads on this forum this one has little that would be edifying to one who loves God. Help us dear Lord!

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

So if there were a problem with a few people, you would assess everyone else the same attributes?

As more and more of them become radicalized and increasingly racist against white peoples... I'm simply doing what they want which is to not associate with them. Lots of black folks don't want to be bothered by the white peoples cause they hate white peoples and are racist against them.

I have acquaintances that are black and we are polite to one another so we have no problem... but just as Jesus told us concerning ethic group rising against ethnic group in the last days... if I know they don't like me simply because my skin if different than their, then I'm going to grant them their wish and not associate with them.

This is what their racism demands and we should not be trying to insert ourselves someplace where we are not wanted.

I wouldn't wish your kind of interaction on anyone

Yeah, so I'm not for laying down to become a rug for others to walk in... if this is your problem then buzz off!

You can go have coffee with your friends who share your thoughts, and congratulate yourselves on being masters of the universe.

See now you are reading in to this things the father of lies is telling you.

I never said I thought I was better than black people... I'm saying love does not force itself upon others... and since a growing number of black peoples despise white peoples... I'm going to help them out by steering clear of them.

I don't care if you have a problem with that or not. If you are white, it's just a matter of time before some radicalized black person attacks you in some way because they believe... that you believe you have white supremacy and you think you are superior to them

This is what they are being taught, just like in South Africa... which lead to races wars that the blacks won over there.

I don't. The arrogance is palpable. That type of thing has to be fed. Probably has a group that hangs around McDonalds for coffee, and knocks on everyone.

Your ignorance is flowing thru your keyboard...

Like too many threads on this forum this one has little that would be edifying to one who loves God. Help us dear Lord!

If someone does not want the Lord... He'll eventually quit trying to fellowship with them and turns them over to a reprobate mind.

That's the premise I'm going with here as more and more black folks become radicalized and racist against white peoples... I'm going to depart from them as this is allowing them to have their free will.

I grew up playing sports and attending schools that has lots of minorities and we all got along back in the day just fine. I had no quarrels with them as I don't dislike anybody based on their skin color as some of the woke liberal baby killers here are claiming. (they be socialists ya know)

I'm simply noticing in the past couple decades how many on the left are talking and they are espousing racism against white peoples which I disagree with. Maybe some of the others here feel guilty for being white, I do not. I've never been racist towards any people of color and I'd appreciate it that they not be racist towards me because I'm white.

But since we are in the end times and the devil has created a firestorm of racism against white people... I'm not interested in participating in that as they demand that all white people bow down and feel guilty for being the color God made them as though God made some sort of mistake by making some people white.

It's ridiculous and I'm not going to partake in their political foolishness.
So, if black folks don't want to be around white folks... I can help with that concerning myself

 

[BarneyFife]

As more and more of them become radicalized and increasingly racist against white peoples... I'm simply doing what they want which is to not associate with them. Lots of black folks don't want to be bothered by the white peoples cause they hate white peoples and are racist against them.

I have acquaintances that are black and we are polite to one another so we have no problem... but just as Jesus told us concerning ethic group rising against ethnic group in the last days... if I know they don't like me simply because my skin if different than their, then I'm going to grant them their wish and not associate with them.

This is what their racism demands and we should not be trying to insert ourselves someplace where we are not wanted.




Yeah, so I'm not for laying down to become a rug for others to walk in... if this is your problem then buzz off!




See now you are reading in to this things the father of lies is telling you. View attachment 42762

I never said I thought I was better than black people... I'm saying love does not force itself upon others... and since a growing number of black peoples despise white peoples... I'm going to help them out by steering clear of them.

I don't care if you have a problem with that or not. If you are white, it's just a matter of time before some radicalized black person attacks you in some way because they believe... that you believe you have white supremacy and you think you are superior to them

This is what they are being taught, just like in South Africa... which lead to races wars that the blacks won over there.




Your ignorance is flowing thru your keyboard...




If someone does not want the Lord... He'll eventually quit trying to fellowship with them and turns them over to a reprobate mind.

That's the premise I'm going with here as more and more black folks become radicalized and racist against white peoples... I'm going to depart from them as this is allowing them to have their free will.

I grew up playing sports and attending schools that has lots of minorities and we all got along back in the day just fine. I had no quarrels with them as I don't dislike anybody based on their skin color as some of the woke liberal baby killers here are claiming. (they be socialists ya know)

I'm simply noticing in the past couple decades how many on the left are talking and they are espousing racism against white peoples which I disagree with. Maybe some of the others here feel guilty for being white, I do not. I've never been racist towards any people of color and I'd appreciate it that they not be racist towards me because I'm white.

But since we are in the end times and the devil has created a firestorm of racism against white people... I'm not interested in participating in that as they demand that all white people bow down and feel guilty for being the color God made them as though God made some sort of mistake by making some people white.

It's ridiculous and I'm not going to partake in their political foolishness. View attachment 42763
So, if black folks don't want to be around white folks... I can help with that concerning myself View attachment 42764

Have it your way, JONAH.

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[amadeus]

As more and more of them become radicalized and increasingly racist against white peoples... I'm simply doing what they want which is to not associate with them. Lots of black folks don't want to be bothered by the white peoples cause they hate white peoples and are racist against them.

I have acquaintances that are black and we are polite to one another so we have no problem... but just as Jesus told us concerning ethic group rising against ethnic group in the last days... if I know they don't like me simply because my skin if different than their, then I'm going to grant them their wish and not associate with them.

This is what their racism demands and we should not be trying to insert ourselves someplace where we are not wanted.




Yeah, so I'm not for laying down to become a rug for others to walk in... if this is your problem then buzz off!




See now you are reading in to this things the father of lies is telling you. View attachment 42762

I never said I thought I was better than black people... I'm saying love does not force itself upon others... and since a growing number of black peoples despise white peoples... I'm going to help them out by steering clear of them.

I don't care if you have a problem with that or not. If you are white, it's just a matter of time before some radicalized black person attacks you in some way because they believe... that you believe you have white supremacy and you think you are superior to them

This is what they are being taught, just like in South Africa... which lead to races wars that the blacks won over there.




Your ignorance is flowing thru your keyboard...




If someone does not want the Lord... He'll eventually quit trying to fellowship with them and turns them over to a reprobate mind.

That's the premise I'm going with here as more and more black folks become radicalized and racist against white peoples... I'm going to depart from them as this is allowing them to have their free will.

I grew up playing sports and attending schools that has lots of minorities and we all got along back in the day just fine. I had no quarrels with them as I don't dislike anybody based on their skin color as some of the woke liberal baby killers here are claiming. (they be socialists ya know)

I'm simply noticing in the past couple decades how many on the left are talking and they are espousing racism against white peoples which I disagree with. Maybe some of the others here feel guilty for being white, I do not. I've never been racist towards any people of color and I'd appreciate it that they not be racist towards me because I'm white.

But since we are in the end times and the devil has created a firestorm of racism against white people... I'm not interested in participating in that as they demand that all white people bow down and feel guilty for being the color God made them as though God made some sort of mistake by making some people white.

It's ridiculous and I'm not going to partake in their political foolishness. View attachment 42763
So, if black folks don't want to be around white folks... I can help with that concerning myself View attachment 42764

I really strive to take people one person at the time without regard to what group he actually or apparently belongs to...

Even in groups with some very wrong [as I see wrong] essentials, such as the Pharisees when Jesus walked planet Earth, there are also often some, or even many, who are searching for a better Way.

When a person claims to be a follower of Jesus, I want to presume that he is sincere in his walk with the Master, until and if he shows that he is not. The only black people I have known closely have been good people, at least good as I am able to see them.

But... as Jesus indicated, Who is good but God? Who is it with a mote in his eye larger than any beam I find in my own eye?

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

The only black people I have known closely have been good people, at least good as I am able to see them.

I know of several like that and I have no problem visiting with them.

 

[BarneyFife]

I know of several like that and I have no problem visiting with them.

I've heard klansmen say that very thing.

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[St. SteVen]

I've heard klansmen say that very thing.

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African Americans say there is a difference between racism in the South and in the North.

In the South they aren't liked in general, but if they know you personally they are fine.
Up north they like them in general but not if they know you personally.

Which is worse?

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[St. SteVen]

Am I seeing this thread activity incorrectly?

Not sure.
I don't know what you are seeing.



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[Big Boy Johnson]

African Americans say there is a difference between racism in the South and in the North.

In the South they aren't liked in general, but if they know you personally they are fine.
Up north they like them in general but not if they know you personally.

Which is worse?

These are black Americans that are not from Africa... they were born and raised here, not there.
They have nothing to do with there.

A growing majority of these folks don't want to associate with white people... and that's their right, it's it's all good right?

But when white people who hears of all the racism blacks now have towards white people and doesn't want to be around these black racists... this is somehow a problem?

Yeah, it's a problem for white liberals who have white guilt and think all white people are required to bow down to blacks and if they don't they are "racist"

These white liberals (democrats) are the same ones supporting killing babies, sexual perversion, and indoctrinating children to be perverts... and now, they want to claim all white people are racists! What a crock!

This all part of the plan the marxists have to further divide the races, destroy the US, and make this nation into a one party communist state.... which must happen to the US will give up it's sovereignty once the anti-christ comes to power with the one world government.

 

[Brakelite]

I grew up in a country that is very integrated, and many mixed marriages between European and Maori have resulted in a unique culture. However, there are historical grievances over land and cultural issues that required healing. These issues are global. And yes, it was predominantly white Europeans who invaded entire continents for their own wealth and power. Forgiveness is one thing. But the scriptures require reparation. Quite frankly, the rape and pillage of entire nations, from Africa to South America, Australasia to the Far East, to enrich the “west” , has resulted in genocide and massive resentment and poverty. And many of those doing so used the Bible to justify their lust. The “blacks” were inferior and deserved to be slaves and ignorant according to many. How to heal such pain? How to resist the temptation to pour scorn and rebuke back upon those generational victims of genocide and theft of resources, land, and language? Did you know that stealing children from aboriginal communities in Australia was still taking place as recent as the 1970s? And this was perpetrated by the church in league with government to “civilise or Christianise” aborigines,and been going on for 200 years. This took place in Canada, the US, and even Ireland. It wasn’t so much a racist issue either, it was done in the name of God.
So let us not be concerned that African Americans want to meet together. I think you will find that white folk are welcome to join them in worship...at least I know that in SDA churches they are. There are Samoan, Philippino, a variety of African and Asian churches in Melbourne, and I and/or my family have visited with and had meals with many, and been most welcome. I don’t see any issue, as language and culture is fostered and restored in such environments.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

So let us not be concerned that African Americans want to meet together. I think you will find that white folk are welcome to join them in worship...at least I know that in SDA churches they are

Looks like the SDA has a long history of being racist against black people and it only stopped when the Justice Department threatened the SDA religion with legal action...

In the year 1890 the Seventh-day Adventist church voted a policy of racial segregation that lasted for the next 75 years. Robert M. Kilgore was the leader for the evangelistic work in the South, and the decision, which became known as the Kilgore policy, was made after a failed evangelistic campaign in Nashville, Tennessee, in 1889. Kilgore theorized that the low turnout by the white community was due to holding meetings with black people. He said that for the expediency of the gospel, black people should be segregated in the work from white people.

His colleague Charles Kinney, the first African American ordained minister, urged against this course of action. Kinney told Kilgore that black congregants would be insulted if they were not fully accepted with white congregants in fellowship.

Despite Kinney’s objection, Kilgore introduced this strategy to church leaders, and they adopted it. The result was that African Americans were not only segregated within the Adventist churches, but were also denied acceptance in its institutions and facilities.

Some historians refer to the Kilgore policy as “gospel expediency,” but by any name it was merely disguised white supremacy practiced under the banner of the gospel.

Full article can be read online at:
https://atoday.org/adventisms-white-supremacy-when-the-seventh-day-adventist-church-adopted-an-official-policy-of-racial-segregation

*NOTE - This is an pro SDA publication

 

[BarneyFife]

These are black Americans that are not from Africa... they were born and raised here, not there.
They have nothing to do with there.

A growing majority of these folks don't want to associate with white people... and that's their right, it's it's all good right?

But when white people who hears of all the racism blacks now have towards white people and doesn't want to be around these black racists... this is somehow a problem?

Yeah, it's a problem for white liberals who have white guilt and think all white people are required to bow down to blacks and if they don't they are "racist"

These white liberals (democrats) are the same ones supporting killing babies, sexual perversion, and indoctrinating children to be perverts... and now, they want to claim all white people are racists! What a crock! View attachment 42802

This all part of the plan the marxists have to further divide the races, destroy the US, and make this nation into a one party communist state.... which must happen to the US will give up it's sovereignty once the anti-christ comes to power with the one world government.

You're forgetting the moderates, BT.

You're forgetting that even common, ordinary polls show that 95% of people who call themselves "Christians" rarely read the Bible, pray, or exhibit any real confidence that God is in control of the affairs of men.

You're forgetting that God doesn't care what color your baseball hat is dyed—red or blue.

And you're forgetting that God and recording angels can see your duplicity from one thread to another.

"Christians shouldn't involve themselves in politics"—unless they should. And Christians should "abide in the New Covenant REST of Christ"—unless that means loving your enemies and recognizing neither Jew nor Greek, with all being one in Christ Jesus.

Critical theory being the genuine postmodern scourge that it is, thinly-veiled classical racism posing as passive-aggressive Anti-anti-racism is still every bit as much racism as miltant anti-racism.

My family originated in the hills of east Tennessee, so I know the us-and-them language fluently. And I saw the circular bonfires on the mountain as a kid.

One party Communist state - lol. What a crock. Ever hear of martial law, BT? The end is nearer than you think.

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[Big Boy Johnson]

It's always funny to see the Saturday peoples claim they rest and worship the Lord keeping it all holy unto the Lord on Saturdays.... then we see them on the board here... NOT keeping it holy like hypocrite who don't even practice what they preach

If you are going to play like you are Jews living under the old covenant... yer gonna have to do what they did on Saturday and quit being hypocrites!

This is one of the ways we know the SDA religion is a fraud!