Instead of men and women, it's men and men or women and women. Why is that sinful? I can understand murder, rape etc. being sinful because they involve hurting others. But how is homosexuality sinful when no one gets hurt?
Why is homosexuality a sin?
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But it is hurting people, even the people who practice it. It is totally unnatural and breaks down the moral and spritual fiber of family and society. It causes confusion to little ones and is a slap in the face of God. So yes, homosexuality does hurt because it unleashes God's judgements on the Earth.
I think when we try and break things down too much, we're bound to get confused. It's wrong because God says it is. That's it. He knows why, and if He is truly our God, whom we love and respect, we need to know He has our interests in heart, and that our lives will be infinitely better by following Him and trusting in Him.
To often today's Christianity thinks that God is noting more than a very powerful wizard. Highly powerful, but still subject to the moral standards that we ourselves are held to. This is not so. God is not human, He is the eternal, omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent God. He made everything, including us. The only insanity is the thought that we should have the right to make judgement calls on the rules He gives us, especially after He's told us He loves us.
To often today's Christianity thinks that God is noting more than a very powerful wizard. Highly powerful, but still subject to the moral standards that we ourselves are held to. This is not so. God is not human, He is the eternal, omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent God. He made everything, including us. The only insanity is the thought that we should have the right to make judgement calls on the rules He gives us, especially after He's told us He loves us.
How is it hurting ppl who practice it, and how is it unnatural? And 'how' to all other assertions you've made. My point is, in acts like murder and rape, it is rather clear-cut. There is an aggressor and a victim, but no such thing exists in homosexuality.
I think it's best for you to seek God about it in Romans 1...it can explain it better than I can...God bless you
No one could have said that better...thanks Rach
Doesn't life itself teach you that if you go the wrong way down a one-way street you'll get a ticket?
What's that got to do with the topic?
I am asking why it's wrong when it doesn't hurt people. Long time ago, racism was justified by using the Bible itself as an excuse. But as people matured, that attitude changed. Maybe, the same thing will happen with respect to homosexuality.
It is a sinful practice, and it does hurt people. It is a practice of leaving the natural use of the sexual function man and woman were designed with. It's why no offspring can be produced by the unnatural use of the sexual organs. And because offspring cannot be produced with it, to maintain the practice in society others must be led into it or be forced into it, which is... rape and does... hurt people.
Rom 1:26-27
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
(KJV)
Rom 1:26-27
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
(KJV)
Eli, you are either a liberal or a libertarian... but in the end that does not matter. The rule of law means very little to either of those catagories. To the liberal it is the "law of convenience" (I want it, I want it now, and I don't care how I get it) and to the libertarian it is the "end of my nose" rule (whatever happens past the end of my nose doesn't matter). Both parties chaffe under the perceived impingments to their "rights" and "freedoms" by the concept of a Rule of Law.
Not going anywhere with this post, just illustrating the difference between the two concepts (American Liberalism/Socialism vs. Libertarianism) over and against what the Bible and a Constitutional Republic teach.
Not going anywhere with this post, just illustrating the difference between the two concepts (American Liberalism/Socialism vs. Libertarianism) over and against what the Bible and a Constitutional Republic teach.
God created Adam and Eve in the beginning, to multiply and fill the earth. The bible says that the two became one flesh. [married]
Genesis 2:24
Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
Homosexuality, fornication, adultery and sexual immorality are sinful acts against our own bodies and are not sanctioned under God's original plan of marriage or the sanctity of the marriage bed. Hebrews 13:4
As believers, the bible says that Jesus has cleansed us from sin by his precious blood that was shed for us on the cross. This sacrifice was payment in full from having to pay the penalty ourselves, which is death. Since Jesus paid that penalty, we are no-longer our own. Our bodies belong to God and we cannot do what ever we desire with it...
1 Corinthians 6
[sup]13[/sup] Foods for the stomach and the stomach for foods, but God will destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. [sup]14[/sup] And God both raised up the Lord and will also raise us up by His power.
[sup]15[/sup] Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot? Certainly not! [sup]16[/sup] Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For “the two,” He says, “shall become one flesh.” [sup]17[/sup] But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.
[sup]18[/sup] Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.
The bible says that the Holy Spirit will come and dwell in those who confess that he is Lord and believe in him by faith. Romans 10:8, 9, 10, Acts 2:38, Ephesians 1:13.
[sup]19[/sup] Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? [sup]20[/sup] For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s.
Shalom!!!
Genesis 2:24
Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
Homosexuality, fornication, adultery and sexual immorality are sinful acts against our own bodies and are not sanctioned under God's original plan of marriage or the sanctity of the marriage bed. Hebrews 13:4
As believers, the bible says that Jesus has cleansed us from sin by his precious blood that was shed for us on the cross. This sacrifice was payment in full from having to pay the penalty ourselves, which is death. Since Jesus paid that penalty, we are no-longer our own. Our bodies belong to God and we cannot do what ever we desire with it...
1 Corinthians 6
[sup]13[/sup] Foods for the stomach and the stomach for foods, but God will destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. [sup]14[/sup] And God both raised up the Lord and will also raise us up by His power.
[sup]15[/sup] Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot? Certainly not! [sup]16[/sup] Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For “the two,” He says, “shall become one flesh.” [sup]17[/sup] But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.
[sup]18[/sup] Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.
The bible says that the Holy Spirit will come and dwell in those who confess that he is Lord and believe in him by faith. Romans 10:8, 9, 10, Acts 2:38, Ephesians 1:13.
[sup]19[/sup] Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? [sup]20[/sup] For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s.
Shalom!!!
Rom 3:25
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
(KJV)
Pop Christianity often strays away from Holy Writ and confuses just what sin is covered by Christ's Blood for those who first come to Christ Jesus and believe on Him.
It's for the remission of sins that are past, i.e., sin done from that point backwards, NOT sins that may be done yet future. We are expected to repent and ask Christ Jesus for forgiveness of sins we might commit afterwards, which is about staying in the Faith and in His Grace with walking by The Spirit and not by the flesh (1 John 1; Galatians 5).
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
(KJV)
Pop Christianity often strays away from Holy Writ and confuses just what sin is covered by Christ's Blood for those who first come to Christ Jesus and believe on Him.
It's for the remission of sins that are past, i.e., sin done from that point backwards, NOT sins that may be done yet future. We are expected to repent and ask Christ Jesus for forgiveness of sins we might commit afterwards, which is about staying in the Faith and in His Grace with walking by The Spirit and not by the flesh (1 John 1; Galatians 5).
Maybe your Bible ends at verse 25 but mine has a verse 26 also...
Seems that same propitiation is a continuous action, not a one time only event, that continues through to this very day.
However, this is not a debate on salvation but on the declared sinfulness of homosexuality.
Just Say NO to Thread Derailments.
Seems that same propitiation is a continuous action, not a one time only event, that continues through to this very day.
However, this is not a debate on salvation but on the declared sinfulness of homosexuality.
Just Say NO to Thread Derailments.
It has everything do with it. Homosexuality is an addiction. There's nothing good in any behaviour that is a compulsion.
I know many people who are hurtung because of the sin of homosexuality. Families are in pain and torn apart because of it. Anything that is a compulsion hurts a person in his mind, and sears his soul, not to mention keeps him spiritually separated from God.
Racism has always been wrong and the change that has come has nothing to do with maturity. Man is just as sinful as he ever was, and racism has never been completely stamped out. What changed it was the power of the good, and I don't doubt the power of prayer of God-fearing people availed much. The same thing can happen with homosexuality, although I highly disdain the underlying claim that being a homosexual is comparable to being a racial minority. It isn't in the least.
I am a conservative.
But I feel that homophobia is wrong. Besides, if God created us to multiply, why did he create homosexuals?
But I feel that homophobia is wrong. Besides, if God created us to multiply, why did he create homosexuals?
Since He treats homosexuality as a choice (warns us not to make it), your question is absurd on it's face since it flys in the face of scripture and science.
Because God said so. There are reasons like the earth's population would decrease to nothing, children that are born wouldn't have a mother and dad. But if these answers don't suit anyone, "because God said so."
Who are you going to believe, the Guy who made us all or the "scientists" with a political/social axe to grind?
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