Why its important to keep the Sabbath
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DJT_47
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So, do you really think numbers serve as justification? The MAJORITY is generally wrong on everything all the time. "Few there be that find it" ain't the majority.That's your answer?
List of churches and movements that Keep Sabbath
Sabbatarian Baptists
Sabbatarian Adventists[1]
Sabbatarian Pentecostalists
- Adventist Church of Promise
- Churches of God (Seventh-Day)
- Creation Seventh Day Adventist Church
- Sabbath Rest Advent Church
- Seventh-day Adventist Church
- Seventh Day Adventist Reform Movement
- Shepherd's Rod (Davidian Seventh-day Adventists)
- United Sabbath-Day Adventist Church
- United Seventh-Day Brethren
Sabbatarian British Israelites / (Armstrongism)
- Nazareth Baptist Church
- Sabbatarian Pentecostalists, Ukraine, Oneness denomination, formed in the 1920s–1930s in the Western Ukraine, Poland
- Soldiers of the Cross Church
- True Jesus Church
Judaizers
- Church of God Assembly (CGA)
- Church of God: A Worldwide Association (COGWA)
- Church of God International (United States)
- Church of the Great God
- Church of God Preparing for the Kingdom of God
- Global Church of God
- House of Yahweh
- Intercontinental Church of God
- Living Church of God
- Philadelphia Church of God
- Restored Church of God
- United Church of God
Others
- Assemblies of Yahweh
- Black Hebrew Israelites
- Hebrew Roots Movement
- Makuya
- Messianic Judaism, some Messianic Jews observe Shabbat on Saturdays[3]
- Sacred Name Movement
- Yahweh's Assembly in Yahshua
- Subbotniks, the majority belonged to Rabbinic and Karaite Judaism, the minority to Christianity[4]
- Yehowists, a Russian Spiritual Christian millenarian movement founded in the 1840s
- Church of Christ (Fettingite)
- For His Glory Church Ministries, Inc.
- TheMillennium
- The Christ's Assembly
- Church of Israel
- Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Strangite)
- House of Aaron
- Evangelical Association of the Israelite Mission of the New Universal Covenant (AEMINPU)
- Jemaat Allah Global Indonesia (JAGI), internationally known as Unitarian Christian Church of Indonesia (UCCI), headquartered in Semarang, Central Java, Indonesia[5]
- Remnant Fellowship, headquartered in Brentwood, Tennessee and founded in 1999 by Gwen Shamblin Lara[6]
- The Seventh-day Remnant Church[7]
- World Mission Society Church of God
- Free Presbyterian Church of Scotland
- Ancient Foundations Bible Fellowship, Port Macquarie
- Founded in Truth Fellowship
Matt 24 shows us Jesus expected His followers to be keeping the Sabbath up through the tribulation to His second coming through the grammar. Which you are choosing to ignore. And now in reference to Hebrews 4 you speak of grammar?
2 rest in Hebrews 4 not one. The rest which is the Gospel and the seventh day Sabbath rest. They are not the same.
How do we know?
The works for the Gospel rest were finished from the foundation of the world. For God had rested from all His works. Which include the rest which is the Gospel according to verse three's usage of the word although. It says that He spake in a certain place. The only time the Seventh day was spoken by God was on Mt Sinai in the giving of the Commandments.
Verse 5 says in this again. In this again what? In this again He speaks of the seventh day if they shall enter into His rest which is the Gospel.
How does He speak?
Verse 9 and 10 tell tells us. It says there remains therefore a Sabbath Keeping to the people of God. For He that has entered in His rest which is the Gospel also in addition to this rest Also ceases from his own work as God did from His.
As God did from His is a direct comparison. Did God enter into the rest of salvation in Christ? No!
Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Heb 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
Heb 4:5 And in this again, If they shall enter into my rest.
Heb 4:9 So there remains a Sabbath-keeping for the people of God. (Footnote: aThe Greek word is sabattismos, which means Sabbath-keeping.)
Heb 4:10 For the one, having entered into His rest, has himself also rested from his works, as God rested from His own.
First off Jesus said Let them without sin cast the first stone.
Second Christ is our high priest. All Judgement has in that respect been moved to His power since the Levitical priesthood has been nullified in the New Covenant.
BlessedPeace
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The grave error we often encounter in our communities is that which refers to the Mosaic Law.
Moses was merely the messenger. Yet, it is wrongly understood by some that Moses was the commander. He that ordained the Mitzvah.
In truth, God gave the commands. God.
So,when someone claims the moral commands of Moses no longer hold, that other thing they don't understand is, they're stating morality expires once you find Christ.
And then when someone points all this out,the fallback is,God's laws are written on our hearts. Not on stone tablets.
They don't comprehend that corrolary. The natural man has a heart of stone and cannot understand the things of God.
Once God finds them,the heart
receives the truth.The moral laws of God and the Gospel are inextricably bound.
Ronald Nolette
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That is incorrect.
Remember these words inspired by God:
Romans 4:15
Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
While every single acrt done outside of faith is a violation of the character of God, He does not hold one to account if no law was given.
Ronald Nolette
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8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
More than just keeping it holy according to God!
Ronald Nolette
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Still waiting. Bearing false witness is a grievous sin.
Matthew 18:16
But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
Bring forth your evidence and witnesses.
I have called you as one who bears false witness and I think that there are at least 2-3 here who would say amen.
BlessedPeace
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Ah,then Jesus sinned in the New Testament.
Which,to be concise in your perspective,must be conceded .
Big Boy Johnson
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Specifically... which part of Mathew 24 exactly?
No, He took away Saturday sabbath keeping under the New Covenant where sabbath became far more than just resting and worshiping on Saturday.
The religious nuts did not know Who Jesus was (they should have) so they thought He sinned by doing good works on the sabbath.
Exactly!
2 rest in Hebrews 4 not one. The rest which is the Gospel and the seventh day Sabbath rest. They are not the same.
How do we know?
The works for the Gospel rest were finished from the foundation of the world. For God had rested from all His works. Which include the rest which is the Gospel according to verse three's usage of the word although. It says that He spake in a certain place. The only time the Seventh day was spoken by God was on Mt Sinai in the giving of the Commandments.
Verse 5 says in this again. In this again what? In this again He speaks of the seventh day if they shall enter into His rest which is the Gospel.
How does He speak?
Verse 9 and 10 tell tells us. It says there remains therefore a Sabbath Keeping to the people of God. For He that has entered in His rest which is the Gospel also in addition to this rest Also ceases from his own work as God did from His.
As God did from His is a direct comparison. Did God enter into the rest of salvation in Christ? No!
Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Heb 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
Heb 4:5 And in this again, If they shall enter into my rest.
Heb 4:9 So there remains a Sabbath-keeping for the people of God. (Footnote: aThe Greek word is sabattismos, which means Sabbath-keeping.)
Heb 4:10 For the one, having entered into His rest, has himself also rested from his works, as God rested from His own.
Agreed
Many Christian denominations make a division in Matthew 24. There is no division in Jesus' answer to the three question in verse 3.
Verse 20's praying that our flight not be in the winter nor the Sabbath is connected to all of it my friends by the use of the conjunctive particles, for, and, for. wherefore, for, for and, and respectively. This means that Jesus expected His follows to be keeping the Sabbath until His return. And the adverb "then" in verse 24 shows us that what is about to be said relies on what was previously stated. Verse 26's use of the particle "wherefore" shows us that what is about to be said is connected to verse 24. The context also makes this apparent. Then with the continuous use of the particle "for" in verses 27 and 28 coupled with the particle "and" in verses 30 and 31 we are shown what is about to be said is directly connected to what was said the whole way back to verse 4 actually. So as was said Jesús expected and therefore expects His follows to be keeping the Sabbath up through the destruction of the Temple through the tribulation prior to and up to His Second coming and the gathering of the elect from the four winds, from one end of Heaven unto the other.
Matt 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Matt 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Matt 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Matt 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Matt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Matt 24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
Matt 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
Matt 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Matt 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Matt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Matt 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Matt 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Big Boy Johnson
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Quite the stretch there.... you forgot to mention the ones taking flight are
the ones that dwell in Judaea which is what is known today as the West Bank
He's not speaking to the entire Body of Christ as the entire Body is not fleeing to the mountains so here the Lord is speaking to cultural Jews who live in an area of the world that is literally shut down on Saturday so trying to flee in an area that has no businesses open or people out and about is going to be much harder to do.
Matthew 24:16-20
Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
The Law, His Word is in our hearts. That is the New Covenant. Deut 30:10-14 tell us what Law. Take a look. And while you are looking take note that the judgments are not mentioned and that Romans 10:6-8 is a quote from it.
No stretch the grammar is clear. There is no argument against it.
Verse 21 starts with the word "for". As you know this means that the reason for what is about to be said is about to be shared. Then in verse 22 the word "and" starts the sentence. This as you know means what is about to be said is a continuation of what was previously stated. From that point verse 23 begins with the word "then" and so forth to verse 31.
Here is the original post again, please take the time to read it again.
Many Christian denominations make a division in Matthew 24. There is no division in Jesus' answer to the three question in verse 3.
Verse 20's praying that our flight not be in the winter nor the Sabbath is connected to all of it my friends by the use of the conjunctive particles, for, and, for. wherefore, for, for and, and respectively. This means that Jesus expected His follows to be keeping the Sabbath until His return. And the adverb "then" in verse 24 shows us that what is about to be said relies on what was previously stated. Verse 26's use of the particle "wherefore" shows us that what is about to be said is connected to verse 24. The context also makes this apparent. Then with the continuous use of the particle "for" in verses 27 and 28 coupled with the particle "and" in verses 30 and 31 we are shown what is about to be said is directly connected to what was said the whole way back to verse 4 actually. So as was said Jesús expected and therefore expects His follows to be keeping the Sabbath up through the destruction of the Temple through the tribulation prior to and up to His Second coming and the gathering of the elect from the four winds, from one end of Heaven unto the other.
Matt 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Matt 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Matt 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Matt 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Matt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Matt 24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
Matt 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
Matt 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Matt 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Matt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Matt 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Matt 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
No one said that. We are saved by grace through faith. It is a Gift from God. For we are His workmanship created in Christ Jesus unto goood works that God ordained that we should walk in.
The Law, His Word is in our hearts. That is the New Covenant. Don't you know that? Are you denying it? See Heb 8:10; Rom 10:6-8
Deut 30:10-14 tell us what Law. Take a look. And while you are looking take note that the judgments are not mentioned and that Romans 10:6-8 is a quote from it.
Grailhunter
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Paul and Peter met with the Jewish Christians at the first Christian council in Jerusalem for the topic of Gentile Christians observing the Mosaic Law. The ruling was….
Acts 15 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.
For this reason you are not going to see Gentile-Christians worshiping in the Temple, being circumcised, and sacrificing animals. And you are not going see Paul telling Christians to observe the Sabbath or the Jewish dietary restrictions. What does Paul say about the Mosaic law…..But if the ministry of death, in letters engraved on stones, came with glory, so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was, how will the ministry of the Spirit fail to be even more with glory?..... And I testify again to every man who receives circumcision, that he is under obligation to keep the whole Law. You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
So not only are Christians not under the Law, they can get themselves in trouble by attempting to observe it.
Colossians 2:16–17 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.
Then why are you preaching a phony law? You're picking and choosing the parts you like.
Galatians 3:10
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them."
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