Will the Jews build a Third Temple?

[Davy]

Your opinion, that denies Bible truths.
It is clearly stated in 2 Thess 2:4 that the Temple which the man of sin, [the Anti-Christ 'beast'] desecrates, is a physical Temple, in Jerusalem and dedicated to God.
This new Temple has to be built before Jesus Returns; all as described in Ezekiel 40 to 46.

The Zechariah 6:12-15 Scripture is not about that above 3rd temple. The 3rd temple which orthodox Jews in today's Jerusalem will build to fulfill 2 Thess.2:4 is about this 'present' world time, not the Millennial temple of Ezekiel 40-47 which Jesus Christ will build when He returns.

In John 14, Jesus told His disciples that He goes to prepare them a place involving The Father's house, which has many mansions (abodes, chambers of the priests in Ezekiel). That... is the future temple Jesus builds AFTER His return.

The 3rd temple today's Jews will build, which the "man of sin" will come to sit in, will be destroyed... on the day of Jesus' return. DO YOU HEAR ME???

 

[MatthewG]

To me it would not matter if they did or did not. Jesus promised to come back to a generation which would witness everything that happen then in that day, and the temple would be destroyed as well in a one time event. And just cause a new temple is built, doesn't mean that even Jesus spoke about is going to happen again, because there was only one time for it to happen. I believe it happened in 70AD, when the siege of Jerusalem as promised by Jesus came about.

 

[Davy]

It's your opinion that is wrong. The temple of 2nd Tess 2:4 is spiritually represents the New Testament Congregation where Satan is revealed through men. When Satan loosens from the bottomless pit being revealed through the false prophets and christs (signifies locusts with the spirit of the antichrist (not one man) with lying signs and wonders that deceive men without the seal of God, Revelation 9. Not about some physical temple with your fantasy one man.


Ezekiel 40-46 is a millennial kingdom with temple that is symbolic the New Testament congregation since the Cross. Not some physical temple in the future that you believe.

No, the "temple of God" Paul mentions in 2 Thess.2:4 is about a physical stone temple built for the end of this world, in Jerusalem. Today's orthodox Jews in Jerusalem already have the materials ready to build it, even cut the cornerstone and made temple artifacts for temple worship.

The main reason that 2 Thess.2:4 "temple of God" will be a real physical temple, is because the Daniel prophecy about the "abomination of desolation" which Jesus quoted requires it. The Jews will build their 3rd temple in prep for that Daniel 11 event, with the "man of sin" coming to play God with literally sitting in it, and placing the "image of the beast" in it for false worship during the "great tribulation".

What many of my Christian brethren don't appear to understand, is that today's orthodox unbelieving Jews, and I mean devout religious orthodox Jews of the religion of Judaism, they still... think they are under the 'old covenant'. They do not accept Jesus of Nazareth as The Christ-Messiah.

They are still waiting for Messiah to come. And because the 'old covenant' worship involved a stone temple in Jerusalem, and animal sacrifices, they believe they are indebted to return to that as true worship of God, in their eyes. It's not about what we in Christ Jesus know, that Jesus became the Perfect Sacrifice for sin, for one and all time; it is about what those orthodox unbelieving Jews still believe today. This is why among those Jews in today's state of Israel there's an orthodox group prepared to build their 3rd temple and start up the old covenant sacrifices, etc.

Prophetic indicators in both Old and New Testaments suggest those orthodox Jews will not be allowed to build their 3rd temple until that "man of sin" (pseudo-Christ) arrives on the scene in Jerusalem.

 

[Keraz]

The 3rd temple today's Jews will build, which the "man of sin" will come to sit in, will be destroyed... on the day of Jesus' return. DO YOU HEAR ME???

What I hear; see, is a bunch of biased opinion and unbiblical guesswork.
In no way will the Jews build a new Temple. Thay have had 70 + years to do that and the fact is; they don't want a Temple.
The new Temple that the man of sin will desecrate, is stated to be Gods Temple. It will be built by men who come from far away... Zechariah 6:15
By the Christian peoples, who will re-populate the holy Land after that entire area is cleared and cleansed. Deuteronomy 32:34-43, Zephaniah 1:14-18, 2 Peter 3:7

When Jesus Returns, He will destroy the attacking armies at Armageddon. Any other destruction is just a figment of your overheated imagination.

 

[quietthinker]

Will the Jews build a Third Temple?​

Only if they like the taste of atomic fission and it's afterglow

 

[quietthinker]

No, the "temple of God" Paul mentions in 2 Thess.2:4 is about a physical stone temple built for the end of this world, in Jerusalem. Today's orthodox Jews in Jerusalem already have the materials ready to build it, even cut the cornerstone and made temple artifacts for temple worship.

The main reason that 2 Thess.2:4 "temple of God" will be a real physical temple, is because the Daniel prophecy about the "abomination of desolation" which Jesus quoted requires it. The Jews will build their 3rd temple in prep for that Daniel 11 event, with the "man of sin" coming to play God with literally sitting in it, and placing the "image of the beast" in it for false worship during the "great tribulation".

What many of my Christian brethren don't appear to understand, is that today's orthodox unbelieving Jews, and I mean devout religious orthodox Jews of the religion of Judaism, they still... think they are under the 'old covenant'. They do not accept Jesus of Nazareth as The Christ-Messiah.

They are still waiting for Messiah to come. And because the 'old covenant' worship involved a stone temple in Jerusalem, and animal sacrifices, they believe they are indebted to return to that as true worship of God, in their eyes. It's not about what we in Christ Jesus know, that Jesus became the Perfect Sacrifice for sin, for one and all time; it is about what those orthodox unbelieving Jews still believe today. This is why among those Jews in today's state of Israel there's an orthodox group prepared to build their 3rd temple and start up the old covenant sacrifices, etc.

Prophetic indicators in both Old and New Testaments suggest those orthodox Jews will not be allowed to build their 3rd temple until that "man of sin" (pseudo-Christ) arrives on the scene in Jerusalem.

Who is it supposed to have torn the heavy veil entrance to the Most Holy Place from top to bottom when Jesus died....and why was it torn?

 

[Jay Ross]

When Jesus Returns, He will destroy the attacking armies at Armageddon. Any other destruction is just a figment of your overheated imagination.

Do you mind tell the members and readers when you believe that the Armageddon judgement will take place.

Pretty please!

 

[Keraz]

Do you mind tell the members and readers when you believe that the Armageddon judgement will take place.

Pretty please!

When Jesus Returns.
As described in Revelation 16:16-18, Revelation 19:11-21, Zechariah 14:3-4 & 12-15

 

[Davy]

What I hear; see, is a bunch of biased opinion and unbiblical guesswork.

Not guesswork at all, but Scripture.

When Jesus said in His Olivet discourse (Matthew 24), not one stone standing atop another regarding the buildings on the Temple Mount, He was not just pointing to the Romans destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in 70 A.D. He was pointing mainly about the 'day' of His future coming on the "day of the Lord". This is why... His Apostles then asked Him what would be the SIGN of His coming and the end of this world.

Men's false seminary doctrines of Preterism likes to try and push that 'not one stone atop another' into past history, instead of properly understanding that Scripture where Jesus was giving us the main SIGNS of the very end of this world.

 

[Jay Ross]

When Jesus Returns.
As described in Revelation 16:16-18, Revelation 19:11-21, Zechariah 14:3-4 & 12-15

Really, When do you believe your referenced scriptures will take place?

Which are a near future event and which are a distant future event? Do you know the difference?

 

[Keraz]

Really, When do you believe your referenced scriptures will take place?

Which are a near future event and which are a distant future event? Do you know the difference?

I said: When Jesus Returns.
To happen after all the Prophesied things from Rev 7 to Rev 19:10, have taken place.

 

[Jay Ross]

I said: When Jesus Returns.
To happen after all the Prophesied things from Rev 7 to Rev 19:10, have taken place.

In other words, you have no idea. Rev 19 spans over 1,000 plus years. The Revelation Rev 16 Bowl judgements can be observed with the Seventh Bowl Judgement having been completed from my observation, and with the Sixth Bowl judgement presently being played out at this moment ending with the Judgement of the Kings of the earth at Armageddon for the part they played in trampling God's sanctuary and His Earthly Hosts as well as the judgement of the five beasts in Daniel 7:1-12 occurring at the same time with the Kings of the Earth and the Judged wicked fallen rebelling Heavenly Hosts being imprisoned in a cistern, i.e., the Bottomless Pit, for 1,000 years, in fulfilment of God's promise in Ezekiel of removing the beasts of the fields for a period of time, namely 1,000 years. After the 1,000 years of the Judged Kings of the Earth and the judged heavenly hosts will be released for a little while, which is around 20-30 years in duration, when we will see the rest of the Bowl judgements in reverse order such that they will be observable in this order: - The 5the followed by the 4th, 3rd, 2nd and the 1st bowl Judgements. The after we see the Beast and the False Prophet captured and dispatched into the Lake of Fire towards the end of the Little While period, Satan also will be captured and dispatched into the Lake of Fire.

It is not until Satan has been Dispatched into the Lake of fire that Jesus will be seen coming on the Clouds of Heaven with all of the heavenly Hosts to Judge all of the people of the earth from the first to the last, in the Great White Throne Room Judgement.

It is my view that the Bowl Judgements are the easiest to place into a semblance of order in which they will unfold and within this framework we can place the Seal and Trumpet Judgements with some degree of confidence.

What also happens after the Armageddon Judgement? All of Israel will be saved. In the Minas Parable, Israel will declare that they no longer want Satan to be their master when He goes away into the Bottomless pit. (Luke 19:14)

The trigger for the Kings of the earth gathering at Armageddon to be judged can be found in Luke 14:28-30.

The trigger for Israel turning to God to seek His terms of peace is found next in Luke 14:31-32 but a warning follows this parable that if they have lost their saltiness, then they will be thrown out onto the Dung Heap because they will not be able to complete their final purpose.

In Ezekiel 34, God tells us that He will place a different shepherd over Israel when Je gathers Israel to Himself and plant them in a fertile field and will teach them about the Christ centred religion that He, Christ, is the Son of God who came to redeem all of mankind, where they are living still scattered throughout the whole earth after the completion of the third and the fourth age of the visitation of the iniquities of the fathers of Israel upon the their children and the children's children.

If you were a God called teacher, then you would know all of the above short summary and would be calling all of the peoples of the earth to repentance.

Your response above as to when Jesus will return, show us all that you have no real confidence in your understanding as to what is happening now or will happen in the future.

Shalom

PS: A small titbit for you to savour: - Rev 19:1-10 happens at the same time as the Armageddon Judgement of the Kings of the earth on the earth and the heavenly hosts in heaven. Over 1,000 years later, Rev 19:17-21 happens towards the very end of the Little While period at the end of the Seventh Age followed immediately with Rev 20:10. After this we will see Christ returning on the Clouds.

 

[Davy]

Who is it supposed to have torn the heavy veil entrance to the Most Holy Place from top to bottom when Jesus died....and why was it torn?

Are you serious? Why are you trying to link the future destruction Jesus was pointing to on the temple mount on the day of His future 2nd coming with the veil of the 2nd temple being torn in two at His death on the cross? (Matthew 24:1-3)

Can you not keep the two events separate in your mind, since the veil torn happened around 29 A.D. at His crucifixion, and the future destruction at His future return hasn't even happened yet? Let's see, that's already a difference of 2023 minus 29 (A.D.) = 1, 994 years, and Jesus' 2nd coming has still not happened yet!

 

[Davy]

I said: When Jesus Returns.
To happen after all the Prophesied things from Rev 7 to Rev 19:10, have taken place.

Anyone who simply reads... Christ's Book of Revelation ought to realize right off the bat that the Rev.11:14-18 events on the 7th Trumpet happen on the day of Christ's future coming, which will be the LAST DAY of this present world.

So what Keraz says above is yet another statement of his that is not Biblically accurate. Those who think the events of the end are given in a pure chronological order like how they are written down is what causes bad interpretation like Keraz did.

6th Seal - Rev.6:14-17 events happen which directly parallel...
7th Vial - Rev.16:17-21 events, which also parallel...
7th Trumpet - Rev.11:14-19 events.

So anyone thinking those Revelation chapters describing those Seals, Trumpets, and Vials, happen strictly in chronological order needs a lot of help with reading comprehension.

 

[quietthinker]

Are you serious? Why are you trying to link the future destruction Jesus was pointing to on the temple mount on the day of His future 2nd coming with the veil of the 2nd temple being torn in two at His death on the cross? (Matthew 24:1-3)

Can you not keep the two events separate in your mind, since the veil torn happened around 29 A.D. at His crucifixion, and the future destruction at His future return hasn't even happened yet? Let's see, that's already a difference of 2023 minus 29 (A.D.) = 1, 994 years, and Jesus' 2nd coming has still not happened yet!

Probably less confusing to just answer the question Davy

 

[Keraz]

So anyone thinking those Revelation chapters describing those Seals, Trumpets, and Vials, happen strictly in chronological order needs a lot of help with reading comprehension.

But those who shuffle them to suit their wrong interpretations, are invoking the curse of Revelation 22:18-19
Revelation 16:16-18, the Seventh Bowl, is what will happen when Jesus Returns. The earthquake Prophesied is the same one in Revelation 11:13

Your response above as to when Jesus will return, show us all that you have no real confidence in your understanding as to what is happening now or will happen in the future.

That you are wrong in saying Jesus Returns after the thousand years is over, is easy for all to see. Prophesies like Isaiah 2:1-4, Zechariah 14:16-21, show how the Lord will be on earth during the thousand years.
When the thousand years is over, then Satan will be released for a short time and he will attack Jesus in Jerusalem. God will incinerate him and his army.

 

[Jay Ross]

That you are wrong in saying Jesus Returns after the thousand years is over, is easy for all to see. Prophesies like Isaiah 2:1-4, Zechariah 14:16-21, show how the Lord will be on earth during the thousand years.
When the thousand years is over, then Satan will be released for a short time and he will attack Jesus in Jerusalem. God will incinerate him and his army.

Where in the two passages that you have mentioned does it indicate that the Lord will be on the earth during the 1,000 years that Satan is imprisoned in the Bottomless pit.

Isaiah 2: 1-4: - 2:1 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem.
2 Now it shall come to pass in the latter days
That the mountain of the Lord's house
Shall be established as the tallest of the mountains,
And shall be exalted above the hills;
And all nations shall flow to it.
3 Many people shall come and say,
"Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord,
To the house of the God of Jacob;
He will teach us His ways,
And we shall walk in His paths."
For out of Zion shall go forth the law,
And the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
4 He shall judge between the nations,
And rebuke many people;
They shall beat their swords into ploughshares,
And their spears into pruning hooks;
Nation shall not lift up sword against nation,
Neither shall they learn war anymore.

Zechariah 14:16-21: - 16 And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 17 And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, on them there will be no rain. 18 If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the process with which the Lord strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.

20 In that day "HOLINESS TO THE LORD" shall be engraved on the bells of the horses. The pots in the Lord's house shall be like the bowls before the altar. 21 Yes, every pot in Jerusalem and Judah shall be holiness to the Lord of hosts. Everyone who sacrifices shall come and take them and cook in them. In that day there shall no longer be a Canaanite in the house of the Lord of hosts.

Now where in the above quoted passages does it specifically tell us that the Lord will reside on the face of the earth?

 

[Keraz]

Now where in the above quoted passages does it specifically tell us that the Lord will reside on the face of the earth?

So; Will the nations just go up to worship an empty Temple?
Psalms 9:11 Sing to the Lord, enthroned in Zion.... is one of many scriptures proving that King Jesus will be visibly present on earth during the Millennium.

 

[Jay Ross]

So; Will the nations just go up to worship an empty Temple?
Psalms 9:11 Sing to the Lord, enthroned in Zion.... is one of many scriptures proving that King Jesus will be visibly present on earth during the Millennium.

That sadly is your opinion based on what you believe will happen. Even in Ps 9:11 it does not explicitly tell us that God is dwelling on the earth during the Millenium. It does tell us though that He is dwelling in Zion which is in heaven.

Psalm 9:7-20: -

7 But the LORD abides forever;
He has established His throne for judgment.
8 He judges the world with justice;
He governs the people with equity.
9 The LORD is a refuge for the oppressed,
a stronghold in times of trouble.
10Those who know Your name trust in You,
for You, O LORD, have not forsaken those who seek You.

11Sing praises to the LORD, who dwells in Zion;
proclaim His deeds among the nations.
12 For the Avenger of bloodshed remembers;
He does not ignore the cry of the afflicted.

13 Be merciful to me, O LORD;
see how my enemies afflict me!
Lift me up from the gates of death,
14 that I may declare all Your praises—
that within the gates of Daughter Zion
I may rejoice in Your salvation.

15 The nations have fallen into a pit of their making;
their feet are caught in the net they have hidden.
16 The LORD is known by the justice He brings;
the wicked are ensnared by the work of their hands.

17 The wicked will return to Sheol—
all the nations who forget God.
18 For the needy will not always be forgotten;
nor the hope of the oppressed forever dashed.

19 Rise up, O LORD, do not let man prevail;
let the nations be judged in Your presence.
20 Lay terror upon them, O LORD;
let the nations know they are but men.

 

[Davy]

But those who shuffle them to suit their wrong interpretations, are invoking the curse of Revelation 22:18-19
Revelation 16:16-18, the Seventh Bowl, is what will happen when Jesus Returns. The earthquake Prophesied is the same one in Revelation 11:13

That you are wrong in saying Jesus Returns after the thousand years is over, is easy for all to see. Prophesies like Isaiah 2:1-4, Zechariah 14:16-21, show how the Lord will be on earth during the thousand years.
When the thousand years is over, then Satan will be released for a short time and he will attack Jesus in Jerusalem. God will incinerate him and his army.

I DO NOT BELIEVE JUST ANYTHING YOU SAY OR CLAIM.

WELCOME TO MY IGNORE LIST.