Were they licensed?The Acts church was a denomination. They were distinct from other brands of worship. They even had a label: "Christian"
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Were they licensed?The Acts church was a denomination. They were distinct from other brands of worship. They even had a label: "Christian"
still kinda funny/true thoSeems a little over-the-top to me.
pretty much what i do too yehTy!
That's my end of season winter fur. I hack it all off in April and start regrowing in Sept.
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Never said that, only JEsus does, does that upset you, why so angry.In other words only mjrhealth has the truth. What utter nonsense.
I'm serious in my question... What do you mean by "righteous" in context to your question, are only the righteous persecuted? When considering the malevolence of Satan toward the church in the final days, and the war against the "remnant", what is it about that remnant that makes him hate them so much?You're really not actually addressing my point.
Moses wasn't a leader in the New Testament Church.I'm not certain that having a plurality of elders is the only biblical model for leadership.
There is the Moses model...
Except not only the righteous are persecuted. That's just a statement of fact.I'm serious in my question... What do you mean by "righteous" in context to your question, are only the righteous persecuted? When considering the malevolence of Satan toward the church in the final days, and the war against the "remnant", what is it about that remnant that makes him hate them so much?
Okay fair enough. Excuse suggests a lessening of culpability, and that wasn't my intent. I guess a better word would be explanation. They were deceived. The "traffic" and"merchandise" spoken of by Isaiah that was Lucifers modus operandi could be likened to politicking and/or slander. The lies of Lucifer must have touched on areas never before considered regarding God's character and His ability to rule in righteousness and justice. Lucifer managed to convince a large portion of the population that God wasn't fit to rule, thus sparkinga revolution and an attempt at change of government. So, while not excusable, I think explainable. But Lucifer himself, he has no excuse certainly, but neither is there any explanation for his rebellion. Thus why it's called the 'mystery of iniquity' I suppose.The fallen angels had no excuse. They Gazed upon the glory of God unfiltered. If they had an excuse, why were they cast out of Heaven with Lucifer? If they had an excuse, do they still have one now? Why was there a lake of fire prepared for the devil and his angels?
I cannot answer that because you still haven't explained to me what you mean by the word "righteous". Until I know what you mean by that term I can't link it to any group of people therefore cannot answer your question as to who is being persecuted or not.Except not only the righteous are persecuted. That's just a statement of fact.
You’re being purposely dense.I cannot answer that because you still haven't explained to me what you mean by the word "righteous". Until I know what you mean by that term I can't link it to any group of people therefore cannot answer your question as to who is being persecuted or not.
Perhaps from their perspective.You’re being purposely dense.
Example: Jews, who deny Christ as the Savior, have been systematically persecuted by people claiming Christ for centuries.
Does that make Jewish denial of Christ right?
Hi, Jane. I heavily agree with you.I do heavily believe that:
1) A person should seek answers for themselves through the guidance of the Holy Ghost.
2) Remember what the core of being a Christian is: faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. That's the most important thing. All other things are of lesser importance, and some things have zero practical importance.
3) Regardless of different denominations or views, we should all treat each other with respect and support one another on their walk with Christ.
So you are saying, according to your definition of righteous, that Jews aren't righteous? Prior to the Vietnam war, Buddhists were persecuted by the government in South Vietnam, then Catholics were persecuted by communists after the war. Hutu and Tutsi persecuted one another for years before the uprising in Rwanda, there are religious and cultural conflicts all over the world that could be designated in a sense as persecution, but JD, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a final all out no holds barred no rules open war being declared in the final remnant church before Christ comes. Yes, it has everything to do with being righteous, but likely not in the sense you are thinking. And the future event or situation I'm referring to is nothing like the persecutions of previous times, not even of the Jews.You’re being purposely dense.
Example: Jews, who deny Christ as the Savior, have been systematically persecuted by people claiming Christ for centuries.
Does that make Jewish denial of Christ right?
@BarnyFifeUpdate: I'm afraid I haven't made myself very clear. My intentions were to provoke critical/analytical thought harnessed by Scripture--not to solicit personal suggestions per se (not that I couldn't use some, of course). With all of the bright hearts and minds I've encountered so far, in the end we all go away with some useful knowledge.
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With all the many Christian denominations and sects out there, how can one know which one is closest to teaching the truth about Jesus and the Gospel, especially if they all claim to be arriving at truth through basically the same method?
And to those who would answer that it doesn't matter because we must arrive at the truth on our own:
a) Who, honestly, actually does that? We're all influenced by teachers to some degree, and we're affected by our environment, experiences, upbringing and, most hopefully, the Holy Spirit, Himself. And doesn't the Bible Itself even suggest that at least some or most of us have to be taught?; and
b) If we're cautioned not to forsake the assembling of ourselves together, especially near the end of time (and if we aren't close now I don't even want to imagine what "close" looks like), is it really God's will that we should have no place to go on a regular basis to meet and worship with others who believe as we do?
I've noticed that when people fiercely protect a doctrine, it's usually one that seems to have (seemingly) conflicting evidence even from the Bible alone.
If it seems like I'm encouraging skepticism, nothing could be further from the truth.
I'm looking for practical, critically-reasoned, non-canned answers to real problems (real, at least, as I see it).
I woke up one day when I was 23 years old and realized that I just believed what my family believed about God. A, B, C, 1, 2, 3--right down the line.
I believe Christians ought to believe the same thing about how Jesus saves us and what, if anything, we owe Him. I believe the Bible predicts it. But I don't believe we should treat each other unkindly while working toward the unity of the faith.
The Information age has produced a multi-generational group of ultra-sensitive (non)communicators.
I'm hoping this community proves to be the exception to the rule. I'm confident that by God's grace it will.
Know what they preach. Is it the gospel that the apostles preached or is a different gospel? Know as well of their preaching of Jesus, if they preaches another Jesus whom the apostles had not preached. And to do that, you have to search the Scriptures to find that out.With all the many Christian denominations and sects out there, how can one know which one is closest to teaching the truth about Jesus and the Gospel, especially if they all claim to be arriving at truth through basically the same method?
That's right, we do have a lot of things that influence and affects us. But the Christian, more than the non Christian, have experience and relationship with God. Most of all, he have faith, the faith of Jesus Christ. And he may be taught by other Christians, pastors perhaps, but his true teacher is really the Holy Spirit.a) Who, honestly, actually does that? We're all influenced by teachers to some degree, and we're affected by our environment, experiences, upbringing and, most hopefully, the Holy Spirit, Himself. And doesn't the Bible Itself even suggest that at least some or most of us have to be taught?; and
It's for our good for sure, that we have fellowship.b) If we're cautioned not to forsake the assembling of ourselves together, especially near the end of time (and if we aren't close now I don't even want to imagine what "close" looks like), is it really God's will that we should have no place to go on a regular basis to meet and worship with others who believe as we do?
Agree.I believe Christians ought to believe the same thing about how Jesus saves us and what, if anything, we owe Him. I believe the Bible predicts it. But I don't believe we should treat each other unkindly while working toward the unity of the faith.
I can't agree since I think Revelation predicts seven types of churches. I expect errors to exist. We may be carried off by pride if we read the New Testament and think Jews were incredibly stupid while we are so much more superior. If God struck them with blindness, why wouldn't He also strike Christians with various types of blindness? Look around: See the confusion, surely it is so.I believe Christians ought to believe the same thing about how Jesus saves us and what, if anything, we owe Him. I believe the Bible predicts it. But I don't believe we should treat each other unkindly while working toward the unity of the faith.