Alright....this has all gone on long enough.
Firstly, I want to say that the over-generalisations by some in this thread are appalling. Since some women are overbearing, bossy, manipulative shrews, it must follow that all women do that to their husbands; that all husbands are boot licking cowards, nodding to get peace in a marriage? Shame on you. It's as ridiculous as saying that some men are abusers and rapist, so all men must be. Equally fallacious.
Discussing such an important topic in these terms of broad sweeping conclusions is doing more harm than good.
The real fact is this: people are sinners. Some women sin in this manner, just as some men do...they fight against the roles that have been given them by God, and it leads to broken lives....sin always does, no matter the form.
But for some of you to think that you have the right to come onto a public forum and verbally abuse women in such absolute terms, when you know only a fraction of the women in the world, is beyond prideful and arrogant. You wonder why some of the women here have rose in outcry? It's because you are pretending to know the state of their hearts and marriage...something that only God can know.
It is true that feminism has done much harm in the Church, but just as feminism stole in to try and mend the unbiblical abuse and dominance of men and ended up as an unbiblical bid for leadership and headship within the Church, so I see the danger here in the words and attitudes of some, to spin it back to where it was in the beginning, in an attempt to 'deal with feminism'. The attitude seems to be that if women "don't find their places in submission", then they are sinful and bring an end to marriage and happiness. This is just as unbiblical as feminism, and it is an attitude that will NEVER conqueror feminism. The only thing that will defeat it, is for men to follow the example of Christ. You don't seem to understand that Christian women long for men like that. We want men like that to stand as the head of our homes and hearts. We long for it like we long to see Jesus.
What your broad generalizations have done is to show the fact that in spite of your words, some of you don't actually understand the role God has called you to. Your words are not the ones of someone who would 'lay their lives down' for her, and to lovingly lead her to an understanding and acceptance of her role and how she is cherished in that role. As the 'head'....that is your responsibility! And yet this whole thread is a testament to the fact that you feel WE should be doing it! It's almost like your crying out for us to let you step up. It's ridiculous, as most of the Christian women I know, DON'T WANT TO BE HEAD. Man, you couldn't pay me to do that job, and nothing makes me feel safer and more loved in my own role, than knowing my husband is in his role, loving and leading.
And so, since nothing but ongoing war has come from this thread, it will now be locked. I do hope that some here who have accused each other so violently will take a step back, pray intensely about their heart and their intentions...because true change starts with confessing and growing into the true head.
I also feel I should mention to any thinking of just starting a new thread to keep this argument going....that any time such threads begin to again verbally abuse one another, it will be locked immediately....this is not the sort of behaviour that should be seen on a forum professing Christ as Saviour.
