Would you surrender your own beliefs in the cause of doctrinal unity?

[shepherdsword]

You may be able to find major denominational agreement, but not with every denomination.
And on an individual basis there is broad disagreement on most of the essentials you listed.

Check out the statistics of John MacArthur's denomination.

"Christians don't know what they believe." - until they are brainwashed

Why bang the same old drum; the sound of others being wrong and I have the right path. Whether that is true or not is beside the point.....the point being, this approach does nothing to qualify what is true, to validate your view or to bring glory to God. And your reply does not bang your drum...

www.christianityboard.com

If they do not agree on the core essentials then they are not simply a "denomination" they are a cult.

I see once again you evade my questions. Which of those core essentials listed would you sacrifice for unity?

 

[St. SteVen]

I see once again you evade my questions. Which of those core essentials listed would you sacrifice for unity?

Again, I don't claim that there can EVER be unity in doctrine. That's your claim.

 

[St. SteVen]

If they do not agree on the core essentials then they are not simply a "denomination" they are a cult.

Here are the results from John MacArthur's denomination. Cult?

"Christians don't know what they believe." - until they are brainwashed

Why bang the same old drum; the sound of others being wrong and I have the right path. Whether that is true or not is beside the point.....the point being, this approach does nothing to qualify what is true, to validate your view or to bring glory to God. And your reply does not bang your drum...

www.christianityboard.com

65% of Evangelicals agreed that everyone is born innocent.
55% agreed that the Bible is not literally true.
56% agreed that God accepts worship from all religions.
43% agreed that Jesus was a good teacher, but not God.

"Evangelicals have absolutely no idea what they believe." - John MacArthur
Really? It seems as if the survey results TOLD you EXACTLY what they believe.

 

[St. SteVen]

If they do not agree on the core essentials then they are not simply a "denomination" they are a cult.

Do you think a denomination has the right to DICTATE what we believe?

 

[shepherdsword]

Do you think a denomination has the right to DICTATE what we believe?

I think the bible does

 

[shepherdsword]

Here are the results from John MacArthur's denomination. Cult?

"Christians don't know what they believe." - until they are brainwashed

Why bang the same old drum; the sound of others being wrong and I have the right path. Whether that is true or not is beside the point.....the point being, this approach does nothing to qualify what is true, to validate your view or to bring glory to God. And your reply does not bang your drum...

www.christianityboard.com

65% of Evangelicals agreed that everyone is born innocent.
55% agreed that the Bible is not literally true.
56% agreed that God accepts worship from all religions.
43% agreed that Jesus was a good teacher, but not God.

"Evangelicals have absolutely no idea what they believe." - John MacArthur
Really? It seems as if the survey results TOLD you EXACTLY what they believe.

Stop it with the strawman. The issue is what is MacArthur's statement of faith presents...not the ignorant masses

 

[St. SteVen]

I think the bible does

Once again, no consensus on what it means.

 

[St. SteVen]

Stop it with the strawman. The issue is what is MacArthur's statement of faith presents...not the ignorant masses

The ignorant masses?
Where is the unity in that? - LOL

Unity can only come when we accept each other for who we are.

 

[shepherdsword]

Again, I don't claim that there can EVER be unity in doctrine. That's your claim.

Hey, you're the one that asked the question "

Would you surrender your own beliefs in the cause of doctrinal unity?​

I simply asked which ones you would sacrifice. Why is that so hard for you to answer?

 

[shepherdsword]

The ignorant masses?
Where is the unity in that? - LOL

Unity can only come when we accept each other for who we are.

"Unity can only come when we accept each other for who we are." Where is that ever taught? This is what the bible says:

Am 3:3
Can two walk together, except they be agreed?

 

[St. SteVen]

Hey, you're the one that asked the question "

Would you surrender your own beliefs in the cause of doctrinal unity?​

I simply asked which ones you would sacrifice. Why is that so hard for you to answer?

I wouldn't sacrifice any.

Do you believe that...

"Christians don't know what they believe." - until they are brainwashed​

 

[St. SteVen]

"Unity can only come when we accept each other for who we are." Where is that ever taught? This is what the bible says:

Am 3:3
Can two walk together, except they be agreed?

That scripture is used by cults to defend their tribalism.
Which cult do you belong to?

 

[shepherdsword]

That scripture is used by cults to defend their tribalism.
Which cult do you belong to?

Actually it is used by God to encourage Israel to coming into agreement with him. Is that something your cult uses for another purpose?

 

[St. SteVen]

Would you surrender your own beliefs in the cause of doctrinal unity?​

This is a follow-up to the previous topic: Unity of the faith - at what cost? Link below.

Probably the biggest roadblock to Christian doctrinal unity is holding on to the freedom we have to determine our own beliefs.
Would you surrender your own beliefs in the cause of Christian doctrinal unity?

Unity of the faith - at what cost?

Just to be clear, I do not seek Christian doctrinal unity. Defined as EVERYONE surrendering to a predetermined set of beliefs.
I believe that unity comes when we accept each other no matter our differences.
That we seek to understand each other instead of rejecting those whose Christian doctrine may differ.
Which presents its own set of challenges, of course. But that's another topic. (I hope) - LOL

 

[amigo de christo]

take close heed .
I am going to show us the problem.
The problem of all nations and peoples .
China first
Russia first
Canada first
America first
SEE THE PROBLEM YET .
IF the peoples of all nations HAD PUT JESUS FIRST , THEN WE HAD Been far better off .
But putting anyones nation first , putting ones hopes into the earthern kingdom and their rulers
and into politics and etc
LEADS and will lead only to this lets put ecumenical inclusive
ANTI CHRIST FIRST as soon all will heed its digital anti christ we are one peace n safety plan .
SO my advice will remain the same . GET out of anything ecumeincal
stop hoping in men
AND RUN TO JESUS and open that bible and learn and love reading it

 

[Wick Stick]

take close heed .
I am going to show us the problem.
The problem of all nations and peoples .
China first
Russia first
Canada first
America first
SEE THE PROBLEM YET .
IF the peoples of all nations HAD PUT JESUS FIRST , THEN WE HAD Been far better off .
But putting anyones nation first , putting ones hopes into the earthern kingdom and their rulers
and into politics and etc
LEADS and will lead only to this lets put ecumenical inclusive
ANTI CHRIST FIRST as soon all will heed its digital anti christ we are one peace n safety plan .
SO my advice will remain the same . GET out of anything ecumeincal
stop hoping in men
AND RUN TO JESUS and open that bible and learn and love reading it

But Amigo...

Moronica is for the Morons. It says so right on the flag:

 

[amigo de christo]

But Amigo...

Moronica is for the Morons. It says so right on the flag:
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well i aint gonna call those who follow the ecumencial movement morons .
I will however call them the decieved being led into greater deceptoin . Not so aggressive my friend .
BUT SURE IS T RUE none the less . POSITIVE RE Enforcment . dont be so negative my friend .
BUT ALWAYS SPEAK THE TRUTH . So know this , ecumeincalism is of anti christ .
And while the deceptoin starts small , OH ERROR SURE WILL BEGET MORE ERROR . Hope that encouraged ya .

 

[Marvelloustime]

take close heed .
I am going to show us the problem.
The problem of all nations and peoples .
China first
Russia first
Canada first
America first
SEE THE PROBLEM YET .
IF the peoples of all nations HAD PUT JESUS FIRST , THEN WE HAD Been far better off .
But putting anyones nation first , putting ones hopes into the earthern kingdom and their rulers
and into politics and etc
LEADS and will lead only to this lets put ecumenical inclusive
ANTI CHRIST FIRST as soon all will heed its digital anti christ we are one peace n safety plan .
SO my advice will remain the same . GET out of anything ecumeincal
stop hoping in men
AND RUN TO JESUS and open that bible and learn and love reading it

@amigo de christo

 

[ShineTheLight]

Would you surrender your own beliefs in the cause of doctrinal unity?​

This is a follow-up to the previous topic: Unity of the faith - at what cost? Link below.

Probably the biggest roadblock to Christian doctrinal unity is holding on to the freedom we have to determine our own beliefs.
Would you surrender your own beliefs in the cause of Christian doctrinal unity?

Unity of the faith - at what cost?

Just to be clear, I do not seek Christian doctrinal unity. Defined as EVERYONE surrendering to a predetermined set of beliefs.
I believe that unity comes when we accept each other no matter our differences.
That we seek to understand each other instead of rejecting those whose Christian doctrine may differ.
Which presents its own set of challenges, of course. But that's another topic. (I hope) - LOL

Are you getting paid to ask all of these questions? If you're wondering if I am getting paid to ask mines, no.

 

[Brakelite]

Would you surrender your own beliefs in the cause of Christian doctrinal unity?

The church of Laodicea is the final church age before Christ comes. There is no other church after Laodicea. The church that Jesus takes home with Him is repentant Laodicea. A church that repented of her lukewarmness, received Christ, and published the final gospel (Revel.14:6-12) to a all the world. The Laodicea church's issues that Jesus was pointing out to them was that they were content on being miserable, wretched, poor, blind, and naked. Nothing in there about not having doctrinal unity. In other words, they knew the truth, they had the correct teachings, but we're apathetic and lazy and made Jesus sick.
So what is the lesson here? We need to receive Christ. We need to be filled with the Holy Spirit. We need to be forming characters and living lives that God can approve of. We need to be filled with compassion and love for the lost. We need to be preaching the gospel and warning people everywhere of the imminent coming of Christ so that they can be prepared and repent of their lukewarm apathetic self contented attitudes.
Unity in belief, especially if we have come to that unity by compromising truth, will just further blind us to the reality of our wretched condition and make us more complacent than ever.