WW3: What Should/Will It Look Like?

[Earburner]

No, it is a valley at "Megiddo". It is a literal place, 66 miles from Jerusalem. It is the place where the armies of the best will be destroyed by Christ who descends from the clouds there.


Rev 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
Rev 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
Rev 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
Rev 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
Rev 16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

This is how this army gets to Armageddon.

My point is, Megiddo is a real place but Armageddon is the global event of "the great day of God Almighty", which is clearly described in 2 Thes. 1:7-10 and 2 Peter 3:10-13.
Rev. 16
[14] For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
[15] Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
[16] And he [satan] gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

 

[ewq1938]

My point is, Megiddo is a real place but Armageddon is the global event of "the great day of God Almighty", which is clearly described in 2 Thes. 1:7-10 and 2 Peter 3:10-13.
Rev. 16
[14] For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
[15] Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
[16] And he [satan] gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

Armageddon is not a global event based on the scriptures that actually speak of it. Rev 16 shows the beast taking his army to Armageddon to be there when Christ arrives and Rev 19 shows that arrival, and the slaughter of that entire army. Christ does nothing globally in either passage. That idea comes solely from Eisegesis which is to insert other ideas into the text that the text does not contain.

 

[BlessedPeace]

No one knows until it arrives. Pray it never does.

 

[ScottA]

The foreknowledge of God:
KJV Rev. 9:13-21.

The Global Agenda since 1871:

Albert Pike Letter to Mazzini - The Illuminati Plan for World War 3 August 15, 1871

www.bibliotecapleyades.net

You got it!

 

[quietthinker]

WW3: What Should/Will It Look Like?​

A lake of fire?

 

[Truth7t7]

Rev. 13
[18] Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

And so, there never was a man that had wisdom, that had to deal with his number, of items that was freely given to him....in/for one year??
Please see 1 Kings 10:1-14
[14] Now the weight [amount] of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold.

The symbolism of it has to do with gold, which to us today is fiat "money" for "buying and selling", of which soon shall be "digitized money", along with a "Digital ID" for every man.

In the event of a global disaster, caused by a global cataclysmic situation, natural or man made,
Please research what "Universal Basic Income" (UBI) is.

I Disagree, your interpretation is way out in left field, the scripture is plain and simple as you have been shown

 

[Earburner]

I Disagree, your interpretation is way out in left field, the scripture is plain and simple as you have been shown

Yes. You can disagree, but now you know why and from where Rev. references the number "six hundred, threescore and six".

 

[Earburner]

No one knows until it arrives. Pray it never does.

Our prayers have been answered by our faith in Jesus:
2 Peter 3
[13] Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for NEW heavens and a NEW earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

 

[Earburner]

WW3: What Should/Will It Look Like?​

A lake of fire?

WW3 is not the lake of fire!
But Yes! There will be the Lake of fire, caused by Jesus Himself, on that Day. His Glorious presence from heaven will be the origin of it.
KJV 2 Thes. 1:7-10
[7] And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
[8] In flaming fire taking vengeance on them [all] that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
[9] Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Heb. 12
[29] For our God is a consuming fire.

See also 2 Peter 3.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

If we have a WW3 most people will starve to death.

Look at all of the people who support that the world has to depopulate by up to 80%, So more than half have been earmarked set to go, the Covid Jabs would be the smartest way to achieve such an ends, having their immunity system compromised would be a joy to such people who want reduction of the population that they demand in fact that the world must do or we will all die they claim. if any one does not believe that such people are truly deadly serious about such an outcome, you must be asleep to it or ignorant or one of them.

 

[ewq1938]

Yes! Jesus Himself, on that Day, is the origin of it.
KJV 2 Thes. 1:7-10
[7] And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
[8] In flaming fire taking vengeance on them [all] that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
[9] Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Heb. 12
[29] For our God is a consuming fire.

See also 2 Peter 3.

And that day of the NHNE is here (not the second coming from heaven to Earth):

Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

 

[BlessedPeace]

Our prayers have been answered by our faith in Jesus:
2 Peter 3
[13] Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for NEW heavens and a NEW earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Always surprising when some can't wish for the world to be destroyed.

The ultimate, we told ya so.

 

[ewq1938]

Yes! Jesus Himself, on that Day, is the origin of it.
KJV 2 Thes. 1:7-10
[7] And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
[8] In flaming fire taking vengeance on them [all] that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
[9] Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Note that this says Jesus returns IN flaming fire (which is a flash of lightning) not that he shoots fire at people. No scripture ever shows Jesus using fire at the second coming to kill people. Amill will always misuse and misrepresent 2 Thes. 1:7-10 to force it's fictional fire breathing Jesus.

 

[quietthinker]

Yes! Jesus Himself, on that Day, is the origin of it.
KJV 2 Thes. 1:7-10
[7] And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
[8] In flaming fire taking vengeance on them [all] that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
[9] Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Heb. 12
[29] For our God is a consuming fire.

See also 2 Peter 3.

Does God destroy? Absolutely!
How does God destroy? Isn't Calvary sufficient, loud enough and unprecedented enough to allow blind eyes to see and deaf ears to hear?......or are they intentionally closed, blocked and unwilling?

 

[quietthinker]

Note that this says Jesus returns IN flaming fire (which is a flash of lightning) not that he shoots fire at people. No scripture ever shows Jesus using fire at the second coming to kill people. Amill will always misuse and misrepresent 2 Thes. 1:7-10 to force it's fictional fire breathing Jesus.

The flaming fire of God is his LOVE.......and who is able to stand?

 

[ewq1938]

The flaming fire of God is his LOVE.......and who is able to stand?

No, it's not love. It's a flash of lightning...that's how fast Christ returns.

2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

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In flaming fire is regarding how Christ returns not how the unsaved are killed. Flaming means a flash and fire is specifically lightning according to the Strong's concordance. So, Christ comes in a flash of lightning to arrive and take vengeance (the sword of his mouth Rev 19) on the unsaved and that shouldn't be surprising because we were told that by Christ:

Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.



This denotes the speed of his return like a flash of lightning. It has nothing to do with using fire or lightning against the unsaved to kill them. To think that is to misread the verses.


Just read Rev 19 where the battle is described and you will see ZERO fire or lightning used to kill anyone.


2Th 1:7-8

And to you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels In A FLASH OF LIGHTNING
taking vengeance (with a sword according to Revelation 19) on them that know not God and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ


2Th 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

While this is the very next verse it is wrong to insert that this is "at the same time" as the previous verse. The return of Christ and the vengeance against those that know not God happens a long time before the "everlasting destruction". Verse 9 is parenthetical, a statement outside of the surrounding context. The rest is the second coming. "shall be" is in the future tense so it does not happen at the same timeframe as the events of the previous verse ie: taking vengeance.

 

[Earburner]

Yes. But that Prophecy is specific to the plans to destroy Israel by an Islamic confederation. It is unfolding before our eyes today.
The Lord will destroy them, and at the same time; all the ungodly and Jesus hating people in the entire Middle East area.

Yes, that IS WW3, and is now unfolding, as prophesied in Rev. 9:13-21. However, it is NOT Armageddon.
But, if it turns into a raging genocide of a 1/3 of men killed off, then it will turn into Armageddon, but ONLY when Christ should come FROM HEAVEN..

2 Thes. 1:7-10 is Armageddon, as shown in Rev. 19
[19] And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
[20] And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received** the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped [complied with] his image [the UN]. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
[21] And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

Note: the mark of the beast has not been issued as of yet. Although, it is not far off!!

 

[Earburner]

Always surprising when some can't wish for the world to be destroyed.

The ultimate, we told ya so.

At this moment, in this time, the "church" as a whole, is NOT "Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat". 2 Peter 3:12.
Most are asleep with their "religion".

In flaming fire taking vengeance ON THEM...ALL the unsaved (Rom. 8:9) in "that day"!!
2Thes. 1:7-10.
Luke 17:28-30**.

**It will be a simultaneous event.
The saints are changed in a twinkling of an eye, to meet the Lord in the Air, but on the earth all the wicked will be burned up and destroyed.

 

[ewq1938]

The saints are changed in a twinkling of an eye, to meet the Lord in the Air, but on the earth all the wicked will be burned up and destroyed.

Both Rev 2 and 19 promise a future rule over the nations AFTER the second coming (and the limited killing done then). This claim that all are killed is not scriptural but even after being corrected, the same false and unscriptural claim is made.

The arrival of Christ for the second time accomplishes many things including the vials of wrath and destroying the army of the beast at Armageddon as well as resulting in the beast and false prophet being cast into the LOF. There is one more thing mentioned during the second coming that many do not notice which is the future rule over the nations which proves there are unsaved mortals that are set aside for being ruled over by the rod of iron:

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite (Aorist tense verb with PRESENT tense meaning) the nations: and he shall rule (FUTURE tense verb) them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth (PRESENT tense verb) the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Revelation 19 :: King James Version (KJV)

Revelation 19 - And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

www.blueletterbible.org

Revelation 19:15 Interlinear: and out of his mouth doth proceed a sharp sword, that with it he may smite the nations, and he shall rule them with a rod of iron, and he doth tread the press of the wine of the wrath and the anger of God the Almighty,

Here rule/poimaino is in the FUTURE tense meaning it will happen at some point AFTER the second coming and battle of Armageddon while treadeth/pateo is written in the PRESENT tense meaning it is happening during this second coming. The treading and smiting are happening at Armageddon but not the ruling which proves mortals will be alive after Armageddon is over. This proves the Premill position because indeed there is a future rule of people who were not slain during the second coming that Christ and his saints will rule over.


Amillennialism wouldn't even exist if the first person to teach it bothered to check the verb tenses in Revelation 19.


A second witness to this:

Rev 2:25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

That is the second coming. Everything we read of next comes after the second coming:

Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

After "the end" comes, there is given power over the nations to those that are overcomers. They will be given power over the mortal unsaved nations after Christ has returned not before it.

 

[Earburner]

No, it's not love. It's a flash of lightning...that's how fast Christ returns.

2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

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From a primary f?e´?? phlego¯ (to “flash” or “flame”); a blaze: - flame (-ing).

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pur
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A primary word; “fire” (literally or figuratively, specifically lightning): - fiery, fire.


In flaming fire is regarding how Christ returns not how the unsaved are killed. Flaming means a flash and fire is specifically lightning according to the Strong's concordance. So, Christ comes in a flash of lightning to arrive and take vengeance (the sword of his mouth Rev 19) on the unsaved and that shouldn't be surprising because we were told that by Christ:

Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.



This denotes the speed of his return like a flash of lightning. It has nothing to do with using fire or lightning against the unsaved to kill them. To think that is to misread the verses.


Just read Rev 19 where the battle is described and you will see ZERO fire or lightning used to kill anyone.


2Th 1:7-8

And to you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels In A FLASH OF LIGHTNING
taking vengeance (with a sword according to Revelation 19) on them that know not God and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ


2Th 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

While this is the very next verse it is wrong to insert that this is "at the same time" as the previous verse. The return of Christ and the vengeance against those that know not God happens a long time before the "everlasting destruction". Verse 9 is parenthetical, a statement outside of the surrounding context. The rest is the second coming. "shall be" is in the future tense so it does not happen at the same timeframe as the events of the previous verse ie: taking vengeance.

As I did say in post #38: most of the church is asleep with it's "religion".
In fact, most are beginning to turn into "scoffers", hoping for a different hope, as in a period of 1000 years of peace on earth.

Amazing!! That is exactly what the WEF with Klaus Schwab is doing. They are "resetting" the earth and the world through chaos, for THEIR idea of "peace and safety".

But the Lord says this by His Spirit:
1 Thes. 5[3] For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.