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rdventen

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Are God's laws for the Christians today or are they only for the unsaved? My answer is even more so, because by the law we know what is required of us by God as His children in order to live a Godly life here in an unsaved sinful world. Now I know that to believe this gos against the belief of most Christians because people ether saved or unsaved do not want to be held accountable for the choices that they make whither knowingly or not, but the word of God tells us differently as you can see by some of the verses below. You will see it is not keeping the law of God that is sin but by not keeping the law is sin.

Romans 7 (New King James Version)

Sin’s Advantage in the Law


[sup]7[/sup] What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.”[sup][a][/sup] [sup]8[/sup] But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, produced in me all manner of evil desire. For apart from the law sin was dead. [sup]9[/sup] I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died. [sup]10[/sup] And the commandment, which was to bring life, I found to bring death. [sup]11[/sup] For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it killed me. [sup]12[/sup] Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good.
Law Cannot Save from Sin

[sup]13[/sup] Has then what is good become death to me? Certainly not! But sin, that it might appear sin, was producing death in me through what is good, so that sin through the commandment might become exceedingly sinful. [sup]14[/sup] For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin. [sup]15[/sup] For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do. [sup]16[/sup] If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good. [sup]17[/sup] But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. [sup]18[/sup] For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. [sup]19[/sup] For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. [sup]20[/sup] Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.
[sup]21[/sup] I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good. [sup]22[/sup] For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man. [sup]23[/sup] But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. [sup]24[/sup] O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? [sup]25[/sup] I thank God—through Jesus Christ our Lord!
So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.



(New King James Version)
  1. Isaiah 59:2
    But your iniquities have separated you from your God; And your sins have hidden His face from you, So that He will not hear.
    Isaiah 59:1-3 (in Context) Isaiah 59 (Whole Chapter)
  2. Jeremiah 5:25
    Your iniquities have turned these things away, And your sins have withheld good from you.
    Jeremiah 5:24-26 (in Context) Jeremiah 5 (Whole Chapter)
  3. Jeremiah 30:14
    All your lovers have forgotten you; They do not seek you; For I have wounded you with the wound of an enemy, With the chastisement of a cruel one, For the multitude of your iniquities, Becauseyour sins have increased.
    Jeremiah 30:13-15 (in Context) Jeremiah 30 (Whole Chapter)
  4. Jeremiah 30:15
    Why do you cry about your affliction? Your sorrow is incurable. Because of the multitude of your iniquities, Because your sins have increased, I have done these things to you.
Isaiah 59
Separated from God
1 Behold, the LORD’s hand is not shortened,
That it cannot save;
Nor His ear heavy,
That it cannot hear.
2 But your iniquities have separated you from your God;
And your sins have hidden His face from you,
So that He will not hear.
3 For your hands are defiled with blood,
And your fingers with iniquity;
Your lips have spoken lies,
Your tongue has muttered perversity.

15 Why do you cry about your affliction?
Your sorrow is incurable.
Because of the multitude of your iniquities,
Because your sins have increased,
I have done these things to you.
16 ‘ Therefore all those who devour you shall be devoured;
And all your adversaries, every one of them, shall go into captivity;
Those who plunder you shall become plunder,
And all who prey upon you I will make a prey.
 

Brother Mike

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Would it be more rdventen that by keeping the command of Love thought the power of the Holy Spirit that in Love, we keep the whole law?

I was not real clear on your point, but that stealing is still wrong, under the law or not under the Law.

Be blessed.

Jesus Is Lord.
 

rdventen

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Would it be more rdventen that by keeping the command of Love thought the power of the Holy Spirit that in Love, we keep the whole law?

I was not real clear on your point, but that stealing is still wrong, under the law or not under the Law.

Be blessed.

Jesus Is Lord.

I was not real clear on your point, but that stealing is still wrong, under the law or not under the Law.

Well how did you know that? Was it not by the law, because God says it is wrong, or do you think that man came up with it by himself? No but God teaches us right from wrong through the law, and by us keeping His laws we honor Him, even Jesus said, if you love me keep My commandments. We don't keep the laws of God to work for our own salvation, but to honor Him and love Him.

I hope this helps. Read my last post again, maybe you missed something.