We will be Judge according to our works and having Faith!

[bro.tan]

The christian world we living in today doesn’t seem to understand what type of works this is. The Faith without works in the title displaying is concerning your works, not the works of others. It’s starts off with repentance, that’s one of the first thing Jesus says when he got started in his ministry, Jesus says in Luke 5:32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. This lesson is to focus on your works and your faith in the word of God, because you need both. When people see works in the Bible spoken by Paul and they see law, being put together, they assume that’s talking about the Royal law (Commandments). The works of the law was nail to the cross, and that works were animal sacrificial laws and Priesthood laws. These laws were a school master pointing us to the fact that Jesus would be sacrificed for our sins. Since Jesus died we are no longer under a school master, (required to offer up bulls and goats for our sins).

Now we must believe (have faith) Jesus died for us. Let’s first take a look at this law that was nail to the cross that Paul explains in Hebrews 10: (v.1) For the law (what law, the law of animal sacrifice?) having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. (v.9) Then said he, (Jesus) Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first that he may establish the second. (v.10) By which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

When Jesus died on the cross that was the end of the first covenant, which consisted of the blood of animals and the keeping of God’s commandments. And his death also brought in the second covenant, which consist of the blood of Jesus and the keeping of God’s commandments. (v.18) Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. In other words, no more animals are going to die for your sins.

Let’s take a look at both laws in one verse, the Royal law (Ten commandments) and the animal sacrificial law in Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. This law is part of the commandments. Paul, is quoting Moses, let's take a look. Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen. (Deuteronomy 27:26). So when you broke the royal law (commandments), you have to do the works of the law, and this was animal sacrifice.

So now Jesus is the High Priest, no need to deal with that law any more for now. The first works you have to put in for is repentance. You have to repent. Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord, (Act 3: 19). You must give up a lifestyle where sin has dominion, (ruler ship) over you. Sin according to 1 John 3:4, Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression (breaking) of the law.

So let’s take a look at some of these works of repentance, and what you have to base your change from. Now, Paul concerning the unchangeable Royal Law of God. In (Rom. 13:7-10) (v.7) Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour. (v.8) Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. That’s the biblical definition of love, the keeping of God’s law. And you thought love was kissing and hugging and rolling around in bed. (v.9) For this, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, THOU SHALT NOT KILL, THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS, THOU SHALT NOT COVET; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF. (v.10) Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

And that is what God’s holy commandments are all about; the first four tells you how to love God and the last six tells you how to love your neighbor. If you love your God you will not do any thing to offend him, like having other gods before him. You will do as he says like remember the sabbath day to keep it holy on the seventh day of the week. If you love him you will obey him when he tells you not to eat certain meats etc… And the same goes for your fellow man, if you love your neighbor you wouldn’t steal from him, you wouldn’t kill him, you wouldn’t try and sleep with his wife and so on and so forth. This is God’s definition of love and it is perfect in its ways. So if you say that you know God, but you don’t keep his commandments, let's see what the Lord had specially written for you. (See exodus 20: 1-17).

 

[bro.tan]

So now you may see some changes you have to make in your life. It's not an over night thing, it’s a lifetime. Taking the time to read through the whole Bible over and over, you will learn something new every time. This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success. (Joshua 1:8). Read the word of God for yourself daily and pray for understanding and wisdom with a pure heart and it will be so.

Let’s take a look at something Peter says, in Acts 1: 36-38 "Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, "repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.” Anyone that is not baptized is a person with their sins yet upon them, because it is the baptism that washes away our past sins. "And now why tarriest thou? Arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord." (Acts 22:16):

If we truly love God, then we will obey "Every word" that proceeds out of his mouth (Matthew 4:4). Baptism is one of those words. In order to be baptized, certain events must take place: You must give up a lifestyle where sin has dominion, (ruler ship) over you. Sin according to 1 John 3:4, Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression (breaking) of the law. You must be taught "The Word", before you can adhere to God's commandments (judgments\statues). These laws are found in the Holy Bible; beginning with Genesis and ending with Revelation.

Now this is how faith and works start working together, doing all those things that are written to do. What did Jesus say in John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. Let’s see who else you have to love, Jesus says in Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; People complain about the way the world is and won’t change themselves, to do the will of God. Pay attention to what Jesus says in Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. And that sword is the Word of God. Take a copy of this and past it around and look at people faces, because they have to clean themselves up.

Let’s take a look at what Paul says in Colossians 3: 5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: 6 for which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: 7in the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them. 8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. 9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; 10 and have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: 12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; 13 forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye. 14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.

Believe it or not this is a lot work for some of us, a lot of changes, but this is the word of God. We work on ourselves daily, killing the old man, the old person, making that change. But let’s take a look at some other things we must change as men and women, and even children, when it comes to the word of God, in Colossians 3: 18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord. 19 Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them. 20 Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord. 21 Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged. 22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God: 23 and whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men; 24 knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.

 

[Behold]

The christian world we living in today doesn’t seem to understand what type of works this is.

Reader.,

Salvation is Christ on the Cross dying for ALL your sin.

@bro.tan ...would you like to try that WORK so that you can try to save yourself. ?

I know of a person who BELIEVED that the work He was to do was take a knife and castrate himself "for the Lord" because He read about a eunuch in the Bible, and decided that Jesus wanted Him to do that to himself.

I know another one, who built a bomb and blew up an abortion clinic, and killed a few people, because he wanted to please Jesus, and felt "led to do it' and he was also encouraged to do it by the leadership in His Pentecostal Church.
He doesn't feel that way about it now, as Prison changes you he's discovered....... and neither does the spiritual moron with the KNIFE, feel the same way about it, as before.

Gotta watch those 'inner voices" AS they might just be a DEMON.

@bro.tan .....Did you want to try that Cross? To save yourself, ?
You'll need some nails and a tree, and a lot of self righteousness., and you definitely have that ready to go., Mr LAW and Works.

If you decide to try it, Mr Legalist, (and id advise against it)... but if you just must.... then hand someone your Cell Phone before you nail yourself to a Tree.
You should use a hammer as if you try to do it with your hard head, then you might pass out.
Can't have that.
Hang in there.....or your works, fail again.
Have them make a 4K video of what your devoujt pride looks like hanging up there....., as its always interesting to watch a chronic self saver try to replace the Cross of Christ with their own self righteousness, and NT ignorance.

Now, not everyone will try it with the Nail and the Hammer.
Most try it with WORKS and WATER Baptism and Enduring and all similar types of SELF EFFORT = Works.
And that includes trying to KEEP THE LAW, so that you can try to save YOURSELF or try to Keep yourself SAVED.
See, ....Thats just one more CROSS you are hanging on..........and the nails are your Own SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS.

And for you who read my Post, and you are sitting there with your mouth open, and your eyes are slightly bulging...

Just think of it what i wrote as a Sermon or a Sunday School lesson that has some "salt" in it.

See, one of the issues with "modern Christians" is. .on one hand they want to be spoon fed, and on the other hand they want to take credit for their salvaiton.

So, its good for them to understand that this Salvation that God has given as the BLOODY massacre of His precious Son, whereby they torn off his skin with whips and broke his nose and teeth and his ribs were exposed.

And how do you know that they broke Christ's nose and teeth? Its because the KVJ says that """""Jesus was marred beyond recognition"""", and you recognize someone by their FACE., not by their side or back....And reader, those Romans never Hit His face with a Whip, to "Marred beyond recognition" = your Savior, so it had to be fists and boots.

Also...
You could see the RIBS of Jesus, before they finished what was only a part of YOUR Eternal SALVATION.
He still had to carry it and be nailed to it, just for YOUR SIN and mine.
What did He do to deserve it?

A.) YOUR Sin.

See, Its good to GET REAL.
Gotta keep it real so that people keep their eyes on Jesus for their Salvation.

Make sure you do.

<B><

 

[BlessedPeace]

Our deeds will be weighed and those will determine our reward. However,our works,deeds,aren't judged as a means of whether they save us.

We are eternally irrevocably saved by grace of God.
Our good deeds are proof of this. Not a means to secure that.

 

[Behold]

Our deeds will be weighed and those will determine our reward. However,our works,deeds,aren't judged as a means of whether they save us.

We are eternally irrevocably saved by grace of God.
Our good deeds are proof of this. Not a means to secure that.

That's right Brother, as only JESUS Saves.

 

[bro.tan]

Reader.,

Salvation is Christ on the Cross dying for ALL your sin.

@bro.tan ...would you like to try that WORK so that you can try to save yourself. ?

I know of a person who BELIEVED that the work He was to do was take a knife and castrate himself "for the Lord" because He read about a eunuch in the Bible, and decided that Jesus wanted Him to do that to himself.

I know another one, who built a bomb and blew up an abortion clinic, and killed a few people, because he wanted to please Jesus, and felt "led to do it' and he was also encouraged to do it by the leadership in His Pentecostal Church.
He doesn't feel that way about it now, as Prison changes you he's discovered....... and neither does the spiritual moron with the KNIFE, feel the same way about it, as before.

Gotta watch those 'inner voices" AS they might just be a DEMON.

@bro.tan .....Did you want to try that Cross? To save yourself, ?
You'll need some nails and a tree, and a lot of self righteousness., and you definitely have that ready to go., Mr LAW and Works.

If you decide to try it, Mr Legalist, (and id advise against it)... but if you just must.... then hand someone your Cell Phone before you nail yourself to a Tree.
You should use a hammer as if you try to do it with your hard head, then you might pass out.
Can't have that.
Hang in there.....or your works, fail again.
Have them make a 4K video of what your devoujt pride looks like hanging up there....., as its always interesting to watch a chronic self saver try to replace the Cross of Christ with their own self righteousness, and NT ignorance.

Now, not everyone will try it with the Nail and the Hammer.
Most try it with WORKS and WATER Baptism and Enduring and all similar types of SELF EFFORT = Works.
And that includes trying to KEEP THE LAW, so that you can try to save YOURSELF or try to Keep yourself SAVED.
See, ....Thats just one more CROSS you are hanging on..........and the nails are your Own SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS.

And for you who read my Post, and you are sitting there with your mouth open, and your eyes are slightly bulging...

Just think of it what i wrote as a Sermon or a Sunday School lesson that has some "salt" in it.

See, one of the issues with "modern Christians" is. .on one hand they want to be spoon fed, and on the other hand they want to take credit for their salvaiton.

So, its good for them to understand that this Salvation that God has given as the BLOODY massacre of His precious Son, whereby they torn off his skin with whips and broke his nose and teeth and his ribs were exposed.

And how do you know that they broke Christ's nose and teeth? Its because the KVJ says that """""Jesus was marred beyond recognition"""", and you recognize someone by their FACE., not by their side or back....And reader, those Romans never Hit His face with a Whip, to "Marred beyond recognition" = your Savior, so it had to be fists and boots.

Also...
You could see the RIBS of Jesus, before they finished what was only a part of YOUR Eternal SALVATION.
He still had to carry it and be nailed to it, just for YOUR SIN and mine.
What did He do to deserve it?

A.) YOUR Sin.

See, Its good to GET REAL.
Gotta keep it real so that people keep their eyes on Jesus for their Salvation.

Make sure you do.

<B><

It's all in the Bible, all in the Bible, in the word of God. I didn't free speak, I quoted from the Bible, but Paul said in (Gal. 6 (v.3) For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. (v.4) But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.

The book says let every man prove his own work, and if your work is good then you will rejoice in it. (v.5) For every man shall bear his own burden. That’s right; every man must bear his own burden. You mean you thought that all you had to do was confess the name of Jesus and that was it? Brothers and sisters you must work to get salvation. (v.7) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. God is not to be played with. Whatsoever you plant, that’s what you are going to reap. Be it good works unto eternal life, or evil works unto eternal damnation. The choice is yours, and your works belong to you.

 

[bro.tan]

Some of the great patriarchs in (Heb.11) gave up a lot, some even their lives in exchange for their soul. You see they had great faith (belief) that their souls (bodies) would be raised at the first resurrection. And some of you won’t even give up some of the littlest things like, going to church on Sunday, the pagan holidays of Christmas and Easter, praying to the Virgin Mary, I could go on and on. And most so-called Christians know these rituals have nothing to do with Jesus and the Bible, but a lot of work get put into them. But do they understand that they are offensive to God? Maybe it’s because they have more faith in man than God, maybe it’s because they fear how man is going to treat them, and don’t fear God. But listen up; (v.27) For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his holy angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Now these are the words of Jesus (the Son of man), you know the savior of the world. He said that when he comes he is going to judge every man according to his works. Don't be deceived thinking you all you need to do is have faith in the Lord and you will be saved?

 

[MatthewG]

If a person wants to hold a sabbath let no man hold it against them x

Colossians 2:16;

Paul afforded the people of Colossians, whom he wrote saying “Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.”

If a person desires to hold a Sabbath, that is wonderful. What is not afforded is that you can judge them for holding one for accounting themselves to God in their measure of deciding to hold one. What also is not afforded is condemnation upon people’s who hold one, and someone else does not.

None of it makes a person any better before God; however one will continue in faith, seeing as its God who works through them, in order for them to have salvation from the unrest of aches within the flesh (our soul - mind/will/emotions). And continues to feed their souls as long as they are doing it before God, in faith.

No one can say your not a believer in the good news which was the death, burial, and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ, except you telling yourself you do not believe it, and see no need for God, or his Son.

The resurrection of the Lord Yeshua, is where new life starts, and begins in God I dwelling you in order to produce fruits of love for God and all people, putting the old man in the grave “the old person where you were in darkness” and rising again to “the new person who now walks in the light.” Receiving deliverance from a heart of stone. To a heart of flesh (producing love by the spirit), a softer heart, seen as weak to most people. Carrying one’s cross; individually -

With only your Father in Heaven being your judge. Not everyone else. It’s important to remember how we should respect our own place before Yahavah whom judges all at death in my opinion.

Hold a sabbath if you want. Religious festival? New Moons? Whatever you wanna do, do it before God, whom is your Father and leave other opinions of others and push them to the side for once and see what the spirit tells you.

Hate your neighbor?

 

[bro.tan]

Our deeds will be weighed and those will determine our reward. However,our works,deeds,aren't judged as a means of whether they save us.

We are eternally irrevocably saved by grace of God.
Our good deeds are proof of this. Not a means to secure that.

The say in Revelation 20: 11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Not sure what you book you reading, but even Paul says in 1 Corinthians 6:9" Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Let continue with Paul. Let go into Galatians 5: Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Nevertheless, in judgment each one of us will give account for our own salvation. Therefore, we must not let anyone lead us down the wrong path, but should verify all of our teaching with the holy bible. YOUR SALVATION IS AT STAKE! "...work out your own salvation with fear and trembling" (Philippians 2:12).

 

[bro.tan]

If a person wants to hold a sabbath let no man hold it against them x

Colossians 2:16;

Paul afforded the people of Colossians, whom he wrote saying “Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.”

If a person desires to hold a Sabbath, that is wonderful. What is not afforded is that you can judge them for holding one for accounting themselves to God in their measure of deciding to hold one. What also is not afforded is condemnation upon people’s who hold one, and someone else does not.

None of it makes a person any better before God; however one will continue in faith, seeing as its God who works through them, in order for them to have salvation from the unrest of aches within the flesh (our soul - mind/will/emotions). And continues to feed their souls as long as they are doing it before God, in faith.

No one can say your not a believer in the good news which was the death, burial, and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ, except you telling yourself you do not believe it, and see no need for God, or his Son.

The resurrection of the Lord Yeshua, is where new life starts, and begins in God I dwelling you in order to produce fruits of love for God and all people, putting the old man in the grave “the old person where you were in darkness” and rising again to “the new person who now walks in the light.” Receiving deliverance from a heart of stone. To a heart of flesh (producing love by the spirit), a softer heart, seen as weak to most people. Carrying one’s cross; individually -

With only your Father in Heaven being your judge. Not everyone else. It’s important to remember how we should respect our own place before Yahavah whom judges all at death in my opinion.

Hold a sabbath if you want. Religious festival? New Moons? Whatever you wanna do, do it before God, whom is your Father and leave other opinions of others and push them to the side for once and see what the spirit tells you.

Hate your neighbor?

Where I come from telling someone to keep the commandments is love, go nothing to do with hate. In the scriptures it's written in Ezekiel 18: 19 Yet say ye, Why? doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live. 20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. 21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. 22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live. 23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?

Grace is nothing more than a free gift. And that free gift is our access back to the tree of life (Jesus) which Adam caused us to lose by disobeying God. Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: (Romans 5: 12) But to maintain your grace you must keep the law. (1John 3:4) Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Now we have just read the biblical definition of sin, the transgression (breaking) of the law (commandments.) It doesn’t matter what you or I think sin is, it’s what God says sin is that counts.

A man asked Jesus this very question, "...What good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?", and Jesus replied, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. (Matthew 19:16-19).

 

[MatthewG]

I’m glad my sins were paid for, and the whole worlds @bro.tan. God writes his laws on the minds and hearts of who are his by his spirit which indwells the good news believer. I believe the Old Testament is profitable to some degree or another for our Learning.

 

[BlessedPeace]

The say in Revelation 20: 11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Not sure what you book you reading, but even Paul says in 1 Corinthians 6:9" Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Let continue with Paul. Let go into Galatians 5: Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Nevertheless, in judgment each one of us will give account for our own salvation. Therefore, we must not let anyone lead us down the wrong path, but should verify all of our teaching with the holy bible. YOUR SALVATION IS AT STAKE! "...work out your own salvation with fear and trembling" (Philippians 2:12).

Paul was a Pharisee. He was wrong thinking we need to work to stay saved. We know this because his sect were condemned as vipers of their father the Devil,by Christ himself.

Because the Pharisees and Sadducees that condemned Jesus to death did so because they were Legalists. And Jesus condemned that.

Discernment is key when reading scripture. We are saved by the grace of God.

Not by following the rules of Paul.


Also,that chapter tells us the answer to the question,do we go immediately to heaven after death. No. As we read there.

Beware of those for whom that is funny.
Vipers whose father is the Devil did not cease to exist when the last of the Pharisees and Sadducees died in 1st century.

 

[bro.tan]

Paul was a Pharisee. He was wrong thinking we need to work to stay saved. We know this because his sect were condemned as vipers of their father the Devil,by Christ himself.

Because the Pharisees and Sadducees that condemned Jesus to death did so because they were Legalists. And Jesus condemned that.

Discernment is key when reading scripture. We are saved by the grace of God.

Not by following the rules of Paul.


Also,that chapter tells us the answer to the question,do we go immediately to heaven after death. No. As we read there.

Beware of those for whom that is funny.
Vipers whose father is the Devil did not cease to exist when the last of the Pharisees and Sadducees died in 1st century.

Well....according to the Bible Paul is getting in the kingdom of God, so he must have done righteously. But let's take a look at something Peter says in 2 Peter 1: 19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Let's go and see read some scriptures in Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. 14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

Paul says in Titus 3:8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men. This is a life time journey brothers and sisters, you must maintain good works to the end. That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. (2 Timothy 3:17).

 

[bro.tan]

I’m glad my sins were paid for, and the whole worlds @bro.tan. God writes his laws on the minds and hearts of who are his by his spirit which indwells the good news believer. I believe the Old Testament is profitable to some degree or another for our Learning.

Yes indeed our sin are paid for, only if we believe and get baptize in the name the name of Jesus for the remission for sins. Now Paul said in (Rom. 3:23-25) (v.23) For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. (v.24) Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: (v.25) Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God. So the bible tells you to repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (Acts 2 :36-38). And by doing so you come up under his precious blood and then you are saved from your sins that are past, not present or future sins but for sins that are past. We were all locked under death by Adam’s sin, even the second death.

But when Jesus became (he was God in the beginning) man and died for the sins of the world, he gave us access back to the tree of life (himself) which Adam had caused us to lose. That’s what grace is, our free gift our access back to the tree of life but that’s another lesson for another time. So by coming under the blood of Jesus you are saved from your past sins. And if you are saved now, it is on a day to day basis. Because for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God (Romans 23:3), and if you continue to live you will sin again. It is the willful sinning that you need to put in check. For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. (Hebrew 10: 26, 27)

 

[Eternally Grateful]

It's all in the Bible, all in the Bible, in the word of God. I didn't free speak, I quoted from the Bible, but Paul said in (Gal. 6 (v.3) For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. (v.4) But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.

The book says let every man prove his own work, and if your work is good then you will rejoice in it. (v.5) For every man shall bear his own burden. That’s right; every man must bear his own burden. You mean you thought that all you had to do was confess the name of Jesus and that was it? Brothers and sisters you must work to get salvation. (v.7) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. God is not to be played with. Whatsoever you plant, that’s what you are going to reap. Be it good works unto eternal life, or evil works unto eternal damnation. The choice is yours, and your works belong to you.

Here is your problem

the penalty of sin is death

You can’t remove that penalty by work. You can’t remove it by good deeds, every man woman and child has a debt to give to God for every sin that they have commited.

The only way that debt could be paid, or redeemed, Is by the death of an innocent. This is what the law taught.

The law was given to PROVE our sinfulness. And lead us to Christ.

The law showed that only the shedding of blood can we be redeemed. Not your work, Bot your good deeds. All your good deeds in the world will not pay for 1 sin, and how many sins have we commited?

Jesus paid that debt we could not pay. So that if we recieve him in faith, we will no longer be condemned, but we will be saved, We are born again into his family. We do this by receiving him (john 1) not by works

You can work all you want, It will not remove one sin from your debt, You will still owe God your life, and if you do not get saved from this debt, you will suffer this debt for all eternity.

 

[BlessedPeace]

Well....according to the Bible Paul is getting in the kingdom of God, so he must have done righteously. But let's take a look at something Peter says in 2 Peter 1: 19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Let's go and see read some scriptures in Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. 14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

Paul says in Titus 3:8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men. This is a life time journey brothers and sisters, you must maintain good works to the end. That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. (2 Timothy 3:17).

Odd,the warning regarding private interpretation of scripture,when thinking anything in scripture pertaining to our good works as Christians is anything more than evidence of our irrevocable God given grace filled Salvation.

As to only holy men of God received God's messages,given the Bible is not inerrant, and given just the passages in 1 Chronicles 21 and 2 Samuel 24, we might want to give credit where credit is due.

We cannot use the Bible to prove the Bible is true. And we cannot claim it is all of the Holy Spirit when man's history of abrogating it is indelible .
(See the thread relating to Biblio idolatry.)

 

[bro.tan]

Odd,the warning regarding private interpretation of scripture,when thinking anything in scripture pertaining to our good works as Christians is anything more than evidence of our irrevocable God given grace filled Salvation.

As to only holy men of God received God's messages,given the Bible is not inerrant, and given just the passages in 1 Chronicles 21 and 2 Samuel 24, we might want to give credit where credit is due.

We cannot use the Bible to prove the Bible is true. And we cannot claim it is all of the Holy Spirit when man's history of abrogating it is indelible .
(See the thread relating to Biblio idolatry.)

In the scripture it's written Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

 

[bro.tan]

Here is your problem

the penalty of sin is death

You can’t remove that penalty by work. You can’t remove it by good deeds, every man woman and child has a debt to give to God for every sin that they have commited.

The only way that debt could be paid, or redeemed, Is by the death of an innocent. This is what the law taught.

The law was given to PROVE our sinfulness. And lead us to Christ.

The law showed that only the shedding of blood can we be redeemed. Not your work, Bot your good deeds. All your good deeds in the world will not pay for 1 sin, and how many sins have we commited?

Jesus paid that debt we could not pay. So that if we recieve him in faith, we will no longer be condemned, but we will be saved, We are born again into his family. We do this by receiving him (john 1) not by works

You can work all you want, It will not remove one sin from your debt, You will still owe God your life, and if you do not get saved from this debt, you will suffer this debt for all eternity.

Lets go into (James 2: (v.14) What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? Can faith save him? (v.15) If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of a daily food, (v.16) And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? If someone came to you hungry and needed clothes and all you told them was peace be unto you, and God bless you, be ye warmed and filled. All you did was give lip service, no works, you didn’t help the problem.

(v.17) Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. The bible has been telling you all alone that you must have fruits to prove your faith. (v.18) Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. True faith goes hand in hand with good works. (v.20) But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? Did you know that? Has anybody ever read this verse to you? How can you, after reading this verse ever say again that we need not work? You can have all the faith you want, but if you have no works to go along with that faith, that faith is in vain, that faith is dead.

Paul said in (Heb. 6:10-11) (v.10) For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister. (v.11) And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to full assurance of hope unto the end: God is not going to forget your works, nor your labor of love toward his name. But you need to show these same works diligence to have full assurance of hope unto the end. Hope of what? Hope of eternal life. To the end of what? To the end of your life or to the coming of the Lord.

You must work until the end! Jesus said in (Rev. 2:26) And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

 

[BlessedPeace]

In the scripture it's written Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

The whole chapter is necessary for context.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Lets go into (James 2: (v.14) What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? Can faith save him? (v.15) If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of a daily food, (v.16) And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? If someone came to you hungry and needed clothes and all you told them was peace be unto you, and God bless you, be ye warmed and filled. All you did was give lip service, no works, you didn’t help the problem.

(v.17) Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. The bible has been telling you all alone that you must have fruits to prove your faith. (v.18) Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. True faith goes hand in hand with good works. (v.20) But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? Did you know that? Has anybody ever read this verse to you? How can you, after reading this verse ever say again that we need not work? You can have all the faith you want, but if you have no works to go along with that faith, that faith is in vain, that faith is dead.

Lets look at context.

1. They claimed to have faith.
2. They did not show any evidence that that faith was real.
3. Hence their faith was dead. Non-existent)
4. Paul said we are saved by grace THROUGH FAITH

If you do not have faith according to Paul you are not saved.

The reason the people had no work is because they were still lost.

Paul said in (Heb. 6:10-11) (v.10) For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister. (v.11) And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to full assurance of hope unto the end: God is not going to forget your works, nor your labor of love toward his name. But you need to show these same works diligence to have full assurance of hope unto the end. Hope of what? Hope of eternal life. To the end of what? To the end of your life or to the coming of the Lord.

You must work until the end! Jesus said in (Rev. 2:26) And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

1 John 5:4
For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith.

It is still By Grace Through faith not works

your works will not cause one sin to be forgiven, period