Then I would have to say you read that verse again, and continue on to v.27, where Jesus said, that He knows His sheep. That means, it is not those who do not currently believe, but that, Jesus knew they were not of His sheep, and that is why they don’t believe. But we are not like Jesus who knows who the sheep are. So, we don’t get to say that a person is His sheep nor not. What we know is what Jesus said of those who are not of His sheep.Those who do not currently believe are clearly not His sheep according to John 10:26.Tong2020 said: ↑
<<<So, those who do not currently believe are of His sheep?>>>
Some of them may well be His lost sheep. We may see them not believing just yet, but there is an appointed time that will they will hear Jesus and believe.
However, those who do not currently believe are not His sheep. So, His sheep are only those who believe. How then can any of His sheep be lost at any time in their lives? They would be born (the first time), born again.Tong2020 said: ↑
<<<If Jesus didn't die for those who are not sheep, then He didn't die for those who currently do not believe. Therefore, they cannot be saved, because Jesus didn't die for them.>>>
Not that one does not believe now does not mean he will not believe later. Remember, Jesus died for His sheep even while they are still lost.
Now, if Jesus died for the sins of the whole world (which is what the Bible teaches, in 1 John 2:2, 1 Timothy 2:6), then those who currently believe will become His sheep the moment they believe, if they will believe.
But don't give me any of this nonsense about those who currently don't believe currently being His sheep. That is not what the Bible teaches (see John 10:26).
<<<How then can any of His sheep be lost at any time in their lives?>>>
They are lost in the sense that they are out in the world. They ought to be with the Good Shepherd, and at home with Him.
<<<But don't give me any of this nonsense about those who currently don't believe currently being His sheep. That is not what the Bible teaches (see John 10:26)>>>
It may be nonsense to you. Even the wise Greeks in the time of Paul consider the gospel that Paul preached to them as foolishness, nonsense.
I suggest you read that again and keep in mind who is talking there, who is not a mere man, but is the Lord, who in v.27 says He knows His sheep. And understand, it is not because that they don’t believe that they were not of His sheep, rather that because they were not of His sheep is why they don’t believe. Hope you will get that the next time you read that passage in John 10.
Tong
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