About the Signs of the Second Coming of Jesus

[kcnalp]

So what's the purpose of this life , take it you think it's a game.

I notice you avoided Scripture.

Jesus is God and Hell fire is eternal. That's what God of the Bible said. How do you figure that's a "game"?

I don't serve a God like that.

If you don't serve God of the Bible then you serve Satan.

God did chose certain people ,that's why they were found justified before the foundation of this world , they are the only ones without freewill.

Says Kingdom Hall?

Where may I ask do you think you were before being born? Do you feel you came into existence at birth?

Why don't you tell us if you know?

 

[Stumpmaster]

God did chose certain people ,that's why they were found justified before the foundation of this world , they are the only ones without freewill.

A misinterpretation of Divine Foreknowledge.

 

[n2thelight]

A misinterpretation of Divine Foreknowledge.

The below is misinterpreted how ?

Jeremiah 1:5 "Before I formed thee in the belly I know thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations."

In Isaiah 45:18; "For thus saith the Lord That created the heavens; God Himself That formed the earth and made it; He hath established it, He created it not in vain, He formed it to be inhabited: "I am the Lord; and there is none else." God did not create the earth void, but He created it to be inhabited. He did not create it "tohu va bohu"

Satan rebelled, and one third of the souls followed him in that rebellion, and God brought a close to that first earth age, and brought about man himself in this earth age of the flesh. Each soul now comes from God, and enters the embryo in the womb, and is born innocent of that first earth age. This flesh body is formed in the womb from the elements of the earth that the mother consumes from food she eats and it is developed into its final form at birth. In the flesh body, man (woman) then has the free will to descide for itself whether it would love God or Satan.

Man's body is made up from the clay of the earth, and upon death that physical body will decay right back into those elements that it came from. In the mother's womb, there is a clay vessel, that is made from the elements that came from the clay of the soul. Even in the meat we eat, comes from the greens that the animal ate that formed it's body. The body is an earthen vessel, but it is God that places the soul, the inner being into the child, and that is how God knew Jeremiah before Jeremiah was even placed in the womb of his mother.

Now let's give a second witness

Romans 9:11 "(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of Him That calleth;"

Then when the twins, Jacob and Esau were still in their mother's womb, neither having had the chance of doing either good or evil, God called one of those unborn babies to service. This deals with the election according to the purpose of God in His Will. The reason was to accomplish the writings of these Scriptures. It wasn't an accident that Jacob was loved and Esau was hated, nor was it an accident that you saw the light and repented. God has His hand on all creation and all of His children. God intercedes in the lives of His children, and there are no accidents when it comes to the actions of God.

 

[n2thelight]

I notice you avoided Scripture.

Not at all, just no time at the moment ,they coming

Jesus is God and Hell fire is eternal. That's what God of the Bible said. How do you figure that's a "game"?

When you say eternal do you mean suffer forever or cease to be ? Had to ask before my response

If you don't serve God of the Bible then you serve Satan.

Oh no question I serve my Father of the Bible ,the same scripture that you can't seem to understand

Says Kingdom Hall?

See my post # 123

Why don't you tell us if you know?

God created all souls at the same time , I know because of scripture

 

[Stumpmaster]

Jeremiah 1:5 "Before I formed thee in the belly I know thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations."

Yes, a good example of Divine Foreknowledge of the person before Divine Predestination of the person.

Cutting to the chase:

If God has sovereignly predetermined who will come to faith in Him by hearing His Word, is it possible for those whom He hasn't chosen to come to faith by hearing His Word to get a fair trial on Judgment Day?

 

[n2thelight]

Yes, a good example of Divine Foreknowledge of the person before Divine Predestination of the person.

Cutting to the chase:

If God has sovereignly predetermined who will come to faith in Him by hearing His Word, is it possible for those whom He hasn't chosen to come to faith by hearing His Word to get a fair trial on Judgment Day?

No! it's God knowing us before being born in flesh , which should tell you the reason why some are pre ordained ,and destined .

The answer to your question is yes ,as He wants all to be saved ,just don't think He knows which ones .

You must understand the 3 Earth Ages if you don't understand this , you're missing out on understanding His over all plan

 

[solway]

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MATTHEW 18:22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
MATTHEW 18:23 Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants.
EXODUS_17:7 And he called the name of the place Massah, and Meribah, because of the chiding of the children of Israel, and because they tempted the LORD, saying, Is the LORD among us, or not?
EXODUS 17:16 For he said, Because the LORD hath sworn [that] the LORD [will have] war with Amalek from generation to generation.
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Mark of the Beast 666 (JERUSALEM is Mentioned in Revelation)
Resurrected Body 200,000,000 (SODOM/EGYPT is Mentioned in Revelation)
New Temple Kingdom Stones 1000 (ASIA is Mentioned in Revelation)
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(God talked about Dead Flesh, how Humanities Dirth would spread, and cause genetic decay, and, blasphemy against the holy ghost, no hope for many people, in the Covenant of Canaan, which is "to forever"...........how they must die in the very least from the earth axis they occupy)
(God talked about a Covenant with Jacob, to build the pyramids, but also to become the sons of man in the new testament)
(God talked about a Covenant with David for a kingdom, "to forever", that would remain on earth, and god would answer for that on the last day)
(exceeding deaths in the unified field issue, the controversy of dead flesh, stated as the missing tribes but god specifically identified them in the controversy of revelation)

Everything is to be Resolved Soon

 

[kcnalp]

No! it's God knowing us before being born in flesh , which should tell you the reason why some are pre ordained ,and destined .

The answer to your question is yes ,as He wants all to be saved ,just don't think He knows which ones .

You must understand the 3 Earth Ages if you don't understand this , you're missing out on understanding His over all plan

God made all of us exactly as He chose to, knowing who would burn in Hell fire "forever and ever".

 

[n2thelight]

God made all of us exactly as He chose to, knowing who would burn in Hell fire "forever and ever".

So God made people that He knew He would kill ? Oh and no one will burn forever and ever , that's torture.

How do you reconcile that with the below

II Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

How does one not want anyone to perish yet made some to perish anyway ?Do you hear how absurd that sounds ?

 

[kcnalp]

So God made people that He knew He would kill?

I have to ask, have you ever read the Bible? Hell will be filled with people who don't believe in Hell.

1 Samuel 2:6 (NKJV)
6 "The LORD kills and makes alive;

Oh and no one will burn forever and ever , that's torture.

You don't believe the Bible? Or you've just never read it?

Revelation 20:10 (NKJV)
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

How do you reconcile that with the below

II Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

How does one not want anyone to perish yet made some to perish anyway ?Do you hear how absurd that sounds ?

So your God isn't omniscient? God of the Bible is.

Psalm 147:5 (NKJV)
5 Great is our Lord, and mighty in power; His understanding is infinite.

Kingdom Hall does not overrule God of the Bible.

 

[n2thelight]

I have to ask, have you ever read the Bible? Hell will be filled with people who don't believe in Hell.

1 Samuel 2:6 (NKJV)
6 "The LORD kills and makes alive;


You don't believe the Bible? Or you've just never read it?

Revelation 20:10 (NKJV)
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

So your God isn't omniscient? God of the Bible is.

Psalm 147:5 (NKJV)
5 Great is our Lord, and mighty in power; His understanding is infinite.

Kingdom Hall does not overrule God of the Bible.

You sure going all around the world , do you know what the verses mean that you quoted ,or do you take one verse and run with it , since that seems to be the case what does the below mean to you

Ezekiel 28:19
"All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more."

Thinking you should know the above is talking about satan , in any case , never be any more means what ?

As for your kingdom hall remarks, I don't do them!!!

 

[kcnalp]

You sure going all around the world , do you know what the verses mean that you quoted ,or do you take one verse and run with it , since that seems to be the case what does the below mean to you

It means what it says.

Ezekiel 28:19
"All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more."

OT does not overrule NT.

Thinking you should know the above is talking about satan , in any case , never be any more means what ?

It sure doesn't mean they "cease to exist".
Revelation 20:10 (NKJV)
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

As for your kingdom hall remarks, I don't do them!!!

That's a BIG plus for you! Hell will be filled with people who don't believe in Hell.

 

[Stumpmaster]

The answer to your question is yes ,as He wants all to be saved ,just don't think He knows which ones .

2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God stands sure, having this seal, The Lord knows them that are His. And, Let every one that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

 

[n2thelight]

It means what it says.

OT does not overrule NT.

It sure doesn't mean they "cease to exist".
Revelation 20:10 (NKJV)
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

That's a BIG plus for you! Hell will be filled with people who don't believe in Hell.

Don't think I said one over rules the other ,so what's your point ?

 

[kcnalp]

Don't think I said one over rules the other ,so what's your point ?

Revelation 20:10 (NKJV)
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

 

[n2thelight]

2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God stands sure, having this seal, The Lord knows them that are His. And, Let every one that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

The word SEAL in this verse is very important, study it...

 

[n2thelight]

Revelation 20:10 (NKJV)
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

It's all good, stay where you at ,but do know that the beast and the false prophet are the same as the devil .

You still giving me one verse

 

[kcnalp]

It's all good, stay where you at ,but do know that the beast and the false prophet are the same as the devil .

You still giving me one verse

The false prophet is the Devil? I don't think you have any proof. Even if that is true, the verse CLEARLY teaches "And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever."

 

[Stumpmaster]

It's all good, stay where you at ,but do know that the beast and the false prophet are the same as the devil .

And yet the Beast and the False Prophet are in a different place from the Devil while he is in the bottomless pit prior to being loosed and subsequently also cast into the Lake of Fire where they are.

Rev 20:1-3 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. (2) And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, (3) And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

I know who needs to do more study . . .

 

[solway]

"About the Signs of the Second Coming of Jesus"

1...Fatima 1917 (Jupiter) + 144 Years = 2061 Halley's Comet
2...Fatima 1917 + 77 of Lukes Genealogy = 1994 Jupiter Strike (153 Days from December Solstice of that Year)
3...Halley's Comet 2061 - 41 of Matthew's Genealogy = 12/21/2020 (jupiter closest in conjunction/solstice) (153 Days from the End of Flight 370 + 1290 and 1335)
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God has a Timetable, that is Cyclical for his Action, God isn't looking for an answer from humanity about when God is going to perform an action!

If God is not looking for a "when" to react, from humanity...............then God is looking for a "degree" of an action...........

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DANIEL 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words [are] closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
DANIEL 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

God does not do much of an action, very small degree, and humanity doesn't understand it will die in about 40 year in this statement!!! (the end of time happens, then humanity dies, not knowing it will die)
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Immediately after God says that, God says "1290+1335", BEGINS THE END OF TIME!
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God doesn't say that "2300 of Daniel" or "1260+1260" "Begins the End of Time".........God only says that for "1290+1335" for this measurement of Seven Years Only!!!!!!!!!!
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Harold Camping 5/21/2011, was a relatively correct answer, the Real answer, once again was "Sirius Alignment 2011" to Space Ship Oumuamua = 2300 Days, the Measurement was dispensation for the faithful, it was not stated to begin the end of time by God!!!!!!!! (very important fact)
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Galactic Center 12/21/2012, was also correct....and that produced "1260+1260" days to Covid-19/Spaceship Borisov, GOD DID NOT DESIGN OR DECLARE, THIS MEASUREMENT WOULD PRODUCE THE "END OF TIME" ALSO. (God only said the "gentiles would be given a curse, with this measurement").

Those Measurements are very Accurate...........There is another pass of a spaceship or.....the son of man's testimony is resolved, that would be around........5/15/2021, Once Again the Measurements Are Very Accurate in Days.
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In 1948 when Jerusalem declared its independence, it meant ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! God used Jerusalem to identify with his Cyclical Behavior in the Old Testament prior to the new temple body of jesus, (which completed the measurement of dead flesh/dirth, and finished that accusation of which mankind is accountable). Jerusalem actions, don't dictate god's actions, or define his cyclical behavior. (humanities dirth and dead flesh, in geographic groupings is another issue, of controvery's with the earth's field/rainbow). (God's timetable of action, is not a controversy).
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God says very clearly, his action is subtle, enough that humanity will not know it will die, 40 or so years before its death.............remember Nostradamus is not the Bible, in that a prophecy that is not a biblical prophecy, does not give favor to the body of believers, more then mankind..............the simple answer is, there is possibly a development to covid-19, we have not seen yet, that will take the world fascination.................this DYING WORLD AND ITS PEOPLE, will hope and pray expecting the return of jesus or a more articulant judgement but that will perhaps never happen, all of this is to be resolved soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(God has not reacted, so the events of covid-19, can be considered pre-tribulation, when God begins the "End of Time", and resolves the son of man testimony, immediately following the massive sudden deaths that is tribulation)

(regardless of that "Missing Flight 370", finishes everything, that expires in about 2 weeks..............if euthanasia by said developments of covid-19 increases incredibly, then a holocaust is a simple matter, so is world war, out of necessities)