About the Signs of the Second Coming of Jesus

[Ronald Nolette]

We Will Disagree, There isnt two resurrections separated by 1,000 years as you claim

It is not me you disagree with but Gods Word!

Revelation 20:

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

Do you need me to explain basic grammar and definitions of words for you to understand that in this passage, some are resurrected in verse 5 and then it says "THE REST OF THE DEAD LIVE NOT AGAIN UNTIL THE THOUSAND YEARS WERE FINISHED."

What part of that clear and unambiguous statement do you not understand?

1. Some are made alive, then the balance of teh dead wait until the 1,000 years are finished.

Once you can give an explanation for why Gods Word so disagrees with your opinion, I will gladly tell you why Ez. 46 cannot be Zerubabbels' temple.

 

[Truth7t7]

It is not me you disagree with but Gods Word!

Revelation 20:

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

Do you need me to explain basic grammar and definitions of words for you to understand that in this passage, some are resurrected in verse 5 and then it says "THE REST OF THE DEAD LIVE NOT AGAIN UNTIL THE THOUSAND YEARS WERE FINISHED."

What part of that clear and unambiguous statement do you not understand?

1. Some are made alive, then the balance of teh dead wait until the 1,000 years are finished.

Once you can give an explanation for why Gods Word so disagrees with your opinion, I will gladly tell you why Ez. 46 cannot be Zerubabbels' temple.

You have been clearly shown "several times" that Ezekiel 40-46 represents the 2nd Zerubbabel temple built in 536BC after the Babylonian Captivity, I will refrain from posting it again, we will disagree

You have been shown several times that the resurrection of all takes place on the last day, at the second coming of Jesus Jesus Christ, you deny the words (Then Cometh The End) before your eyes below as if they dont exist

Ron you disregard (Then Cometh The End) as you desire to see a mortal Millennial Kingdom on earth, after the coming of Jesus Christ

(Then Cometh The End) As (Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory)

afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, not a Millennial Kingdom on this earth as many falsely claim

(Then Cometh The End)

(Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory)

1 Corinthians 15:21-24 & 51-54KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

In perfect agreement with 1 Corinthians 15:23-24, the believer will be raised up, resurrected on the Last Day, (The End)

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

 

[Keraz]

Amos 9:13-15 The time is surely coming, says the Lord, when the one who plows shall overtake the one who reaps, and the treader of grapes, the one who sows the seed; the mountains shall drip sweet wine, all the hills shall flow with it. I will restore the fortunes of My people, Israel, and they shall rebuild the ruined cities and inhabit them; they shall plant vineyards and drink their wine, and they shall make gardens and eat their fruit. I will plant them upon their Land and they shall never again be plucked up out of the Land I have given them.


That scripture promises restoration for a devastated land and a scattered people and it does so in a beautiful description of overflowing fertility in field and vineyard along with an unqualified pledge of “never again” for His faithful people, from every tribe, race nation and language, Revelation 5:9-10, Isaiah 66:18b-21, to be dispossessed.

Bible prophecy refers to a divinely established Utopia (Greek- good place) in which, God puts an end to this world of injustice and unrighteousness on earth and replaces it with a world of justice and righteousness on earth.

This end times Kingdom is the covenantal kingdom, brought to its ultimate perfection and ideal consummation, here on earth. Hebrews 8:8-12 It will last for 1000 years, as Revelation 20 clearly informs us.

Daniel 7:27 The Kingly power, sovereignty and greatness of all the Kingdoms under heaven will be given to the Holy people of the Most High. Their Kingly power will last for ever and every realm will serve and obey them.


So, how will the God of justice and righteousness treat the Gentiles in establishing this utopian Kingdom on earth?

Micah 4:1-2 In days to come, the Lords House will tower above the hills. The nations will stream toward it, saying; Let us go to the House of Jacob’s God, that He may teach us His ways, for instruction comes from Zion. [and in Isaiah 2:2-4]

Zechariah 8:20 Nations and dwellers in many cities will come to Jerusalem to entreat the favor of the Lord.


Those warlike and idol worshipping peoples will be converted to godly worship, under a God of justice and peace. They will not become Israelites, but all will live together under God. This will be the situation after Jesus Returns, during His Millennium rule.

 

[Truth7t7]

This will be the situation after Jesus Returns, during His Millennium rule.

Your claim Jesus will literally rule "on this earth" is false, he warned his followers against this teaching, Jesus wont be found anywhere upon this earth as you claim

The Antichrist will be in Jerusalem, claiming to be Messiah Returned, "Beware"!

"Believe It Not" "Go Not Forth"

Matthew 24:23-27KJV
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Revelation 13:13-14KJV
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Revelation 19:20KJV
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Soryy Cl but there is nothing in the book of REvelation that shows God protecting some followers while not protecting others.

Yes there is.

Lukewarm christians vased on what is said in the letter are unbelievers (Christian in name only), they are spewed out of Jesus mouth.

Revelation 2 to Thyatira: RCC and Orthodox about worshiping Mary:
21 And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent. 22 Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds.

Revelation 3 to Philadelphia: Christians who are keepers of God's Word.
0 Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.

Luke 21:
36 Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.”

You may believe the Philadelphia church age are raptured, but just as the Israelites were kept safe during the plagues of Egypt while still IN Egypt, I believe we will be kept safe who now don't willfully sin.

As for no gentiles getting saved during teh GT, you are simply misapplying these verses.

I based my assumption on these verses together, that only Jews will be newly saved during the GT. Gentiles were given a strong delusion.

Romans 11:
25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved

2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

That can't include Israel because this is when their blindness is lifted. And when is that...when the fullness of the Gentiles comes into the Church. No more Gentiles.

Kind of a wasted trip.

No, not for the Gentile Christians being tested during the GT. The angel is warning them to not take the mark of the beast. Those who should take heed are Thyatira (RCC and Orthodox); Sardis (Calvinists and Lutherans and other protestants), and Laodecia (lukewarm Christians that are not ready)

 

[Keraz]

Your claim Jesus will literally rule "on this earth" is false, he warned his followers against this teaching, Jesus wont be found anywhere upon this earth as you claim

Your persistent and gross error, that denies the earthly reign of Jesus for the next Millennium, is refuted by Psalms 2:1-12
....... God will enthrone His Son on Zion, the holy mountain....the nations will be His domain and the earth His possession.

 

[Truth7t7]

Your persistent and gross error, that denies the earthly reign of Jesus for the next Millennium, is refuted by Psalms 2:1-12
....... God will enthrone His Son on Zion, the holy mountain....the nations will be His domain and the earth His possession.

Mount Sion, The Eternal New Jerusalem

Hebrews 12:22KJV
22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

 

[Truth7t7]

Revelation 2 to Thyatira: RCC and Orthodox about worshiping Mary:
21 And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent. 22 Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds.

Revelation 3 to Philadelphia: Christians who are keepers of God's Word.
0 Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.

Luke 21:
36 Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.”

You may believe the Philadelphia church age are raptured, but just as the Israelites were kept safe during the plagues of Egypt while still IN Egypt, I believe we will be kept safe who now don't willfully sin.



I based my assumption on these verses together, that only Jews will be newly saved during the GT. Gentiles were given a strong delusion.

Romans 11:
25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved

2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

That can't include Israel because this is when their blindness is lifted. And when is that...when the fullness of the Gentiles comes into the Church. No more Gentiles.



No, not for the Gentile Christians being tested during the GT. The angel is warning them to not take the mark of the beast. Those who should take heed are Thyatira (RCC and Orthodox); Sardis (Calvinists and Lutherans and other protestants), and Laodecia (lukewarm Christians that are not ready)

There's Going To Be An End Times Persecution, The Beast And His Kingdom Are The Target Of God's Empowered (Two Witnesses)

The Great Tribulation Will Come Upon The Wicked World, While The (Sealed Church) Is Protected

The (Sealed Church) will be present on earth and protected, when wicked men are tormented 5 months, desiring to die as death flees

All saved believers are (Sealed) by God, Eph 1:13, 4:30

Ephesians 1:13KJV
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Ephesians 4:30KJV
30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

It Was Commanded, Only Those Without God's Seal, The Sealed Church Is Protected

Revelation 9:3-6KJV
3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

Plagues upon The Beast and his Kingdom, a remake of Moses/Aaron against Pharaoh of Egypt

Revelation 11:3-6
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

Revelation 16:1-11KJV
1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.
3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.
4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood.
5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.
6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.
7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.
8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,
11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.

 

[Keraz]

Hebrews 12:22KJV
22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

Paul is telling us about our present Spiritual situation.
Faithful Christians are made citizens of heaven, by the fact of their names being Written in the Book of Life. But we never go there to live. After the Millennium, the New Jerusalem comes down to us. Revelation 21:1
Could you explain why you are so adamant to not have a 1000 year reign of King Jesus?

Who will be 'sealed' - protected from the Great Tribulation?
Daniel 11:32 describes the two divisions of the Christians. Revelation 12:14 and 17 shows where each group will be during the GT.

 

[Truth7t7]

Could you explain why you are so adamant to not have a 1000 year reign of King Jesus?

A Millennial Kingdom Where Jesus Rules On This Earth, Is Found No Place In Scipture, A False Teaching Preparing The Way For The Future Walk On Antichrist

Millennialist start the conversation in Revelation 20:1-6 using the words 1,000 years, then drag the unsuspecting off to the old testament, to claim the Kingdom seen pertains to Rev 20:1-6, as pinocchio's nose continues to grow

Keraz can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)?

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ?

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time?

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

[Truth7t7]

Could you explain why you are so adamant to not have a 1000 year reign of King Jesus?

Your claim Jesus will literally rule "On This Earth" is false, he warned his followers against this teaching, Jesus wont be found anywhere upon this earth as you and many claim

The Antichrist will be in Jerusalem, claiming to be Messiah Returned, "Beware"!

"Believe It Not" "Go Not Forth"

Matthew 24:23-27KJV
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Revelation 13:13-14KJV
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Revelation 19:20KJV
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

You have been clearly shown "several times" that Ezekiel 40-46 represents the 2nd Zerubbabel temple built in 536BC after the Babylonian Captivity, I will refrain from posting it again, we will disagree

You have been shown several times that the resurrection of all takes place on the last day, at the second coming of Jesus Jesus Christ, you deny the words (Then Cometh The End) before your eyes below as if they dont exist

Ron you disregard (Then Cometh The End) as you desire to see a mortal Millennial Kingdom on earth, after the coming of Jesus Christ

(Then Cometh The End) As (Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory)

afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, not a Millennial Kingdom on this earth as many falsely claim

(Then Cometh The End)

(Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory)

1 Corinthians 15:21-24 & 51-54KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

In perfect agreement with 1 Corinthians 15:23-24, the believer will be raised up, resurrected on the Last Day, (The End)

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Well Lying is not something that looks good on an alleged messenger from god as you self declared.

YOu have shown no proof that the Ezekiel prophecy is Zerubbabel's' temple- you have just simply said so. You even said you need no proof for you have scripture, but yet Scripture tells a different story for the temple.

As you are arrogant and not one willing to answer questions and ignore clear unambiguous bible verses, this will be my last post to you. YOu may have the last post if you wish, but you are at best disingenuous, at worst sinister. I will give you but a few of teh many verses of Scripture showing why the temple descriobed in Ez. 40-46 can never have been Zerubbabels' temple.

1
Ezekiel 43
King James Version

43 Afterward he brought me to the gate, even the gate that looketh toward the east:

2 And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east: and his voice was like a noise of many waters: and the earth shined with his glory.

3 And it was according to the appearance of the vision which I saw, even according to the vision that I saw when I came to destroy the city: and the visions were like the vision that I saw by the river Chebar; and I fell upon my face.

4 And the glory of the Lord came into the house by the way of the gate whose prospect is toward the east.

5 So the spirit took me up, and brought me into the inner court; and, behold, the glory of the Lord filled the house.

6 And I heard him speaking unto me out of the house; and the man stood by me.

7 And he said unto me, Son of man, the place of my throne, and the place of the soles of my feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel for ever, and my holy name, shall the house of Israel no more defile, neither they, nor their kings, by their whoredom, nor by the carcases of their kings in their high places.


The glory of the Lord is never recorded as entering Zerubbabels temple forever.
Israel defiled the temple since this time frame. God said they will no more derfile. You are wrong.

2:

Ezekiel 44:10-14
King James Version

10 And the Levites that are gone away far from me, when Israel went astray, which went astray away from me after their idols; they shall even bear their iniquity.

11 Yet they shall be ministers in my sanctuary, having charge at the gates of the house, and ministering to the house: they shall slay the burnt offering and the sacrifice for the people, and they shall stand before them to minister unto them.

12 Because they ministered unto them before their idols, and caused the house of Israel to fall into iniquity; therefore have I lifted up mine hand against them, saith the Lord God, and they shall bear their iniquity.

13 And they shall not come near unto me, to do the office of a priest unto me, nor to come near to any of my holy things, in the most holy place: but they shall bear their shame, and their abominations which they have committed.

14 But I will make them keepers of the charge of the house, for all the service thereof, and for all that shall be done therein.


Levites offered sacrifices in the Zerubbabel/herodian temple until its destruction. you are wrong again.

3.

Ezekiel 44:15-18
King James Version

15 But the priests the Levites, the sons of Zadok, that kept the charge of my sanctuary when the children of Israel went astray from me, they shall come near to me to minister unto me, and they shall stand before me to offer unto me the fat and the blood, saith the Lord God:

16 They shall enter into my sanctuary, and they shall come near to my table, to minister unto me, and they shall keep my charge.

17 And it shall come to pass, that when they enter in at the gates of the inner court, they shall be clothed with linen garments; and no wool shall come upon them, whiles they minister in the gates of the inner court, and within.

18 They shall have linen bonnets upon their heads, and shall have linen breeches upon their loins; they shall not gird themselves with any thing that causeth sweat.


The children of Zadok are the ancestors of the first high priest of Solomons temple and NOT Levites. they have not offered any sacrifices yet. You are wrong again.

Also in the Zerubbabel Temple- only the high priest could go into the holy of holies, in the ezekiel temple, the sons of zadok will be able to enter. You are wrong again.

also thr0ough out this six chapters, ther eis the sacrificial system that is different than the system in the solomonic and zerubbabelian temples. You are wrong again!

Also the zadok priests have a dress code the levites did not have. You are wrong again!

Ezekiel 45
King James Version

45 Moreover, when ye shall divide by lot the land for inheritance, ye shall offer an oblation unto the Lord, an holy portion of the land: the length shall be the length of five and twenty thousand reeds, and the breadth shall be ten thousand. This shall be holy in all the borders thereof round about.

2 Of this there shall be for the sanctuary five hundred in length, with five hundred in breadth, square round about; and fifty cubits round about for the suburbs thereof.

3 And of this measure shalt thou measure the length of five and twenty thousand, and the breadth of ten thousand: and in it shall be the sanctuary and the most holy place.

4 The holy portion of the land shall be for the priests the ministers of the sanctuary, which shall come near to minister unto the Lord: and it shall be a place for their houses, and an holy place for the sanctuary.

5 And the five and twenty thousand of length, and the ten thousand of breadth shall also the Levites, the ministers of the house, have for themselves, for a possession for twenty chambers.

This never took place in the second or Zerubbabelian temple. YOu are wrong again.

I could also talk about teh prince in chapters 45 and 46, but you have shown yourself incapapble of serious bible study- just a mime saying "I said so".

Lastly your refusal to even comment on REv. 20 and the 1,000 year time difference between resurrections is very telling. You are wrapped in intellectual pride and refuse to recognize that your position could be wrong. Remember: Pride goeth before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall.

You may have the last post. I will not respond unless you are willing to be teachable.

 

[Oseas]

The list below concerns the events of JESUS's coming, and of the END of this current evil world, and these events are already running according Scriptures literally. - THE WORD IS GOD -


The Word of GOD has Power to shut heaven that it rain not in these days of this prophecy (there will not be salvation of souls, no, no more) and have also Power over waters to turn them to blood (waters are peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues),
and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will -(earth here is Israel, the clay, the dry land, where is placed the great city called Sodom and Egypt-Revelation 11:v.8- where also our Lord was crucified.)



Here goes the list

JESUS was sat upon the mount of Olives. The disciples came unto Him and asked Him:

1 - What shall be the sign of thy coming?

2 - and the sign of the END of the world?
See; the list below is exclusive of future events listed by JESUS in his time, it concerns:

(1) the signs of his coming,

(2) and of the END of the (current and evil) world.
Here goes the answers of JESUS to the questions made by His disciples:

1 - Take heed that no man deceive you;
2 - For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many;

3 - ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars; see that ye be not troubled
4 - all these things must come to pass; but the END (of the evil world) is not yet;.

5 - nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom;

6 - and there shall be famines;

7 - and pestilences; (this is already fulfilling LITERALLY)

8 - and earthquakes in divers places, all these are the beginning of sorrows.

9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of ALL NATIONS for my name's sake. (Check it ou in Rev.11:v.18)

10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. (false christians/apostasy/etc.)

11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.


CONCERNING ISRAEL

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand). (Holy place is the temple of God in the great city of Jerusalem where a false God will sit as God)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. (Terrible)

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. (There come a false messiah soon)

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

The list below concerns the events of JESUS's coming, and of the END of this current evil world, and these events are already running according Scriptures, and literally. - THE WORD IS GOD -

25 Behold, I have told you before.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Revelation 2 to Thyatira: RCC and Orthodox about worshiping Mary:
21 And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent. 22 Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds.

Revelation 3 to Philadelphia: Christians who are keepers of God's Word.
0 Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.

Luke 21:
36 Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.”

You may believe the Philadelphia church age are raptured, but just as the Israelites were kept safe during the plagues of Egypt while still IN Egypt, I believe we will be kept safe who now don't willfully sin.



I based my assumption on these verses together, that only Jews will be newly saved during the GT. Gentiles were given a strong delusion.

Romans 11:
25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved

2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

That can't include Israel because this is when their blindness is lifted. And when is that...when the fullness of the Gentiles comes into the Church. No more Gentiles.



No, not for the Gentile Christians being tested during the GT. The angel is warning them to not take the mark of the beast. Those who should take heed are Thyatira (RCC and Orthodox); Sardis (Calvinists and Lutherans and other protestants), and Laodecia (lukewarm Christians that are not ready)

Well I can't argue with you. You are spouting opinions and allegorical reinterpretations and establishing timelines based on what you feel and see. I can only tell you scripture and you put in SCripture then reinterpret it to suit your ideology.

But you do not believe in ternal security, the rapture and that gentiles will be blinded by the mid point of the trib.

Tehj bible declares 2/3 of all Israel will be killed in the trib time and the 1/3 at the end not the mid point will call upon the Lord thus causing the Lord to return to earth. That is the bible and that is what I stand for. You can have your hybrid, I just can't argue your opinions.

 

[CharismaticLady]

There's Going To Be An End Times Persecution, The Beast And His Kingdom Are The Target Of God's Empowered (Two Witnesses)

The Great Tribulation Will Come Upon The Wicked World, While The (Sealed Church) Is Protected

The (Sealed Church) will be present on earth and protected, when wicked men are tormented 5 months, desiring to die as death flees

All saved believers are (Sealed) by God, Eph 1:13, 4:30

Ephesians 1:13KJV
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Ephesians 4:30KJV
30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

It Was Commanded, Only Those Without God's Seal, The Sealed Church Is Protected

Revelation 9:3-6KJV
3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

Plagues upon The Beast and his Kingdom, a remake of Moses/Aaron against Pharaoh of Egypt

Revelation 11:3-6
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

Revelation 16:1-11KJV
1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.
3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.
4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood.
5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.
6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.
7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.
8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,
11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.

Yes, those who are the Philadelphian type of Christian, who KEEP the commandments of God, and HAVE the testimony of Jesus Christ in them will be safe. I agree. They are sealed, because they are TRUE Christians. But not every person who SAYS they are a Christian, really are abiding in Christ, and He in them; therefore, ARE NOT SEALED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT.

They will go into the Great Tribulation needing to wash their robes in the blood of the Lamb. They are not overcomers so must go through tribulation and overcome their apathy. The key there is they already have robes, but they are not washed. The wicked are naked. This is why it is so important to not be a lukewarm Christian, those in name only, but do not keep His commandments nor have the fruit of the Spirit.

Another large group of unprotected Christians are those who worship Jezebel and are those from the Thyatira church age. Jezebel represents the Babylonian mystery religion. Every country has been infected with this abomination. They all have a goddess and godchild. Like Isis and Horus, or Venus and Cupid. The Roman church has venerated Mary into the status of this goddess, even calling her the queen of heaven, a title given to pagan goddesses. Everything else that the RCC and Orthodox churches do is pleasing to God, like baptisms, and sacraments. But this one major thing is the reason that those who pray to Mary and bow down to her statues will not be protected during the Great Tribulation, but must overcome.

 

[CharismaticLady]

gentiles will be blinded by the mid point of the trib.

No, the beginning. The last 7 years are dedicated to Israel to come into the Church. But there are protected and unprotected Christians that go into the GT. You believe they will be raptured, but I haven't seen your proof. How will anyone "endure to the end," and "are alive and remain" if they are already raptured at the beginning of the GT? And with a strong delusion on them, who is it that will become a Christian during that time besides national Israel that is clearly spoken of in Scripture?

 

[Truth7t7]

Yes, those who are the Philadelphian type of Christian, who KEEP the commandments of God, and HAVE the testimony of Jesus Christ in them will be safe. I agree. They are sealed, because they are TRUE Christians. But not every person who SAYS they are a Christian, really are abiding in Christ, and He in them; therefore, ARE NOT SEALED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT.

They will go into the Great Tribulation needing to wash their robes in the blood of the Lamb. They are not overcomers so must go through tribulation and overcome their apathy. The key there is they already have robes, but they are not washed. The wicked are naked. This is why it is so important to not be a lukewarm Christian, those in name only, but do not keep His commandments nor have the fruit of the Spirit.

Another large group of unprotected Christians are those who worship Jezebel and are those from the Thyatira church age. Jezebel represents the Babylonian mystery religion. Every country has been infected with this abomination. They all have a goddess and godchild. Like Isis and Horus, or Venus and Cupid. The Roman church has venerated Mary into the status of this goddess, even calling her the queen of heaven, a title given to pagan goddesses. Everything else that the RCC and Orthodox churches do is pleasing to God, like baptisms, and sacraments. But this one major thing is the reason that those who pray to Mary and bow down to her statues will not be protected during the Great Tribulation, but must overcome.

I disagree with your suggesting a person "Isnt" a sealed believer if they break a commandment, this not being a prerequisite for salvation

Keeping the 10 commandments come with the reward of being great in the Kingdom, but there is no exclusion from being saved and sealed as you surrest

 

[CharismaticLady]

I disagree with your suggesting a person "Isnt" a sealed believer if they break a commandment, this not being a prerequisite for salvation

Keeping the 10 commandments come with the reward of being great in the Kingdom, but there is no exclusion from being saved and sealed as you surrest

Go ahead and break all the commandments you want and see if God will answer any of your prayers, except with a big fat NO. 1 John 3:22

 

[Oseas]

Romans 11:
25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved

Yes, all Israel that believed in JESUS, these only are ALL Israel, the unbelievers will be cast into the great winepress of the wrath of God.


Revelation 14:v. 17 to 20

17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth (Israel); for her grapes are fully ripe.

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth(Israel), and gathered the vine of the earth(Israel), and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?


20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.


Romans 9:v.20 to 23

20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

 

[CharismaticLady]

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth (Israel); for her grapes are fully ripe.

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth(Israel), and gathered the vine of the earth(Israel), and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

What is the basis for your insertion that this is referring to Israel?