new version of OSAS?
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Too many here will be too busy patting themselves on the back for their Delusional “ Goodness” on Judgement Day than to be falling at Jesus’ feet come .....Those that don’t have this mind- set of worshipping Him now—— what makes them think that they will have itvkn the Day That it counts....that Attitude might just count for everything.....it reveals a lot!
Personally speaking.....if there is a line to get in to fall on their face to worship Him—- get out of my way......it may be a Sin to “ jump the line”, but I don’t care—- just stay out of my way....If you lack that eagerness to fall at the feet of Jesus, there is something wrong with your “ Christianity” .....you may not even “ be” a Christian....what will be your first desire when you meet Jesus? Run? Boast? You had better give it some thought....
We are to separate ourselves from these so called brothers .... But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. (1Co 5:11)
I guess going out together to have a beer with you is out if the question then? Darn the Bad Luck....I bet you would be a ball to “ hang out’ with!
I guess going out together to have a beer with you is out if the question then? Darn the Bad Luck....I bet you would be a ball to “ hang out’ with!
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AT HIS FEET is where I live... It is where I operate from... Praise and Worship are my weapons. Sadly... people do not understand the POWER of Worshipping in Spirit and Truth.... It is the MOST AMAZING thing.... To think that we are given PERMISSION to BOLDLY enter the THRONE ROOM... I can't wrap my brain around that thought... that little old me... is invited to partake in such a thing. I miss corporate Worship.
You need your own Youtube channel... OH my goodness.. you crack me up.
The Resurrected Jesus gave us just Two Commandments....#1 Believe. #2 Love I got them both covered, although it gets harder and harder to “ Love” Legalists and Religionists...
I anger more people here than I supply laughs to I’m afraid...... actually it makes me similar to Jesus....Religious people hated “Him” too....Remember That , all you religionists out there striving to be “ Christ Like” ..... Jesus was also a Friend to Sinners—— I got that going for me too....I can’t walk on Water on yet, but I “ DO” like to take naps on boats during storms...There is NEVER a time not fitting for a good nap!
Well, for one thing, it would completely violate Scripture for the born again to become unborn again. So before trying to go through any mental gymnastics to figure out how that could or couldn't happen, the matter is settled for us without even needing that.
If we stay with what the Bible says, these things are clear. When someone has to change what the Bible says in order to reconcile it to their view, then obviously their view is not what the Bible says.
Much love!
I believe you are wrong about the walking on water. I believe that everyone has really believed has walked on water. [I speak of the filth of the ways of man when we are in the Spirit and following the Spirit, then we are walking right up on top of them rather that sinking down into them.]
As to the naps, I don't want to be envious, but I would love to be able to sleep whenever I was tired. Being retire now for over 20 years from secular work I have the time, but my body will so seldom cooperate. But... don't allow my woes to interrupt your enjoyment of a good snooze time...LOL
Give God the glory!
Your "types" are arbitrary in my view. I prefer to focus on what the Bible says then these silly distinctions which are meant to blur the lines and not clarify.
If you want to talk in Scriptural terms about Scriptural concepts maybe we can put some of this silliness behind us. There's nothing silly about misrepresenting God, and Biblical doctrine dancing around in these silly dances in you made up distinctives.
So in looking at what the Bible says, God keeps His people by His Own power. That's how He puts it. From all that you've written, you obviously think that must be more silliness, since you think that won't matter, if you do or don't do whatever it is you think you do or don't do.
Much love!
You add them to the verses you can't reconcile.
You are not fooling me.
Much love!
More ad hominem?
You won't address the passages I post, but you post this rubbish instead. Revealing!
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There is the second death What Is The Second death? - The Deadly Effects of 2nd Death and there is nothing to stop us turning away from God like the chosen people.
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Just the same . . . "now we are the children of God . . . when we see Him, we will be like Him, for we will see Him as He is."
This is inclusive and certain. If you are His child now, you will become like Jesus then. You just will. God sees to it. Predestination. Don't think you can overturn what He has predestined to be.
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It doesn't mean we have carte blanche to do as we like, we are meant to separate ourselves from wordly things, but I do like your faith.
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I get so frustrated with this constant accusation that flies .... WHO EXACTLY is expressing CARTE BLANCHE to do as they like??? Where does this untrue... unfair... and cruel accusation come from??? It enters absolutely every conversation the legalists use... GIVE IT A BREAK.... NO ONE is condoning sin... not BB... not His Life... Not Marks... and not ME. It's as if those who think they have to BE GOOD and DO GOOD.... have blinded vision or something... CAN YOU READ THIS???...... SIN IS BAD.... all of IT... NONE of it is getting into heaven....CHRIST IS OUR complete ATONEMENT!!!!
The difference between those who believe in SECURITY of SALVATION and those who think they have something remotely valuable to ADD to the ATONEMENT of CHRIST ( which is a mockery in severest form )... is the condition of the heart... and the knowledge of where we stand on the food chain of life.... WE are nothing... have done nothing... can do nothing... It's ALL CHRIST.... HE did it all... He is the REASON and ONLY REASON that we are able to ANTICIPATE the JOY of Heaven.
WE focus on CHRIST.... and the more we focus on Christ... the more we understand His Word... and the more we understand His Word and His promises over us.... the more we have to be thankful for.... WE serve from our hearts... and out of LOVE.... The legalists serve from the position of insecurity and fear.... and that is the problem. It is very visible in the fruit... The legalistic Christian is stern... judgemental of others and very negative....Always focusing on sin.... NO THANKS.... I would much prefer to believe in the promises that state... I am SAVED by the BLOOD OF THE LAMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No ands... ifs... or buts.... It is because of HIM... that I am in this position.... My job is to love and worship Him... to live my life as a living testimony to His goodness.
I have never come across a Christian that looks at sin loosely and carelessly as is being SUGGESTED non stop in this thread... It is a DISGUSTING accusation... and it is FALSE.
Surely you all can come to the table with something of substance.
The difference between those who believe in SECURITY of SALVATION and those who think they have something remotely valuable to ADD to the ATONEMENT of CHRIST ( which is a mockery in severest form )... is the condition of the heart... and the knowledge of where we stand on the food chain of life.... WE are nothing... have done nothing... can do nothing... It's ALL CHRIST.... HE did it all... He is the REASON and ONLY REASON that we are able to ANTICIPATE the JOY of Heaven.
WE focus on CHRIST.... and the more we focus on Christ... the more we understand His Word... and the more we understand His Word and His promises over us.... the more we have to be thankful for.... WE serve from our hearts... and out of LOVE.... The legalists serve from the position of insecurity and fear.... and that is the problem. It is very visible in the fruit... The legalistic Christian is stern... judgemental of others and very negative....Always focusing on sin.... NO THANKS.... I would much prefer to believe in the promises that state... I am SAVED by the BLOOD OF THE LAMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No ands... ifs... or buts.... It is because of HIM... that I am in this position.... My job is to love and worship Him... to live my life as a living testimony to His goodness.
I have never come across a Christian that looks at sin loosely and carelessly as is being SUGGESTED non stop in this thread... It is a DISGUSTING accusation... and it is FALSE.
Surely you all can come to the table with something of substance.
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Ferris Bueller
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This thread is about the original Osas from the 1500's, and the new Osas. The original Osas taught that if you really are saved you will never stop believing and you will never go back to your old life of sin. If you do you are showing yourself to have never been born again in the first place. The new Osas teaches you can go back to your old life of sin in complete unbelief and you are still saved. BB uses 1 Corinthians 6:12 to prove that you can go back to the willful sin of your old life in unbelief, as bad as that is, and you remain saved.
Ferris Bueller
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Maybe you remember when the Holy Spirit would come down on a congregation in a praise and worship service. I think those days are gone. I don't think even the charismatics have those kinds of praise and worship services anymore.
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