Another Brick in the Wall

[Looking4Me]

i love you

I love you too, can I have 100 dollars

 

[post]

I love you too, can I have 100 dollars

sure why not

what are you going to do with it?

 

[Looking4Me]

sure why not

what are you going to do with it?

Buy 100 stink lizards.

 

[Emily Nghiem]

in Hebrews 1 it is plain that God calls the Son, "God"

unbelieving pharisees delivered Him to death on the charge of blasphemy, because anyone and everyone understood by what He did and said that He was presenting Himself as equal to & identical to God. they refused to believe Him.
modern 'so-called-christians' are no different, rejecting the word of God in favor of youtube, and will die in their sins for their unbelief. see John 8.

God didn't stutter.

i am sorry to have come here and learned of your damnation, Mssr. Wrangler, and seen some of the damage you attempt to do to people of The Faith.
but you must listen to me, to the the scripture, if you would have life. you don't have a whole lot of time left: time is mercy from God, with the intention that you repent and believe.

My understanding of this passage is that
it should read as
O god
meaning
O Judge or O Lord

There is only One God the Father
and only One Jesus Christ the Son
Of course all three manifestations or roles
Are all 100% God and not human.

Jesus is a distinct role or aspect of God, where Jesus is the governing Authority of God's Justice/Law/Word.

Thus it makes sense in this context
to address Jesus as Lord/god/Judge
in relation to the Throne.

All three are one, but that doesn't mean
they are the same interchangeably.

Jesus wasn't in heaven sending the Father to man on earth to be sacrificed to bring redemption and salvation.

The Father sent the Son

Two distinct roles, where the Father is greater than ALL while the Son and Father are One (not the same).

The husband and wife are one but not the same.

 

[Emily Nghiem]

There are many governments:

1. Local
2. State
3. Federal
4. International

And there are many gods, lords and laws.

Jesus as Lord of lords is the Authority of Law and Justice over all.

The difference is symbolized in the Cross, where Jesus is in the center.

For spiritual laws joining man and God, Christ Jesus is in the middle as the Mediator Reconciling man with God by Grace.
That is the vertical bar of the Cross.

For natural laws governing man, Jesus governs our relations between neighbors under man's laws and justice.
That is the horizontal bar.
Jesus is in the middle as well.

The Father God/Son Jesus and Holy Spirit
Refers to the relationship between God connecting with man (through Christ Jesus reconciling us with God).

While man's laws, that Jesus fulfills as justice in our world, are the connection between man and man.

 

[post]

Buy 100 stink lizards.

Dude I have an hundred lizards in my backyard; let's cut out the middle man

I'll smell one tomorrow and let you know

 

[Emily Nghiem]

I'm very iffy on the whole karma thing. Very iffy.

I'm sure you have your own terms
and ways of understanding:
Laws of karma
Cause and effect
Poetic justice
Law of attraction
What you reap you sow
What comes around goes around
You get the justice you give
You live by the sword you die by the sword
The Golden Rule (which is found in
every world religion)

Pick one @Looking4Me
and tell me they aren't all referring to the same natural law.

Or look these all up.
And let me know what you think.
Which one comes closest to how you would say it. So at least we know how to communicate with each other.

Same principles, just different expressions.

Religions are different languages for the laws.
What matters is the spiritual process
Or universal truth they are referring to.
So we can help walk and talk each other
through the process and enjoy
The journey together!

Bless you, be well, and may the highest wisdom and richest wealth of knowledge
And liberating insights be yours to treasure!

 

[Emily Nghiem]

1 ≠ 3.
1 = 1 (line)
1 x 1 = 1^2 (square)
1 x 1 x 1 = 1^3 (cube)
1 x 1 x 1 x 1 = 1^4 (cube changing over time)

I do understand math and how to measure. Jesus is not God. The trinity is not in the Bible. Your mind is darkened to Jesus' own words. The only God is Jesus' God.

I, the Eternal One, am your God and there is no other.
Joel 2:27

Dear @Wrangler @post
I can have the same discussions and differences with you, yet the main difference is I don't judge or dismiss either of you for it.

I can agree and disagree with you @Wrangler, the same way @post does, and still trust we share the same faith and the differences between us are in how we express the different manifestations of the ONE God

I can agree and disagree with @post ,
the same way @Wrangler does,
yet you two denounce and blame the other
for those same differences and agreements
i have with both of you, but do not find
fault with you and understand God has us
think and see and say this in different ways.

The main difference is I forgive these differences and don't let them affect the
faith I have we are still talking about the
SAME God the Father, Jesus the Son, and
the Holy Spirit.

I hope you will be at peace with each other
as I am with you.

As for one giving up on communicating.
I thought as believers we should continue
Praying and resolving this in Christ.

I thought only unbelievers can ask a Believer to part company.

But if both people are fellow Believers,
we do not denounce or dismiss the other.
We follow Matthew 18:15-20 and ask
another Witness to help establish the truth
In Christ Jesus.

I already pointed out John 10:29-30

And I agree with @Wrangler
The Bible only says
*The Father, Son and Holy Spirit
(Not the "Trinity")
*there are three that bear witness
(the water, the blood and the spirit
NOT "the Trinity")
* the Two Great Commandments
and the New Great Commandment
in John 13:34
(Not requiring anyone to recite
the "Trinity" which confuses people
who don't receive God that way)

@post I ask you not to test people
like @Wrangler this way, which is cruel
and unjust. It is like showing numbers in
Red and Green to a color blind person
then mocking him if he cannot read
what you see that appear obvious.

I have run into this over and over
with people who simply do not see
God in the way you describe.

It is not the fault of his faith.

The fault I see is if you do not forgive
each other, you do not receive each other.

What we neglect to do unto each other,
we neglect to do unto the Lord.

I pray you forgive and receive each other
that we may receive Jesus into
our relations, and in receiving the Son,
We receive the Father. In Jesus' name Amen.

 

[Looking4Me]

I'm sure you have your own terms
and ways of understanding:
Laws of karma
Cause and effect
Poetic justice
Law of attraction
What you reap you sow
What comes around goes around
You get the justice you give
You live by the sword you die by the sword
The Golden Rule (which is found in
every world religion)

Pick one @Looking4Me
and tell me they aren't all referring to the same natural law.

Or look these all up.
And let me know what you think.
Which one comes closest to how you would say it. So at least we know how to communicate with each other.

Same principles, just different expressions.

Religions are different languages for the laws.
What matters is the spiritual process
Or universal truth they are referring to.
So we can help walk and talk each other
through the process and enjoy
The journey together!

Bless you, be well, and may the highest wisdom and richest wealth of knowledge
And liberating insights be yours to treasure!

I guess I was wrong in a way.

I'm sure you have your own terms
and ways of understanding:
Laws of karma
Cause and effect
Poetic justice
Law of attraction
What you reap you sow
What comes around goes around
You get the justice you give
You live by the sword you die by the sword
The Golden Rule (which is found in
every world religion)

Pick one @Looking4Me
and tell me they aren't all referring to the same natural law.

Or look these all up.
And let me know what you think.
Which one comes closest to how you would say it. So at least we know how to communicate with each other.

Same principles, just different expressions.

Religions are different languages for the laws.
What matters is the spiritual process
Or universal truth they are referring to.
So we can help walk and talk each other
through the process and enjoy
The journey together!

Bless you, be well, and may the highest wisdom and richest wealth of knowledge
And liberating insights be yours to treasure!

How are they all the same principles? Like the law of attraction and poetic justice.

 

[Marc RL Ministry]

I thought Jesus said "I call you friends" Is that correct?

Jesus Christ called the people doing the will of his Father, His Brother, Sister and Mother, Jesus Christ also called people his Friend, Daughter and his Disciple etc.

 

[Looking4Me]

 

[Looking4Me]

All in all, you're just another belief in the wall.

 

[Looking4Me]

Jesus Christ called the people doing the will of his Father, His Brother, Sister and Mother, Jesus Christ also called people his Friend, Daughter and his Disciple etc.

You know in the Bible how it says Jesus was taken up into a cloud? Do you think that now I could download him from the cloud?

 

[Curtis]

I know. But what do you think I can do about my seperation from God? Is there anything I can actually do myself for God to rescue me from destruction? Because the way I see it, I can't do anything apart from him. So I wait.

You can seek God and find Him, says the Lord:

Jer 29:11 For I know the plans that I have for you,' declares the LORD, 'plans for well-being, and not for calamity, in order to give you a future and a hope.

Jer 29:12 When you call out to me and come and pray to me, I'll hear you.

Jer 29:13 You will seek me and find me when you search for me with all your heart.

And Romans 10:13 whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

 

[Curtis]

You know in the Bible how it says Jesus was taken up into a cloud? Do you think that now I could download him from the cloud?

Jesus is easy to download. He lives in our hearts by faith. Eph 3:17

He’s standing at the door of your heart knocking, waiting for you to open the door and ask Him in.
Revelation 3:20.

The prayer I downloaded Him in to my heart was: Lord Jesus, I believe you died for our sins and rose from the dead - please come into my heart, forgive my sins, save my soul, and make me a new creation. Amen.

 

[Taken]

i don't think God referring to Himself with a plural noun & singular verb is indicative of or a result of His holding many titles.
in fact i think that's almost incomprehensibly poor logic.

do you think it was a surprise to the angels?
i.e. did the angels ((who were clearly a witness to these things)) know that He has for example seven spirits before He said Adam has become like one of Us?
were they shocked? was this the beginning of the unveiling of a great mystery?
do you think Satan is omniscient?
so did Satan know who Jesus is, when he tested Him?
i am thinking, no way. Satan would not have tried these cheap tricks if he knew Who he was dealing with. Satan thought Jesus is only a man.
a lot of people today still think like Satan did -- only i think Satan figured it out, when he ((inside Judas)) was flattened by Christ saying I AM in the garden - and made Judas try to stop the crucifixion. so it's more precise to say, a lot of people today still think like Satan used to think.

The difference between created angels and created mankind, is angels were created holy, with great knowledge, with power.
Mankind was created good.
Both created with freewill of Choice.
Angels who fall from holiness, have no option to regain their holiness.
Man falls from goodness, and has an option to be MADE holy...(or not).

Aside from "KNOWING", knowledge...
There is the aspect of "understanding" the knowledge.
God is all knowing. Gods all knowing includes
all "understanding".
God freely gives much of His knowledge to that which IS holy, and that which DESIRES to be MADE holy.
God freely gives His understanding to that which IS holy, MADE holy, who seeks His understanding. <--- and that is becoming less and less.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

Sounds great in theory, but in a practical way it just doesn't happen on a global front.

Globally, is not my experience to say.
America was known for being hard workers, generosity and God loving.
With much credit due to corrupt politicians, America sadly has moved to the forefront of lazy, stingy and hate.

 

[Wrangler]

Of course all three manifestations or roles
Are all 100% God and not human.

That goes against Scripture, which says Jesus is a man. Last I checked, man was human and not God. Supposing man is God is the original sin.


For he has set a Day when he will judge the inhabited world, and do it justly, by means of a man whom he has designated. And he has given public proof of it by resurrecting this man from the dead.”
Acts17:31 (CJB)

 

[Taken]

(What you do to the least of my followers)

I don't know or give much thought about your followers.

 

[Wrangler]

And I agree with @Wrangler
The Bible only says
*The Father, Son and Holy Spirit
(Not the "Trinity")

Saying 3 things together is no kind of proclamation of the trinity by other words. The 1C uses singular pronoun, which is no kind of 3. By contrast, many times Scripture explicitly says God is One alone and there is no other. Again, this is no kind of 3.

I, the Eternal One, am your God and there is no other.
Joel 2:2

*there are three that bear witness
(the water, the blood and the spirit
NOT "the Trinity")

Again, saying 3 things together does not make them God. 3 witnesses are not 1 witness.

God is not 3 when you want and 3 when you want. Revelations talks about the 7 Spirits of God. Does that make God 7 or 9? Neither. There is only one God, Jesus’ God. NOTE: Below does not state Jesus is part of the one true God. Nor does it say the Holy Spirit is part of the one true God. It states the Father is the one true God.

John 17:1,3
Complete Jewish Bible

Father ... And eternal life is this: to know you, the one true God, and him whom you sent, Yeshua the Messiah.

As for one giving up on communicating.
I thought as believers we should continue
Praying and resolving this in Christ.

Think again. The Fruit of the Spirit is Peace - not tolerating endless dissension. What does Scripture say about those who cause dissension?

Warn troublemakers once or twice. Then don’t have anything else to do with them.
Titus 3:10 (CEV)