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Robbie

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I've heard it was put together under Constantine's direction of the First Council of Nicea so that He could make christianity the official religion of Rome... but I've heard others say that's not true and it was put together by these people or that people.

If anyone can explain more to be about the Constantine idea.... whether your opinion of this is that it's true or false I'd appreciate hearing different opinions.

I personally have no real opinion because I don't know anything about it other than what I've heard other people say.
 

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I've heard it was put together under Constantine's direction of the First Council of Nicea so that He could make christianity the official religion of Rome... but I've heard others say that's not true and it was put together by these people or that people.

If anyone can explain more to be about the Constantine idea.... whether your opinion of this is that it's true or false I'd appreciate hearing different opinions.

I personally have no real opinion because I don't know anything about it other than what I've heard other people say.

Keep in mind there are seven churches making up the one church...

1. Ephesus - Apostolic - Scripture still before us!.
2. Smyrna - Martyr - 10 days = 10 general Roman persecutions. Started by Nero
3. Pergomos - Orthodox - Started by Constantine in 312 AD.
4. Thyatira - Catholic - Started by Charlemagne in 800 AD. The first pope was Nicholas I in 858 AD
5. Sardis - Protestant - John Calvin / Martin Luther
6. Philadelphia - John Wesley
7. Laodicea - Materialistic / Charistmatic / Independent

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=b7rTb4BJQsg

Constantine liberated Rome from paganism by defeating the Roman armies at the battle of Milivian bridge 11.28 312 AD.

http://en.wikipedia...._Milvian_Bridge

In the image of king Nebuchadnezzar we find two legs of iron. This is the divided kingdom that started with Constantine with one leg representing the eastern Roman empire and the other the west. The western Roman empire would eventually become the Catholic church headquartered in Rome while the eastern Roman empire would eventually become the Greek Orthodox church located at Constantinople. It is important to note that the Pergamean church age was an Orthodox age. It It would take another 500 years for the Catholic church age to begin.

Note that the Eastern Roman empire officially began in 306 AD, just a few years before Constantine's victory and would last over a 1,000 years until the Ottomans defeated Constantinople in 1453 AD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Roman_Empire
 

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Keep in mind there are seven churches making up the one church...

1. Ephesus - Apostolic - Scripture still before us!.
2. Smyrna - Martyr - 10 days = 10 general Roman persecutions. Started by Nero
3. Pergomos - Orthodox - Started by Constantine in 312 AD.
4. Thyatira - Catholic - Started by Charlemagne in 800 AD. The first pope was Nicholas I in 858 AD
5. Sardis - Protestant - John Calvin / Martin Luther
6. Philadelphia - John Wesley
7. Laodicea - Materialistic / Charistmatic / Independent
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You keep bringing this up but it is only one view of the seven Assemblies found in Revelation 2 & 3. I see the seven as near future.
 

rockytopva

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You keep bringing this up but it is only one view of the seven Assemblies found in Revelation 2 & 3. I see the seven as near future.

You can believe the church's however you want... It is not conditional to salvation. However I will note... What significance are these churches near future as everyone of these cities are either desolate or Islamic?

Ephesus in ruins... http://www.worldheritages.com/ephesus-ancient-site-in-turkey.html
Smyrna in ruins... http://www.greecetravel.com/smyrna/
Pergomos in ruins - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pergamon
Thyatira in ruins - http://www.allaboutarchaeology.org/ancient-thyatira-faq.htm
Sardis in ruins...http://joseph_berrigan.tripod.com/ancientbabylon/id25.html
Philadelphia in ruins... http://www.biblepicturegallery.com/pictures/philadelphia/philadelphia%20-%20remains%20of%20the%20ancient%20city%20walls%20pa.htm
Laodicea in ruins... http://www.sacred-destinations.com/turkey/laodicea.htm

Sorry! No churches here!
 

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You can believe the church's however you want... It is not conditional to salvation. However I will note... What significance are these churches near future as everyone of these cities are either desolate or Islamic?

...
Sorry! No churches here!


The seven Assemblies are not "over there." They are all Hebrew and they are not fully formed yet, but are close.