Covid-19 Vaccines: have you had a jab?

[Rita]

Yet, the murder of that person was both WRONG and ILLEGAL. And they chose to be a donor. The murder of babies is both WRONG and LEGAL. It IS condoning abortion.

That is your opinion, no where in my post did I say that it was right to have an abortion….I was offering a different prospective beyond that because I was asked for my thoughts.
Not in all cases, some people have not made the decision for themselves. I don’t plan on getting into this debate to much as everyone just attacks everyone else in the end.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Standing for truth and speaking it may hurt, but it is not an attack.

 

[TLHKAJ]

That is your opinion, no where in my post did I say that it was right to have an abortion….I was offering a different prospective beyond that because I was asked for my thoughts.
Not in all cases, some people have not made the decision for themselves. I don’t plan on getting into this debate to much as everyone just attacks everyone else in the end.

I know that not every country is the same ....but at least they say in the states, you are given a choice of whether you want to be an organ donor. When my son was in the children's hospital in September of 2019, all they cared about was telling me he was going to die that night and hounding me and my husband about donating his organs. It's big industry ....harvesting organs. I wouldn't put it past them to have done it anyway. They tried to kill him that night, and the following night with drug overdose. He walked out under his own strength and cognition 3 days later, much to their bewilderment. They finally succeeded in.taking his life 4 months later. He was 17.

 

[Josho]

I disagree, @Josho.
What if you're starving to death and someone offers you a baby to eat....good out of something bad?? It's the same thing.

I disagree, it's a completely different thing, that's cannabalism and has nothing to do with the vaccinations.

 

[TLHKAJ]

I disagree, it's a completely different thing, that's cannabalism and has nothing to do with the vaccinations.

I also disagree with you.
So, are you fine with the use of organs from aborted babies as well?

 

[Josho]

I also disagree with you.
So, are you fine with the use of organs from aborted babies as well?

What does this have to do with the vaccines?

The cells that were used to develop covid-19 vaccines, were grown in a lab.


And I am against abortions also.

 

[TLHKAJ]

What does this have to do with the vaccines?

The cells that were used to develop covid-19 vaccines, were grown in a lab.

... using cells originally from a murdered baby..... it's exactly the same thing... "good from evil" ....order out of chaos is the mantra of the elite cult, Babylonian (antichrist) system.

 

[Rita]

Standing for truth and speaking it may hurt, but it is not an attack.

I wasn’t talking about your post, I was talking about what usually happens on these threads. Truth is subjective to your viewpoint on the matter. As I have said I am pro life, but it doesn’t mean I have the same views about what happens beyond that……and I am not entirely sure what my solid views are yet on post abortion. I was just mulling it over and offered a different prospective as I was thinking it through. I am not hurt by your words at all.

 

[TLHKAJ]

 

[Josho]

... using cells originally from a murdered baby..... it's exactly the same thing... "good from evil" ....order out of chaos is the mantra of the elite cult, Babylonian (antichrist) system.

The babies were already dead, when they removed the original cells decades ago, what had been done was already done. What I believe is the original cells were pretty much copied very many times, that they are now making copies of copies, I don't think it's a sin to grow a human cell in a lab for purposes of developing vaccines.

However these weren't the original cells used in developing the covid-19 vaccines.

 

[Josho]

@farouk have you had the vaccine?

 

[TLHKAJ]

 

[TLHKAJ]

The babies were already dead, when they removed the original cells decades ago, what had been done was already done. What I believe is the original cells were pretty much copied very many times, that they are now making copies of copies, I don't think it's a sin to grow a human cell in a lab for purposes of developing vaccines.

However these weren't the original cells used in developing the covid-19 vaccines.

I find this very disturbing. This mentality just gives them license. If there were no market for baby parts and cells, no money in it ....they would have much less motivation to murder babies. But Christians are glossing over it. That is very disturbing.

 

[Brakelite]

I'm thinking about how legal, moral, and justified one would be receiving car parts from a stolen vehicle from 10 years ago.

 

[Rita]

I know that not every country is the same ....but at least they say in the states, you are given a choice of whether you want to be an organ donor. When my son was in the children's hospital in September of 2019, all they cared about was telling me he was going to die that night and hounding me and my husband about donating his organs. It's big industry ....harvesting organs. I wouldn't put it past them to have done it anyway. They tried to kill him that night, and the following night with drug overdose. He walked out under his own strength and cognition 3 days later, much to their bewilderment. They finally succeeded in.taking his life 4 months later. He was 17.

So sorry , that must have been awful xx
We have a new rule over here, if you don’t opt out of donor options then it’s declared that they are allowed to take them. Problem is not everyone even considers it when they are young, there views still may not be known.
I am not sure ‘ it’s big business over here’ one of the good things about us having the national health service….it’s not all about the money over here.
Rita

 

[amadeus]

Potato salad... Nectar of the...ummm... Gods.

Was it not God who gave my wife a gift when it comes to preparing a good meal?

 

[Truman]

I wonder if Rise Up Society has an opinion on this matter.
For that matter, I wonder Black Lives Matters has an opinion on Rise Up Society?

 

[Truman]

Was it not God who gave my wife a gift when it comes to preparing a good meal?

She sure did!

 

[amadeus]

I wonder if Rise Up Society has an opinion on this matter.
For that matter, I wonder Black Lives Matters has an opinion on Rise Up Society?

Everyone has an opinion... but then consider again the words penned here by Jeremiah:

"O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps" Jerem 10:23

And then Jesus speaks of the blind leaders. Do we have any today?

"Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch." Matt 15:14

 

[Truman]

Everyone has an opinion... but then consider again the words penned here by Jeremiah:

"O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps" Jerem 10:23

And then Jesus speaks of the blind leaders. Do we have any today?

"Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch." Matt 15:14

Rise Up Society is a wonderful organization based in Kenya that works tirelessly to remove chigoe fleas from the bodies of poor Africans. These little monsters were introduced to Africa by white slave traders. BLM should be furious about this situation!
But they're not.