Why do you feel it is so hard to be good?

[Brakelite]

I think you have it exactly Backwards——“ For with the Heart, man Believes and is Justified....”

I'm talking about how we are judged. Not how we are saved.

 

[Grailhunter]

God gives certain men the authority to make rabbinical judgments for the people of God...

"...select capable men from among the people—God-fearing, trustworthy men who are averse to dishonest gain. Appoint them over the people as leaders of thousands, of hundreds, of fifties, and of tens. Have these men judge the people at all times. Then they can bring you any major issue, but all minor cases they can judge on their own..." Exodus 18:21-22

Yea, but we are not Jews.
What did Christ call those that added to the Law....Vipers!

Here's another example of man made law created by those in the teaching and administrative gifts in this New Covenant:

"It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not cause trouble for the Gentiles who are turning to God. Instead, we should write and tell them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals, and from blood." Acts 15:19-20

This would be seriously incorrect.
The morals established in the New Testament are not an addition to anything.
They supersede all.

 

[Grailhunter]

Fulfill means to satisfy. Or to complete, as in, "I wanted to, then I did." The 'doing' being the completion of the outstanding requirement to do.

Stay on track, we are talking about fulfilling the Law. Even if it was something that you could do....you would only need to do it once. That is why Christ was only crucified once. The Law was fulfilled by Christ and it is done. The Mosaic Law does not apply to Christians. We do not keep fulfilling it. We cannot fulfil it and we do not have the authority to fulfill it even if we could.

 

[marks]

I'm saying you have to continue to believe as evidenced by not living in willful sin before you die.

You continue with this idea that you commit sins, but not wilfully? And that you don't continue to commit sins wilfully?

You must have a very limited view of your power to choose, and/or what constitutes sin.

Much love!

 

[Grailhunter]

I would say Christians do not know Christian morals. They focus on and know more about works of service/sacrifice than the obedience of godly character according to the fruit of the Spirit.

Hold that thought.

 

[Gospel Believer]

Exactly!
They were saved by the gospel Paul preached to them. He reminds them of that.

"I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, and in which you stand firm." 1 Corinthians 15:1​

Then he tells them they aren't saved and their faith is in vain if they believe in a gospel of an unrisen savior. The important take away here, BB....I mean, GB...is they were indeed saved (see above). But they aren't saved if they change the gospel Paul preached to them and by which they were saved and believe in it instead.

The audience that Paul was talking to we’re all Saved Believers....they had “ started out so well!” They were Saved and Secure because of their Faith in Paul’s Gospel ALONE.......Then, as we also see today, along came some outsiders that “ troubled them” .....They were preaching False, Perverted “ Gospels” That ADDED TO Paul’s simple “ Good News” about the Grace of God ( obtain Eternal Life and the Forgiveness Of Sins Simply by BELIEVING that Jesus died for your sins and rise from the Grave)

They were not denying the Resurrection.If one never believes that , he was never saved in the first place.......These Legalists were saying just like they do today—- “Why sure, Jesus Saves.....but once you know “ that” you gotta get circumsized!”......THAT was the Addition to the Gospel back then.....Paul said that if you bought into a false Addition to His Gospel , you were “ Severed from Christ” and “ fallen from Grace”—— that may or may not mean Damnation.....personally I think that type of person remains Saved, they just are doomed to a Walk Of Faith That is a woeful “Job” , bereft Of Any Assurance, Security or Joy.....a pale imitation of what it could have been.....

Yes, if you “ buy into” a false gospel of works ( today it is no longer circumcism , it is keeping the Commandments, Repenting Of all of your sins before you die, or committing sins on purpose and failing to repent of them, etc....) you will “ Be Severed”, But just Maybe you might remain Saved.... Fir the TEACHERS of such “ False and Perverted” so- called Gospels , there is no “ maybe” about it —— they are “ Accursed”.....a polite way to say they are Damned to Hell forever.....some guys in here need to be careful of what they teach! ( Gal1:8 )......

 

[Gospel Believer]

You continue with this idea that you commit sins, but not wilfully? And that you don't continue to commit sins wilfully?

You must have a very limited view of your power to choose, and/or what constitutes sin.

Much love!

Yeah, all this guys sins are “ Accidental”, aren't they? Lol.....does he think all of us out here are fools? We all know and ADMIT what it is like to be weak, Fallible Human beings.....even James said “ we ALL stumble!”......We ALL have “Secret thoughts that would Shame Hell”.....Some of us have the Self Insight to plainly know these things and some of us are Honest enough to admit it.......others do not see or admit their constant need of Grace.....Its much easier to stay in their “ Fools Paradise” Where the Deceiver strokes their Egos and has them thinking that they actually have something to offer God other than their Sins.....They are Proud of their “ Character ” .....they are “ above “ others.....pretending that they Never sin “ willfully” ......they HAVE to exist in this LIE, because they misunderstand Hebrews 10, and to admit what is obvious to all sane people on this planet, they think if they sin on purpose they will go to Hell.....with proper teaching , a Ten year old could see that this is NOT what Hebrews is Teaching....the “ stiff- Necked” are too proud to get proper teaching...they might have to admit that they were wrong.....and they are.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

or committing sins on purpose and failing to repent of them, etc....) you will “ Be Severed”

A.k.a., 'Unbelief'.
You can save yourself a lot of expensive computer ink if you just write 'unbelief', lol.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

committing sins on purpose and failing to repent of them, etc....) you will “ Be Severed”, But just Maybe you might remain Saved.

No, you won't remain saved.
John says habitual, unrepentant people are unbelievers. Unbelievers are not saved.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

The Law was fulfilled by Christ and it is done. The Mosaic Law does not apply to Christians. We do not keep fulfilling it.

The law 'love your neighbor as yourself' is a continuing debt of law that we Christians are to keep fulfilling:

"Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law." Romans 13:8

"...the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”" Galatians 5:14​

 

[marks]

No, you won't remain saved.

This would go back to the that predestination question . . .

Much love!

 

[Grailhunter]

The law 'love your neighbor as yourself' is a continuing debt of law that we Christians are to keep fulfilling:

They are not a fulfillment of the Law....Christ fulfilled the Law....one time and it done.
It is a summary and open to opinion, that is why there has to be specifics and examples. As a whole the love God and each other is an overview. How do you show your love of God? How do you show your love for one another? Stating the verses do not make them happen. It is up to you to make them happen. And that is the question.

 

[BarneyFife]

Stay on track, we are talking about fulfilling the Law. Even if it was something that you could do....you would only need to do it once. That is why Christ was only crucified once. The Law was fulfilled by Christ and it is done. The Mosaic Law does not apply to Christians. We do not keep fulfilling it. We cannot fulfil it and we do not have the authority to fulfill it even if we could.

"If you love me keep my commandments," Jesus said. How does fulfilling the law do away with it? Did Christ do away with righteousness when He was baptized?

Matthew 3:13 At that time Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptized by John.
Matthew 3:14 But John tried to prevent Him, saying, "I need to be baptized by You, and do You come to me?"
Matthew 3:15 "Let it be so now," Jesus replied. "It is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness in this way." Then John permitted Him.

 

[BarneyFife]

They were Saved and Secure because of their Faith in Paul’s Gospel ALONE.......

Funny; it used to be called the Gospel of Jesus Christ. :)

 

[post]

So, what are biblical sins?
Do you know, or do you want to talk about it?

Falling short of His glory, for example ((Romans 3:23))

Not all sin is transgression of the law, as surely you know, from Romans 5:13, and goodness is far more than withholding ones self from committing transgression.

 

[BarneyFife]

The law 'love your neighbor as yourself' is a continuing debt of law that we Christians are to keep fulfilling:

"Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law." Romans 13:8

"...the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”" Galatians 5:14​

And "others" and "your neighbor" would include God, right? :)

 

[post]

There is a lot more to the morality of the New Testament than this.

Aye, there is faith and hope in addition to love, which is the greatest of these

 

[Grailhunter]

"If you love me keep my commandments," Jesus said. How does fulfilling the law do away with it? Did Christ do away with righteousness when He was baptized?

Matthew 3:13 At that time Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptized by John.
Matthew 3:14 But John tried to prevent Him, saying, "I need to be baptized by You, and do You come to me?"
Matthew 3:15 "Let it be so now," Jesus replied. "It is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness in this way." Then John permitted Him.

Neither Christ, nor I or Apostles said the LAW "was do away with" Still there for the Jews. Still there, but they do not apply to Christians. If you knew more about the Mosaic Law, you would know this.

 

[Grailhunter]

Not all sin is transgression of the law,

We have no Law to transgress.

 

[Gospel Believer]

And, yet, he will judge each of us according to what we have done.
Saving faith is measured by what it does, not by what it says. That's why each of us has to know if we have real faith and are ready to meet Jesus when he comes back. We know that by how we live. That's why we are told to make our calling and election sure by doing things. If you find you can't live a righteous life then you know that you are not saved and are not ready to meet Jesus when he comes back. The Bible tells us this for our sake.

Sounds great, doesn’t it? Unfortunately it is Unbiblical......

God’s Word * TELLS* us what we will be Judged by! Paul said it ! We are ALL going to be JUDGED BY * HIS GOSPEL * ( Romans 2:16).....

NOBODY can live a “ Righteous Life”..... if they did it would mean that “ Christ died in Vain” .....the ONLY way to be “Righteous” is to have Christ’s Righteousness IMPUTED to you! You get this by simply BELIEVING the Gospel .....we indeed are to “examine” ourselves from time to time.....NOT to see if we are “ Worthy” or not—— NOT to see if we are “ righteous” or not......but to see if we are “ in the FAITH”.......

The proper examination is to look inside yourself and know that you have God’s Indwelling Spirit.....do you Believe that Jesus was “ God in the Flesh—- God’s Anointed Son and YOUR Savior” ....If you Believe that you are His Child—— Saved, Sealed and Secure Forever .......Failure to Believe that Truth proves that you are “ NONE of His” .......

Now explain how believing in vain changes it so that you do not have to hold firmly to the word to be saved. As you can see, it doesn't. You have to hold firmly to the gospel you heard in order to be saved. John says the same thing in 1 John 2:24. The condition for Christ and the Father to remain in you is that you remain in them in faith.

You being more in line with Calvinist thought on this matter should explain to BB...I mean, GB...that a person can not depart from believing in the gospel and still be saved. I know you agree with that. You just believe that a person can not stop believing and will, therefore, always remain in Christ.