Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

[farouk]

What an erudite reply. What translation does not identify God, in his unitarian nature, as the giver in John 3:16?

Read the previous one.

We are not communicating adequately; and I suspect will not be able to do so from Scripture.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

i have found that the one's who are first to mock and name call are, in fact, the cultists and those who do not like to accept Scripture, His Son and the Holy Spirit as the means which God has chosen for ALL People to know Him by.

mocking and name calling ???
i just check my previous posts and you are barking up the wrong Tree

*sigh* If the only thing you want to do is call folks "cultist" or "demon" and mock, then that's your choice.

David, if you ever want to talk about Christ and beliefs, let me know.

 

[Wrangler]

Again:

Discussing beliefs is a good thing. Such should be done with charity and being accurate.

Things like mocking, strawman arguments, and name calling are not Christ-like behaviors and don't bring anyone closer to Him.

Agreed.

Then actually talk to people about what they believe and (most importantly) talk to them about their relationship with Christ.

Skip the mocking and name calling.

I did not know who you were referring to because I put David in NJ on ignore a long time ago. Because of your post, I showed the ignored content and found this edifying question worth exploring.

What is a "unitarian nature."

I'm glad you asked. The context of this comes up when trinitarians assert the idea that because Scripture sometimes says "God, the Father" that implies other gods of the trinity. To combat that false interpretation, whenever God is NOT explicitly connected to "the Father" in a given verse, I add for emphasis, 'in his unitarian nature.' There are over 10,000 such verses in Scripture.

This is most powerfully understood whenever Jesus is in the same sentence, destroying any rational association with Jesus being God. God, in his unitarian nature, glorified Jesus. In the same verse it is clear that Jesus is but a servant. Who does Jesus serve? Jesus served God, in his unitarian nature.

This is how we use language. When we refer to the First Couple, we mean, both, the President and his wife. However, whenever we refer to a being, say David in NJ, that refers to the unity of that being. Or David in NJ, in his unitarian nature - even though you may be a Father, Son and Holy Husband. Hope this helps.


We didn’t do this—God did! The God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob—the God of our ancestors has glorified Jesus,

God’s servant—the same Jesus whom you betrayed and rejected in front of Pilate, even though Pilate was going to release Him.
Acts 3:13 (Voice)

 

[MatthewG]

It's a good subject study

This is about an hour presenting the subject. I used a program called Esword to compile everything.

You can actually read the work here if you are interested: Pastebin has been around for a long time. Today have my computer with me and it makes communication so much better than a phone so I uploaded my work here if you are interested.

Free of Charge

Who is the Word of Life, who is the Word of God, who is Jesus Christ? - Pastebin.com 143 Lines of Text.

This was the second Revision of the first shared one: which has a line of 145 Text: Revision 2: Who is the Word of Life, who is the Word of God, who is Jesus Christ? - Pastebin.com - It is the one I used in the video.

 

[David in NJ]

Agreed.



I did not know who you were referring to because I put David in NJ on ignore a long time ago. Because of your post, I showed the ignored content and found this edifying question worth exploring.



I'm glad you asked. The context of this comes up when trinitarians assert the idea that because Scripture sometimes says "God, the Father" that implies other gods of the trinity. To combat that false interpretation, whenever God is NOT explicitly connected to "the Father" in a given verse, I add for emphasis, 'in his unitarian nature.' There are over 10,000 such verses in Scripture.

This is most powerfully understood whenever Jesus is in the same sentence, destroying any rational association with Jesus being God. God, in his unitarian nature, glorified Jesus. In the same verse it is clear that Jesus is but a servant. Who does Jesus serve? Jesus served God, in his unitarian nature.

This is how we use language. When we refer to the First Couple, we mean, both, the President and his wife. However, whenever we refer to a being, say David in NJ, that refers to the unity of that being. Or David in NJ, in his unitarian nature - even though you may be a Father, Son and Holy Husband. Hope this helps.


We didn’t do this—God did! The God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob—the God of our ancestors has glorified Jesus,

God’s servant—the same Jesus whom you betrayed and rejected in front of Pilate, even though Pilate was going to release Him.
Acts 3:13 (Voice)

The scriptures you pick do not reveal all of who the LORD Jesus IS but of who HE became when HE took on human form.

So you cherry pick scripture verses to form a belief that is directly opposed(antichrist) to the Truth of Scripture.

The Apostle John rebukes your error as does the Lord Jesus Himself .

You placed me on ignore because you are unable to accept the clear Scripture of the Eternal Majesty of Elohim Father Elohim Son Elohim Holy Spirit.

The logic you attempt to use for validation of your belief system is often flawed by carnal intellect and has also been proven to undermine your position as well.

But i get a good Holy Spirit laugh for on each of your posts you quote Deuteronomy (the Shema) "hear oh Israel".

The LORD Himself quoted the Shema of Himself to the Jews and they wanted to stone Him because HE made Himself equal with God.

You like to proclaim that you stand with the monotheistic Jews and in fact you do and it is your undoing as it was theirs.

For indeed God is One -Just as the LORD testified of Himself and His Father and the Holy Spirit throughout the Gospel of John and throughout Scripture beginning with Genesis.

Your blindness comes from a heart of unbelief in Scripture ITSELF.

The heart is deceitful above all things,
And desperately wicked;
Who can know it?
I, the Lord, search the heart,
I test the mind,
Even to give every man according to his ways,
According to the fruit of his doings.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Billy to Bible study teacher: Why did God have to send himself down to earth to become his own son to sacrifice himself just to convince himself to forgive us?

I've always believed that it was the Only Begotten Son that became human and was sent to mankind by God. I believe because of what happened in the garden of Eden, the humans Adam and Eve sinning as they did, and because their offspring inherited sin, there was no human who was of their offspring that could save mankind, which means God had to send someone who was not of Adam and Eve offspring who didn't inherit sin and could remain sinless up to death and become that perfect sacrifice for mankind that was needed, a sacrifice that was without spot or blemish. One who could fulfill the law covenant because none of Adam and Eve's offspring could fulfill the law covenant.

 

[ScottA]

Not at all sir, the comic strip was designed to show the error of the trinity doctrine. It was a family circus comic that I copied. I tried to find the link but was unable to, sorry.

I was not referring to any comic strip, but rather to your assertion that the word of God has been controlled by men, thus poorly translated. My point is:

Men, are not and have never been, in control of God's word. He alone is in control.​

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Done many times. You just don't have eyes to see or ears to hear. Jesus's God is the only God. The one who send Jesus to Earth is the only God. Scripture is explicit on this point 1,000's of times and in every Epistle.

This statement is a gross untruth! You have not once Identified the following:

John 1
King James Version

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

You said this is not Jesus, but have refused to identify who it is!

John 1:4-5
King James Version

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

YOu have said this is not Jesus, yet refuse to identify who it is! Stop lying about this. either you know or don't. If you know tell us.

Done repeatedly. You just deny it. This word is a WHAT not a WHO. Words are an attribute of the Being who says it, not spawning of another Being.

Verse 2 "He" is the same Greek word translated in John 6:60 "this" as in, '“This is very hard to understand.' It is not "he is very hard to understand." But this word, this teaching is hard to understand.

So do you believe that jesus was an attribute of god and then in verse 14 became flesh?

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Or is this another Word?????????????

and while you correctly identify "the same" it refers back to the word and verse 3 identifies "the Word" and "the same" as a He, so it is a person! so who is this word and who is the light?

 

[ScottA]

“it’s like this and like that and like this?”
i mean we are warned about scribes, right

Absolutely. But not if they agree with scripture, but rather if they do not.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

The Most important Commandment “Listen, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD alone.
Deuteronomy 6:4

this is a terrible reinterpretation and mistranslation of the sh'ma!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Done many times. You just don't have eyes to see or ears to hear. Jesus's God is the only God. The one who send Jesus to Earth is the only God. Scripture is explicit on this point 1,000's of times and in every Epistle.

But the Word is god so you believe Gods Words are God as well?

 

[David in NJ]

*sigh* If the only thing you want to do is call folks "cultist" or "demon" and mock, then that's your choice.

David, if you ever want to talk about Christ and beliefs, let me know.

lol - 3x you falsely accuse me and you want to talk about Christ - lol


The Holy Spirit that was given to me by my Lord and Savior needs not the affirmation of man.
HE does a Great Work at revealing Truth from the Word to me.
Make sure you have Him - Matthew 25:1-13

 

[Jane_Doe22]

lol - 3x you falsely accuse me and you want to talk about Christ - lol


The Holy Spirit that was given to me by my Lord and Savior needs not the affirmation of man.
HE does a Great Work at revealing Truth from the Word to me.
Make sure you have Him - Matthew 25:1-13

Christ is the center of my world. If you would like to hear about that & listen, let me know. But I'm not interested in being mocked.

 

[amadeus]

It doesn't matter what I believe. But, no, I do not believe it, I know it, for it is written.

Having said that, all men are not One with God. But those who are, are his body, and as such, are One with him. The problem here only exists when men think as men think.

Good to see you here and posting some old friend:

Our own thinking will certainly get us into deep trouble at times. The good thing is that God recognizes the problems found in our thinking. We do need to have our minds become like the mind of Christ.

"Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." John 17:20-21

 

[David in NJ]

Christ is the center of my world. If you would like to hear about that & listen, let me know. But I'm not interested in being mocked.

GREAT - Christ is my Lord and my Redeemer and what you are doing now is mocking - go figure.

Since Christ is the center of your life - do not falsely accuse - He never did.

 

[amadeus]

ya, eating the fruit of knowledge sure makes one wise eh

Lots of eating from that kind of fruit, hereabouts, it seems. Access to the other tree, the Tree of Life, was cut off, but did not Jesus reopen the Way? The problem methinks seem to be that people having attitudes similar to Adam and Eve as they considered the tree you mentioned and have decided that entrance is a foregone conclusion: Just come as you are!

"And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." Matt 22:11-13

What are they... and how does one then obtain one of these wedding garments? Without them will one be cut or burned severely... even unto death?

"Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:" Eph 6:11-17

 

[Jane_Doe22]

GREAT - Christ is my Lord and my Redeemer and what you are doing now is mocking - go figure.

Since Christ is the center of your life - do not falsely accuse - He never did.

I was not the one referring to others as "cultist" or "demons" etc.
Have a nice day.

 

[Wrangler]

This statement is a gross untruth!

You do like to do laps. For us, there is one God, the Father. Can’t be more explicit. What’s the word the word

 

[David in NJ]

I was not the one referring to others as "cultist" or "demons" etc.
Have a nice day.

No, we are not going to play this game - you now must come forward

#1. i never spoke to you on this thread (perhaps never spoke to you at all?)
#2. you falsely accuse me and i went back and checked my posts here(back to Friday evening)
#3. make the Lord Jesus Christ the center here and not your accusations

The LORD said that many false christs, false teachers and false prophets would deceive many.
There is only one source of Truth and that comes from God thru Christ and the Holy Spirit
This Truth is found in Scripture.
God does not cozy up with doctrines of demons.

Everybody is welcome to the Truth = The Word = Gospel of John

But everyone must follow the same instructions: Deuteronomy 4:1-2 , Proverbs 30:5-6 , Revelation 22:18-19

Correcting/rebuking heresies is an integral part of the Faith and Walk with Christ and His Holy Spirit, who constantly did battle with false doctrines/teachings and the spirit of error, which is the spirit of antichrist.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

No, we are not going to play this game - you now must come forward

#1. i never spoke to you on this thread (perhaps never spoke to you at all?)
#2. you falsely accuse me and i went back and checked my posts here(back to Friday evening)
#3. make the Lord Jesus Christ the center here and not your accusations

The LORD said that many false christs, false teachers and false prophets would deceive many.
There is only one source of Truth and that comes from God thru Christ and the Holy Spirit
This Truth is found in Scripture.
God does not cozy up with doctrines of demons.

Everybody is welcome to the Truth = The Word = Gospel of John

But everyone must follow the same instructions: Deuteronomy 4:1-2 , Proverbs 30:5-6 , Revelation 22:18-19

Correcting/rebuking heresies is an integral part of the Faith and Walk with Christ and His Holy Spirit, who constantly did battle with false doctrines/teachings and the spirit of error, which is the spirit of antichrist.

Have you discussed beliefs or Christ with me, a “Mormon”? No you just mock. It doesn’t bring anyone closer to Christ.